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Donwalis Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 41	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:52:00 - [1] - Quote was told by a manager at sony. who was very honest in that he was told by his higher ups up that CCP is not abandoning dust .and therefore no longer issuing refunds for in game merchandise puchased thru the playstation store. he took my personal phone number while he and his higher up's figure out whats going on.
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 329	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:52:00 - [2] - Quote InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP?
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 944	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:53:00 - [3] - Quote Sh*t Sony drank the Koolaid... xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1109	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:55:00 - [4] - Quote CCP would actually have to completely abandon Dust in order to be in breach with Sony and owe us refunds. Rest assured, the lawyers at CCP told Rogue EXACTLY how much effort he has to put into Dust in order to fulfill his contracts. That's why we will still get bug fixes for the next 6 months. There is no blood in this stone guys. Worst Companies Ever: 1) Bank of America 2) CCP 3) Comcast 4) EA 5) CCP again
AToS SaGa III Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 92	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:56:00 - [5] - Quote Donwalis wrote: was told by a manager at sony. who was very honest in that he was told by his higher ups up that CCP is not abandoning dust .and therefore no longer issuing refunds for in game merchandise puchased thru the playstation store. he took my personal phone number while he and his higher up's figure out whats going on. Wrong, you aren't getting your money back for abandonment. You're getting it back for fraud. You need to learn where you're getting screwed, buddy. You bought AUR on false promises. Call back and ask for a refund.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 391	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:56:00 - [6] - Quote Sorry, had to be posted. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
Brutal BRUTAS Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 24	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:57:00 - [7] - Quote Ivan Avogadro wrote: CCP would actually have to completely abandon Dust in order to be in breach with Sony and owe us refunds. Rest assured, the lawyers at CCP told Rogue EXACTLY how much effort he has to put into Dust in order to fulfill his contracts. That's why we will still get bug fixes for the next 6 months. There is no blood in this stone guys. i bet your right. "Join my fan club"
Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 141	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:58:00 - [8] - Quote Had the same a few hours ago. Was calling in reference to my PS4 not connecting to PSN (result, PSN is down for PS4 currently, they're trying to resolve it), and then asked for a refund. Now remember, I was speaking to someone is PS4 Networking and as soon as I brought up a refund for DUST 514 he was like I already know, CCP isn't abandoning PS3, no refund, click. Seems like CCP got to Sony REAL quick especially since it seems that EVERYONE at Sony knows about the debacle. The forgotten "A" in AAA
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13778	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:00:00 - [9] - Quote CCP has covered their bases by saying that the game will continue to be "updated". That's a very ambigious term that means different things to Sony than it does to us. This is definitely going to take more than a simple phone call to push through, because it's a deeper issue. It's about how players have been mislead into purchasing AUR, thinking that it would persist in the New Eden universe. If CCP just comes out and says that character progress will transfer to Legion, then at least for PC players, it's ok. But what about playstation only players? What happens to them? Why keep their purchases when they officially mean nothing? No one will take DUST seriously now, not in New Eden anyways. It may still exist, but it has no future. DUST is DEAD Quit?
Triple Repair Madrugar Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:03:00 - [10] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Sh*t Sony drank the Koolaid... yeah, businesses covering each others asses itt. what a suprise Get DUST purchases from last 90 days refunded! 1-800-345-SONY and press 2 then 2.

Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 329	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:04:00 - [11] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: CCP has covered their bases by saying that the game will continue to be "updated". That's a very ambigious term that means different things to Sony than it does to us. Yeah this I think. WHen they say "updated" they probably just mean more ******* Aurum packs getting released, and a few more events using said Aurum packs. God damn it.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 947	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:10:00 - [12] - Quote Triple Repair Madrugar wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: Sh*t Sony drank the Koolaid... yeah, businesses covering each others asses itt. what a suprise Sony's covering their own. This is how yesterday went down. CCP does their whole Legion Keynote. Some dude calls Sony for a refund due to abandonment/fraud. More people start to call. Supervisor sees there is an issue; calls their higher up. Once it gets to the appropriate level (3rd Party Development team, real nice guys BTW), they make a call to CCP. No one answers, because they're too high on how awesome they are, call back today. CCP claims they will continue development, as vaguely as possible. Sony flags it for further investigation, but, its the weekend, lawyers ain't cheap ever, especially on the weekend. Sony is in the dark. An actual meeting will have to occur. Until then, they are gonna freeze returns as to not give money away for no reason. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14619	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:11:00 - [13] - Quote Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13782	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:13:00 - [14] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Triple Repair Madrugar wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: Sh*t Sony drank the Koolaid... yeah, businesses covering each others asses itt. what a suprise Sony's covering their own. This is how yesterday went down. CCP does their whole Legion Keynote. Some dude calls Sony for a refund due to abandonment/fraud. More people start to call. Supervisor sees there is an issue; calls their higher up. Once it gets to the appropriate level (3rd Party Development team, real nice guys BTW), they make a call to CCP. No one answers, because they're too high on how awesome they are, call back today. CCP claims they will continue development, as vaguely as possible. Sony flags it for further investigation, but, its the weekend, lawyers ain't cheap ever, especially on the weekend. Sony is in the dark. An actual meeting will have to occur. Until then, they are gonna freeze returns as to not give money away for no reason. Seems legit DUST is DEAD Quit?
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 394	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:13:00 - [15] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. IWS why are you still here? Some men just want to watch the world burn. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 947	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:15:00 - [16] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. IWS why are you still here? Some men just want to watch the world burn. You answered your own question? xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 394	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:15:00 - [17] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. IWS why are you still here? Some men just want to watch the world burn. You answered your own question? I figured if he tried to answer he'd just lie or get it completely wrong. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
VicBoss Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 441	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:17:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. Thats awfully convenient, especially because they can print as much aurum as they want with absolutely no charge..... > "It aint no petting zoo out there! Peeps be getting deep sixed!" -Daxter
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 329	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:17:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. All current affairs aside, thanks for answering that.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14619	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:31:00 - [20] - Quote Isaa Quade wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. All current affairs aside, thanks for answering that. While aurum is digital as is plex they are not accounted for into the budget until its spent. Technically the point that the aurum is made CCP has your money. Just that any time they have to give aurum back counts against the budget because when it does get spent later on its helping justify and allocate funds for the projects that spurred them. A case in point in eve, buying plex goes to ccps wallet but spending it on ship paint justifies spending development on ship paint. Thus refunding it at a dust 514 level while CCP gets money from Sony per sale Sony cant really get refunds back from most third parties because of international monetary laws making it more expensive. I mean if you paid for it with your credit card for example. It is your credit card company that takes the hit and not Sony. Credit card company could then penalize Sony for refunds. This is one common rmt scam companies wage against most MMOs causing nearly millions in USD damage a year. Its complicated. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1056	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:33:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: InterestingGÇªCould just be Sony ducking out of losing the money, but it also might not. Btw, does anyone know where the money for refunds comes from? Does sony just take the hit or does it get deducted from transactions with CCP? Sony takes the hits if its a cash refund. Aurum refunds is a CCP hit. How is that dialogue with the developer going, Mr CPM? Post something useful or honest for a change. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
G Torq ALTA B2O 801	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:58:00 - [22] - Quote Donwalis wrote: was told by a manager at sony. who was very honest in that he was told by his higher ups up that CCP is not abandoning dust .and therefore no longer issuing refunds for in game merchandise puchased thru the playstation store. he took my personal phone number while he and his higher up's figure out whats going on. I'm going to assume that if DUST never reaches 24v24 as initially advertised, you'll call them back up and remind them of this case of false advertizing? (note: They've changed the PSN Store to no longer show 24v24 ... it did last I spent money on this game) Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 129	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:58:00 - [23] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its complicated. Are you sure about that? I used to work all day handling billing disputes between customers and 3rd parties at a cellphone company. The way I understood how it works most often, is that the 3rd party vendor still maintains ultimate liability for any charges refunded by the provider. Sony will recoup the losses down the road. CCP still has to pay to access the Sony network. You can be sure of one thing though; Sony definitely had a stern talking to with CCP. If they haven't yet, they will soon. The last thing Sony wants is bad PR for their brands. PS3 players saying "I will never buy a PS4!" is not something they want to hear.
MockHolliday Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 10	Posted - 2014.05.03 17:22:00 - [24] - Quote I want to see CPM accounts.... I wage to guess that they bought zero aurum or dust products once they knew the truth. That is where the scam comes in. Would you pay for a ticket to fanfest knowing dust'd future?


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