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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
3196
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:00:00 -
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The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
168
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:03:00 -
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+1 Well, said.
Let the cooler heads prevail, and we might see Legion on both PC and PS4. If we continue to rage, we might not see it at all... |

Beld Errmon
1633
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:03:00 -
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now now, don't go throwing words like reason around, you might hurt someone, besides this tantrum is absolutely the most amusing group behaviour I've ever observed, well besides ppl chasing a wheel of cheese down a hill.
Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
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Onesimus Tarsus
703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1971
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:05:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks?
You know, he's got a point...
Naaah.
Rage on!
Battlefield 1943. Running since 2009. I'm diskinetic, BTW.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
12
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:05:00 -
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bump-aroonie
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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DARK - IMPULSE
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:06:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks?
CUTE, but no. The patience and calmness are over. Chaos and toxicity are reasonable because this is game is DEAD. |

Isaa Quade
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
337
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:07:00 -
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when CCP wants to stop being nuts and listen to reason, we will too.
My reaction to Legion
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
3196
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:07:00 -
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And I'd just like to add, this is a great community. I enjoy playing with you jerks, and the jerks from my corp. both you and then helped me get though a really bad patch in my life.
Hell, I made some friends through dust. Something I've never done in a video game before.
QuickGloves is not a well liked guy, and a lot if us still sent our support and tried to help where we could.
I'm not the most well liked/knowed guy, and I'm am not the best player(understatement) but I still feel like I'm a member of a real community. We aren't EVE, we are Dust.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
365
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:11:00 -
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Your list is incomplete. I'm a Dust player who never played an FPS with dual-analog setup before, because it's completely deluded to play an FPS like that. I still did because of the vision. I have no issue with a PC version, as long as it won't have ******** system requirements like Planetside 2. And, knowing CCP, it totally will. Note that my PC can run Crysis decently at medium to high settings, while Planetside completely fucks itself over.
The issue here is not the PC version. It's what the **** they did to the community: - Make a keynote that essentially consists of "**** you" after hyping up that **** and claiming that all Dust players should be eager to see the keynote - Selling multiple batches of Omega boosters in the time preceeding fanfest - Giving no information whatsoever about Dust's future. Legion is obviously not ready to go, but it's also obvious that they aren't planning on doing anymore significant patching for Dust. "We will still support it" my ass. That's obviously just a phrase to calm the community down.
I LIKE what they've shown of Legion. But I won't ever be touching a CCP title again. **** you. |

CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1742
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:12:00 -
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F YOU!!!
CEO
Whiskey squad leader, E9
Once Bitten Twice Shy....
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Hecarim Van Hohen
1303
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:14:00 -
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DARK - IMPULSE wrote:CUTE, but no. The patience and calmness are over. Chaos and toxicity are reasonable because this is game is DEAD. So you keep on doing what this community has been doing for 2 years? 
I do agree with the OP, we've been here for 2 years, we won't even notice 2 weeks
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
-CCP Logibro
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DUST Fiend
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
13844
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:15:00 -
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For once I'm actually finally excited for the future of "DUST"
It's been a long time since I've had a sense of hope in terms of "this" game, but they've done it.
What they really need to work on is their **** poor communication, their over eagerness to keep things quiet to push sales, and their lack of commitment ALREADY to this new project. CCP needs to dive head first into Legion.
DUST is DEAD
Long live Legion
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1537
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:16:00 -
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If there was an indication that they wanted to interact, perhaps people would be calmer. We haven't seen that yet, the thread started by Rogue is left unanswered.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
231
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:16:00 -
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under my leadership and guidance people like the TC would be removed, forever
Former MAG player, unfortunate dust victim, out of work, will kill for food.
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trollsroyce
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
692
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:17:00 -
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I'm personally very happy with the decision.
I invested somewhat into Dust, along the lines of some 500 bucks. The only game that has cost me comparably was EVE, and I thought I'll contribute as much as I can to make this the game I want along EVE.
Even if all of that was taken behind the barn and shot to make way for Legion, I'd be happy. I'd be happy that CCP gets another chance and a fresh start to make this game work. A complete re-branding is needed to dump the name of Dust that carries a dooming sound of failure. Dust needs to be forgotten in order for future potential players to take a look at Legion past the horrible critique of past launch.
While sounding overly negative, I personally loved Dust for what it had potential for. Chromosome was one of the best games I had played, with all the anticipation of the launch build. Uprising killed it all in one fell swoop. Reverting back to the Chromosome stage on PC allows for another chance at doing Uprising 2.0, and this time CCP might get it completely right and ressurrect the game.
Ressurrection won't work on failed games if the name carries a taint of failure, though, and for CCP to go "Legion" instead of "Dust 514 II" is a convincingly good call. CCP has full grasp of the reality, and the reset looks much more beliveable with the name change. I just might throw cash at it again... if not for anything else, just for the fits of tantrum if it fails. |

Virojakal
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:18:00 -
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I say we riot so that future crooks understand that this behavior will not be tolerated of them. I say we put a reverent fear into game developers so deep, that when one of them even thinks of screwing the gaming community over that he/she/they are shunned by their own brethren.
A lot of these so called game developers have no respect for the consumer. You will have a handful or more of devs that do. In the end their boss's are only concerned with what raises the bottom line out of the red. It's a crap rolls down hill policy. The underlings fear the wrath of the overlord watchers, and in turn develop crap content for a quickly produced under scrutinized copy of the last version of the latest gimmick ( xbox, sony, call of duty,battlefield 3-4, legion, justin bieber, etc, etc).
This Dust / Legion scam is just the remix of an old snatch n grab routine. I feel like a magician just told me how his trick was done. |

Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
75
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:19:00 -
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I am a pc player who bought a ps3 for Dust, I am extatic about Legion, but sad about CCP being arrogant dicks and ******* fanfest up for alot of people. CCP are like idiot savants sometimes and CCP Rouge obviously comes from a more toxic corporate culture, he must learn or leave. |

trollsroyce
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
693
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:For once I'm actually finally excited for the future of "DUST"
It's been a long time since I've had a sense of hope in terms of "this" game, but they've done it.
What they really need to work on is their **** poor communication, their over eagerness to keep things quiet to push sales, and their lack of commitment ALREADY to this new project. CCP needs to dive head first into Legion.
In a sense, headshotting the PS3 community through lack of communication, along the name of Dust 514 is "thoroughly composed" and one of the best bits about this reset. BURN IT UNTIL IT DIES |

Lanius Pulvis
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
241
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:25:00 -
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To an extent I agree, but the past has shown that raging gets their attention. I think our only real option is to have reasoned discussions alongside the vitriol.
I for one am anticipating that the backlash will cause CCp to accelerate any development of a PA version of Legion. If they do that and keep it For I would probably go back to buying boosters. Sadly I think it is obvious that DUST support will only continue til Legion launch, so we need to make the most of this window of opportunity to have input on Legion.
If you think about it, Sony should be interested in cajoling them into a PA version as well. Then everyone would need a PS+ membership as well as the cut they get from AUR sales.
Not new, just new to you.
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
154
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:26:00 -
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Be honest, how long does the PS3 have left anyway?
The Seventh Generation of Games consoles has been going on for, what, 8 years?
We're already 2 years into Gen 8.
The truth is: Knowing that I may soon die for real, I find that, for the first time in... Years? I'm Scared...
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
699
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:26:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks? Uhm, not let us get knocked down?
We've been replaced. You have all the right to kick scream and rage, you were just lied too and back stabbed. And there is NO HOPE FOR RECOVERY.
Be upset people, let CCP know this bullshit is ENOUGH. |

Stile451
Red Star. EoN.
331
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:36:00 -
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Dust isn't dead by any means. We have at least 2 more years of play out of it. I haven't seen any reports - other than unsubstantiated kneejerk reactions here on the forums - saying Dust isn't going to be updated(the only thing I've seen confirmed is that there will be no drone PvE in Dust).
Legion is an alpha with fairly obvious optinization issues and probably only one map thus far(you can remove detail from a map fairly easily, adding it takes a lot of time).
That being said I would have liked Dust514 and Legion presentations separated. |

tribal wyvern
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
993
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:42:00 -
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What grinds MY gears is the fact we've DEFENDED this garbage since closed beta! All the nay sayers joining dust and tearing it down, to which we all replied 'give it time, it will get better ITS IN BETA'. Then the PC players demanding that ccp abandon dust on ps3 and move to PC, to which we all replied 'dust will NEVER go to PC! You pc players have eve...we console players have dust, get used to it'
Now who looks like the fools? |

trollsroyce
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
695
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:44:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:To an extent I agree, but the past has shown that raging gets their attention. I think our only real option is to have reasoned discussions alongside the vitriol.
I for one am anticipating that the backlash will cause CCp to accelerate any development of a PS4 version of Legion. If they do that and keep it For I would probably go back to buying boosters. Sadly I think it is obvious that DUST support will only continue til Legion launch, so we need to make the most of this window of opportunity to have input on Legion.
If you think about it, Sony should be interested in cajoling them into a PS4 version as well. Then everyone would need a PS+ membership as well as the cut they get from AUR sales.
The PC port with a rebranding to get rid of the Dust514 name looks very much like a "phoenix" contigency to me. PS3 didn't work out but CCP has a launched game. CCP burns the PS3 version down, saving as much cash as possible during the twilight season, and then goes all in on providing a full trio of New Eden games on PC:
EVE Legion Valkyrie
This is an all-in call to make a sustainable sandbox universe, as EVE is inevitably going to suffer from player retention issues any aging game suffers. The gambit is to make the three games ultimately support each other and to get everything possible out of the link, to keep it running. PLEX is probably going to be an universal asset, or rather AURUM. Invest in CCP games, buy CCP AURUM, play in the CCP environment which is New Eden. Sony, for reference, is doing the same with SOE accounts and multipass (leeloo voice). |

Virojakal
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:46:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:And I'd just like to add, this is a great community. I enjoy playing with you jerks, and the jerks from my corp. both you and then helped me get though a really bad patch in my life.
Hell, I made some friends through dust. Something I've never done in a video game before.
QuickGloves is not a well liked guy, and a lot if us still sent our support and tried to help where we could.
I'm not the most well liked/knowed guy, and I'm am not the best player(understatement) but I still feel like I'm a member of a real community. We aren't EVE, we are Dust.
This community you speak of, ....... most of it came from MAG. MAG was a great game with great potential. Sony shutdown operations on MAG which resulted int he end of the game. Dust is going through a similar transition, so this community has felt this pain already. Quickgloves, and a ton of people can tell you exactly who I am because I have been playing with this community since 2005. In that time this "community" has suffered the loss of many great games such as Dust, and MAG. If you understood the various issues that have plagued these gamers you may see your stance on the anti raise hell a bit differently.
I see a request for a release of our funds via class action law suit coming. Even shot down I see a challenge coming from somewhere. You do not develop a large fan base without coming across a couple lawyers , or investigators of some sorts. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned I heard quoted once, or twice. CCP understood there would be blow back, and at some point a convo took place about said blowback. The result of that convo was just revealed, and the impression implied was that they do not give a damn how we feel about it. |

Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
559
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:48:00 -
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Dude I earned the right to rage
STFU
War never changes
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14637
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:51:00 -
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May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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The Noob Destroyer
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
516
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:51:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks? What did you expect would happen after my main got biomassed?
The Real GJR
Don't try to be a great man, just be a man and let history make its own judgement.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1319
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
I thought that was the heart of Dust, PvP...
Nos Nothi for Life
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
700
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:57:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks? If you weren't so good at killing then I might just listen to you ... but , you do have a point .
You are a awesome scout though .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
710
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
How about you and those legion faggots go find a hole and get barried by a couple pounds of Dust?
Why the **** are you asking us to calm down after hearing all of our hopes and dreams were just destroyed.
How about you do your ******* job and try to calm the situation down instead of telling people what they ******* can or cannot do or should or should not do, because, coming from a CPM who ******* back stabbed us - it sounds more like we're on the right path and should GET ******* LOUDER. |

Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14637
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:00:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
How about you and those legion faggots go find a hole and get barried by a couple pounds of Dust? Why the **** are you asking us to calm down after hearing all of our hopes and dreams were just destroyed. How about you do your ******* job and try to calm the situation down instead of telling people what they ******* can or cannot do or should or should not do, because, coming from a CPM who ******* back stabbed us - it sounds more like we're on the right path and should GET ******* LOUDER.
By yelling at other community members when that energy can be better spent aimed at ccp and the devs?
hmmm...
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Ducttape Tinker
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:00:00 -
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Honest message to CCP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAYkH-ESXW8
"Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
701
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
But it's alright for them to talk about how the PS3 is a failed platform but they still play on that same platform .
It's alright how they keep talking down to console gamers and throwing the fact that legion is going to PC and dust is being abandoned but that's alright though seeing as how you are right along with them and your trolling threads .
You and them are in the same boat and fanning the flames so you can't expect others to do what you yourself are not willing to do .
rouge is stunned, are you serious ????
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Ducttape Tinker
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:09:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
But it's alright for them to talk about how the PS3 is a failed platform but they still play on that same platform . It's alright how they keep talking down to console gamers and throwing the fact that legion is going to PC and dust is being abandoned but that's alright though seeing as how you are right along with them and your trolling threads . You and them are in the same boat and fanning the flames so you can't expect others to do what you yourself are not willing to do . rouge is stunned, are you serious ????
Stunned is not enought, i want feel his fear, his wet eyes, i want his fast beating heard sound and his gaps for air. What CCP did is disgracefull move and we should show them what we are. WE ARE THE COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE AND NEVER FORGET!!
"Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1523
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
Is he really stunned? He had to know we are dissatisfied with the game in its current state. Did he really think a damndest of announcing that what we have begged for is going only to PC while we get left with this crappy lobby shooter was going to go over well? He thought a year and a half of buying packs for BPO great and aurum and boosters all fire naught wouldn't have people upset? He's am idiot if he is stunned
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
288
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:11:00 -
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I have PC more than capable enough to run legion. The problem is the complete lack of information regarding Dust514. You know, the entire reason most of us were watch the stream in the first place. Yet CCP continues to harp on about legion & 'the mercenary eve experience'. While unable to give any solid info on Dust except for what we're not getting. |

Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14640
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:11:00 -
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Ducttape Tinker wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
But it's alright for them to talk about how the PS3 is a failed platform but they still play on that same platform . It's alright how they keep talking down to console gamers and throwing the fact that legion is going to PC and dust is being abandoned but that's alright though seeing as how you are right along with them and your trolling threads . You and them are in the same boat and fanning the flames so you can't expect others to do what you yourself are not willing to do . rouge is stunned, are you serious ???? Stunned is not enought, i want feel his fear, his wet eyes, i want his fast beating heard sound and his gaps for air. What CCP did is disgracefull move and we should show them what we are. WE ARE THE COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE AND NEVER FORGET!!
Did you not watch the CCP Presents part?
Also stunned part is an exaggeration; he expected the rage and a bit of it just not to the level that nearly matched cpm prophetcies.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1321
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:12:00 -
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LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Noob Destroyer
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
540
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:13:00 -
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WE ARE THE COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE AND NEVER FORGET!! I have spoken!
The Real GJR
Don't try to be a great man, just be a man and let history make its own judgement.
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
1034
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:13:00 -
[41] - Quote
Cody Sietz wrote:The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks? NEEDS MOAR RAGE |

Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
721
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:13:00 -
[42] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
How about you and those legion faggots go find a hole and get barried by a couple pounds of Dust? Why the **** are you asking us to calm down after hearing all of our hopes and dreams were just destroyed. How about you do your ******* job and try to calm the situation down instead of telling people what they ******* can or cannot do or should or should not do, because, coming from a CPM who ******* back stabbed us - it sounds more like we're on the right path and should GET ******* LOUDER. By yelling at other community members when that energy can be better spent aimed at ccp and the devs? hmmm... Yes, that has done WONDERS FOR US SO FAR.
UPRISING taught CCP NOTHING, sure as **** TAUGHT YOU NOTHING.
Take your condescending attitude and go shove it. There is nothing that can be said here to change the FACT WE ARE A GAME WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE.
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KOBOL81
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:17:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The environment is becoming toxic and we aren't listing to reason.
Yes, we all feel betrayed and they presented this in the worst way possible. The only people who are happy are PC players who never played dust or PC players who bought a ps3 just for now. The rest of us are kind of left in the muck. We console players may or may not see a Legion ps4 release and it's upsetting, I for one have done my share of boo-hooing and raging.
We can't let this knock us down, we need to come calm down and talk with the respective DEVs and other CCP members instead of just jumping from conclusion to conclusion and acting like animals.
Frankly, I'm not a PC gamer and probably never will be, I'm just as upset by all this as you guys are. But making this a vicious and toxic environment, where no DEV would set foot is the worst thing we can do at this point.
Let's wait, then judge. We've given the game 2 years, what's 2 weeks?
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Ducttape Tinker
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:18:00 -
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The Noob Destroyer wrote:WE ARE THE COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE AND NEVER FORGET!! I have spoken!
Let them all know this. Let them all know how ccp treat their community. Let them all know how they outsourced dust514 for dust2.0. Let them all know how they took our ideas, stole them and implement them in dust2.0. Let them all know how they treat our community and how they thing about gamer globaly. Let them all know how they broke every promises what were given to us and all that was just lies.
LET THEM ALL KNOW HOW THEY NAMED DUST2.0 LIKE LEGION JUST FOR LEGAL REASONS, BOTH GAME ARE SAME PC CONVERSION IS JUST POLISHED!! THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, DONT LET CCP BSHATES YOU BY THEIR LIES AND MISSLEADS!!
THEY USED US, THEY USED OUR MONEY, OUR IDEAS FOR PROJECT WHAT IS BASICALY COPY OF SONY DUST514,THEY SHOULD PAY EVERYTHING FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PS3 COMMUNITY!!
"Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
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Karl Koekwaus
216
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:22:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
But it's alright for them to talk about how the PS3 is a failed platform but they still play on that same platform . It's alright how they keep talking down to console gamers and throwing the fact that legion is going to PC and dust is being abandoned but that's alright though seeing as how you are right along with them and your trolling threads . You and them are in the same boat and fanning the flames so you can't expect others to do what you yourself are not willing to do . rouge is stunned, are you serious ????
The PS3 is not a fail platform, it has some of the best last gen games, but it was clear from the beginning it wasn't the right platform for Dust to be on. CCP tried and it obviously didn't work as expected.
CCP also just stated they will continue to maintain Dust and still try to do what they can.
If you can't see the positives of a switch to a more powerful and freeform platform to release on, you're not being sincere and/or only want mediocrity.
CCP Rouge should be stunned, because it was a craptastic way to announce the game. But it is still the only way to get to the experience that Dust deserves to be.
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Ayrie Coronach
DUST University Ivy League
162
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:23:00 -
[46] - Quote
Ayrie Coronach wrote:CCP Rouge wrote: 4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?
Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.
Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.
CCP Rouge
Here's my feedback: Legion looks very nice. I am sure the people that play Legion ( "if" it sees release) will be very impressed with it. Now here's my question to you, CCP Rouge and the rest of you at CCP. Tell me: why would I want to play Legion?After your gross mishandling of DUST 514 in general, and this Legion reveal debacle particularly, why would I want to have anything to do with CCP or its games in future? What guarantee do I have that in, let's say three years time, I won't be hearing about how "laser focused" you are on Legion's development? What guarantee do I have that after its release, all the cool features and ideas the Legion devs are telling me is in the pipe and on its way won't be co-opted by your next game, never to see release in Legion? What guarantee do I have that Legion won't be bound and gagged, have its legs silently cut from under it and then left to bleed out slowly, while the money and time and feedback I THOUGHT I spent fueling Legion's growth and evolution are surreptitiously used to fund development of CCP's next pet project; Legion 514: Return of the Dust Valkyries? Well? Tell me.
This is an excerpt from my post in the "Answering your DUST 514 and Project Legion concerns" thread, started by CCP Rouge. Several hours later, and CCP Rouge's initial post is STILL the only blue tag in the thread.
The devs, and CCP Rouge specifically need to open their mouths, right now, and start talking. I said as much in that excerpt there. They need to start answering questions, right now.
Not deflecting.
Not prevaricating.
Certainly not hiding.
Answering.
Because as it stands right now, this situation is a wildfire. CCP can either get out in front of the thing and start cutting some firebreaks, or they can sit tight and wait for the wildfire to burn itself out. Which it will, all wildfires do.
The thing is, wildfires don't burn themselves out until everything that can be consumed has been.
If CCP wants the majority of the community that's been built to thrash around madly until they give up and quit CCP games in their entirety out of frustration and disgust with the management, then by all means they can keep quiet and wait.
If CCP wants to salvage any scrap of the DUST playerbase (other than those who don't have enough self respect to give a damn about what's been done and will gladly ride the next CCP pet project regardless) then they need to get out here and cut those firebreaks, start giving this fire some direction.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4239
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
I want to stay calm.
But I have no intention of gaming on a PC. The entire future of this game for me is now dependant entirely upon the potential of a PS4 announcement.
I'm really not enjoying sitting here and waiting, wondering if capping out this week is even worth it.
Seeing Legion footage makes me look forward to what can come, but we've all been running on those hopes & promises for years now, and I'm fed up of it. We've clearly been fleeced, so why should I trust CCP to deliver anymore?
Sure, why the f*ck not?
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
703
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:30:00 -
[48] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ducttape Tinker wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:May I also ask please STOP ATTACKING OTHER DUST PLAYERS. If they want to support legion let them, but they had nothing do with a wild legion appearing in the tall fanfest grass.
Forums used Rage it was super effective.
CCP Rouge is stunned.
But it's alright for them to talk about how the PS3 is a failed platform but they still play on that same platform . It's alright how they keep talking down to console gamers and throwing the fact that legion is going to PC and dust is being abandoned but that's alright though seeing as how you are right along with them and your trolling threads . You and them are in the same boat and fanning the flames so you can't expect others to do what you yourself are not willing to do . rouge is stunned, are you serious ???? Stunned is not enought, i want feel his fear, his wet eyes, i want his fast beating heard sound and his gaps for air. What CCP did is disgracefull move and we should show them what we are. WE ARE THE COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE AND NEVER FORGET!! Did you not watch the CCP Presents part? Also stunned part is an exaggeration; he expected the rage and a bit of it just not to the level that nearly matched cpm prophetcies.
Of course we could never reach the rage that the Godly CPM achieved, how dare us even attempt.
Which part of the CCP Presents are you referring to?
While you're at it CCP, suck the middle of my dick!
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
3000
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:38:00 -
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to be honest they better not stop working on the legion project,dust is going nowhere on the PS3 it never will, i really hope rouge knows better than to pay attention to members who freak out no what they do on dust.
pay attention to server numbers, frankly the people who have been quitting are known trouble makers anyway.
i love ya soda but this freak out for a game thats going to be around for a few years at the minimum is way over the top. everyone was calling for a PC port beucase we all knew dust was going nowhere and now we get our PC port your all freak out likes it come out of the blue
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
193
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:43:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:I have PC more than capable enough to run legion. The problem is the complete lack of information regarding Dust514. You know, the entire reason most of us were watch the stream in the first place. Yet CCP continues to harp on about legion & 'the mercenary eve experience'. While unable to give any solid info on Dust except for what we're not getting.
the thing though is that most of us dont have a PC. and most of us arent going to get a computer that is AT LEAST $500 for ONE GAME. CCP is insane if they think that we are going to do the opposite of what i just said we wouldnt do. thats anoher reason why we are mad.
also, we dont know if we are even goibg to ge to keep our BPOs, or if the game will even be Free-to-play. if its another game CCP has for PC, it is very possible it will have a pay-to-play model.
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
2082
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:55:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Yes, that has done WONDERS FOR US SO FAR.
UPRISING taught CCP NOTHING, sure as **** TAUGHT YOU NOTHING.
Take your condescending attitude and go shove it. There is nothing that can be said here to change the FACT WE ARE A GAME WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE.
So **** off you condescending prick. Adapt or die, bro.
Like honestly dude, PCs are not expensive and they're incredible investments for things beyond just gaming. In the X amount of months/years that Legion is to be released why don't you dedicate some time to make a bit of extra $$. You're a creative guy. You know a lot about peculiar subjects and have some idiosyncratic talents. Why don't you invest some time to learn to monetize yourself instead of wasting time raging?
There was this psychological study done that found venting frustration can actually lead to dependency to frustration itself. When you let out your anger like that constantly the brain is in certain ways reinforcing those attitudes through reward pathways and behavioral conditioning. Take from that what you will.
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
738
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:57:00 -
[52] - Quote
Funkmaster Whale wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Yes, that has done WONDERS FOR US SO FAR.
UPRISING taught CCP NOTHING, sure as **** TAUGHT YOU NOTHING.
Take your condescending attitude and go shove it. There is nothing that can be said here to change the FACT WE ARE A GAME WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE.
So **** off you condescending prick. Adapt or die, bro. Like honestly dude, PCs are not expensive and they're incredible investments for things beyond just gaming. In the X amount of months/years that Legion is to be released why don't you dedicate some time to make a bit of extra $$. You're a creative guy. You know a lot about peculiar subjects and have some idiosyncratic talents. Why don't you invest some time to learn to monetize yourself instead of wasting time raging? There was this psychological study done that found venting frustration can actually lead to dependency to frustration itself. When you let out your anger like that constantly the brain is in certain ways reinforcing those attitudes through reward pathways and behavioral conditioning. Take from that what you will. Like, yea, honestly, dude, we're all rich and should, like, really, people can't afford one? That's stupid. You're all stupid. Like, omg, poor people, ew. |

Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
2082
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:00:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Yes, that has done WONDERS FOR US SO FAR.
UPRISING taught CCP NOTHING, sure as **** TAUGHT YOU NOTHING.
Take your condescending attitude and go shove it. There is nothing that can be said here to change the FACT WE ARE A GAME WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE.
So **** off you condescending prick. Adapt or die, bro. Like honestly dude, PCs are not expensive and they're incredible investments for things beyond just gaming. In the X amount of months/years that Legion is to be released why don't you dedicate some time to make a bit of extra $$. You're a creative guy. You know a lot about peculiar subjects and have some idiosyncratic talents. Why don't you invest some time to learn to monetize yourself instead of wasting time raging? There was this psychological study done that found venting frustration can actually lead to dependency to frustration itself. When you let out your anger like that constantly the brain is in certain ways reinforcing those attitudes through reward pathways and behavioral conditioning. Take from that what you will. Like, yea, honestly, dude, we're all rich and should, like, really, people can't afford one? That's stupid. You're all stupid. Like, omg, poor people, ew. I can honestly send you one of my previously built gaming PCs that still runs perfectly if it would bring you back to the Light side.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
728
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:01:00 -
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My response:
Fukc IWS.
I have more respect for that french CPM who resigned than i EVER will for you again.
Too busy burning the forum to give a S H I T!
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Ducttape Tinker
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
92
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:02:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Yes, that has done WONDERS FOR US SO FAR.
UPRISING taught CCP NOTHING, sure as **** TAUGHT YOU NOTHING.
Take your condescending attitude and go shove it. There is nothing that can be said here to change the FACT WE ARE A GAME WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE.
So **** off you condescending prick. Adapt or die, bro. Like honestly dude, PCs are not expensive and they're incredible investments for things beyond just gaming. In the X amount of months/years that Legion is to be released why don't you dedicate some time to make a bit of extra $$. You're a creative guy. You know a lot about peculiar subjects and have some idiosyncratic talents. Why don't you invest some time to learn to monetize yourself instead of wasting time raging? There was this psychological study done that found venting frustration can actually lead to dependency to frustration itself. When you let out your anger like that constantly the brain is in certain ways reinforcing those attitudes through reward pathways and behavioral conditioning. Take from that what you will.
Adapt for lies and for betray this kind?! Boyo you are on a hell FANBOY if you accept this kind of behaviours on us. I bet if you kid do somethink like this you will smack him on butt in no time.
"Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
2082
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:06:00 -
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Ducttape Tinker wrote:Adapt for lies and for betray this kind?! Boyo you are on a hell FANBOY if you accept this kind of behaviours on us. I bet if you kid do somethink like this you will smack him on butt in no time. W--what?
If I had a child that created a video game that then dropped that project to make an even better game but at the same time pissing off a few thousand people, that I would then smack him on the butt?
Hell no I wouldn't. I'd be mighty proud my kid could do something to p-ss off so many people. That takes talent.
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Scheneighnay McBob
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:17:00 -
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Nothing new here. The forums have always been toxic and without reason.
/timetravel
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
370
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:00:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Yes, that has done WONDERS FOR US SO FAR.
UPRISING taught CCP NOTHING, sure as **** TAUGHT YOU NOTHING.
Take your condescending attitude and go shove it. There is nothing that can be said here to change the FACT WE ARE A GAME WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE.
So **** off you condescending prick. Adapt or die, bro. Like honestly dude, PCs are not expensive and they're incredible investments for things beyond just gaming. In the X amount of months/years that Legion is to be released why don't you dedicate some time to make a bit of extra $$. You're a creative guy. You know a lot about peculiar subjects and have some idiosyncratic talents. Why don't you invest some time to learn to monetize yourself instead of wasting time raging? There was this psychological study done that found venting frustration can actually lead to dependency to frustration itself. When you let out your anger like that constantly the brain is in certain ways reinforcing those attitudes through reward pathways and behavioral conditioning. Take from that what you will. Meanwhile, in the land of sane people, I have a notebook that can play Crysis comfortably. And I know that Legion won't run on it, because CCP are just as much of a team of dicksucking troglodytes as the Planetside 2 guys, who still haven't managed to get their game to run on Crysis-capable PCs with sufficient stats, even on full potato mode.
The PC port also won't fix the general issues with CCP. If you actually go for Legion and think that they will fullfill their promises this time, you are deluded. Don't forget that they made THE EXACT SAME PROMISES multiple years in a row.
A gaming PC isn't cheap. For 400Gé¼ I can buy myself an external HDD or a new phone or dozens of games. Why should I spend it on a device THAT I DON'T NEED? If 400Gé¼ is pocket change, then I'll just go out this year and buy a Surface Pro 3, which will cost me about 1000Gé¼ and actually enrichen my life, instead of a redundant computing system. |

boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
575
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:16:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Be honest, how long does the PS3 have left anyway?
The Seventh Generation of Games consoles has been going on for, what, 8 years?
We're already 2 years into Gen 8.
nintendo dont count. they use last gen tech. with a few new things. |
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