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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shley Ashes wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most of the dust players are in the round tables now. And how do they honestly feel ? Sorry device died; They where upset as expected but being able to talk directly to CCP Rouge and CCP Saberwing and CCP Logibro and CCP Z and the CPM as made them understand that Legion is needed, and it is the way to continue the dream for fighting on planets within the eve universe. This dream is nearly a decade old now. As for thier own opinions you're better asking them yourself; Denni, Zion, Aeon, Regnum (if he ever stops getting banned from the forums o~o) Zatara quite a few more. Few of the other folks there are like me; they community members of the dream and have been following it whever it went; others are like those most upset here; those who came aboard as the game launched. It was going to be bitter but I know that the community next year is not going to be the same as the one we had two days ago. Sure some old dust vets will be there and of couse well get new players as well because of legion heading to pc; but the community as a whole is going have to evolve as much as dust 514 is. http://novafox.deviantart.com/gallery/24886?offset=96#/art/EVE-Online-Gallente-Lander-64366185?_sid=7e41ebd6 this was drawn soemtime back in 2006 on a deployment before I discovered deviant art. Back when Dust 514 was better known as Phase 3 Back when Phase 1 wasnt even completed; and through camera trickery was shown off at fan fest back then Back when nobody had an idea what Phase 2 would look like Back when I really thought phase 3 was going to be an RTS and to prevent getting killed in orbit you landed this battlecruiser sized ship down to be your base and deploy an army. That dream is still alive; the platforms it may be on continue to shift and change but the dream carrys on and its going to continue to evolve. I remember when CCP announced it for console; the outrage made what you guys are doing seem rather tame at the time; we didnt have any Warcouncil we didnt have any CPM; or a community that tolerated it much back then and everything just got threadlocked and banned for those irate with it because it was a different game. Soon dust started to become something and the annoucments of ps4 was around the corner; I am no producer I have no idea why they couldnt shift ofter to the ps4 maybe to not garnish the reputation of a launch; maybe to many ps3 assests could not be carried over or just simply there was a significant number of ps3 specialists on the team; we dont know and may never know why ccp chose ps3. Even then ps3 annoucment continued to **** off people. And now we're here. We're litterally at the limits with the ps3; the 256mb shared + harddrive streaming and network streaming is not enough to handle the game. We could spend thousands in optimizing on a complicated platform and we're running out of tricks. Poorer optimizations version of Dust 514 should been telling tale of the signs of difficulty of making dust 514 work completly on the ps3; I mean we melted PS3s for amarr sake. There may be doubters to this claim all I can say is why isnt Planetside 2 heading for the ps3? True other games can look good on the ps3 but the lot of them cheat; go in god mode where walking through walls are possible and flying and you will see how much they do cheat the system; and the cheats they use are impossible for dust 514 to utilize. Enter uprising 1.0; destroyed and hopes of many; broke more ps3s; ultimately tarnished the dream and the CPM 0 was then drafted to become a full scale intended CPM. With that we lost the previous executive and talent and a new one was sent in to clean up his mess. CCP Rouge took his time to soak in new eden; check the cards delt to him and he made the calls. CCP Rogue was very honest with the CPM when he talked with the CPM for the first time. He didn't sell us a fancy car; he didnt sell us a grand vision that can't come true anytime soon. He told us the truth. Since then CCP Rouge got the talent he needed; shaped up the studio to be able to carry it out and began to execute his plan which most of the world saw first fruits of today. And since cannot NDA what I havent seen; that stage demonstration is the first time I have seen legion run. If Dust 514 was dealt a deathblow it was back in uprising 1.0; we been on life support ever since then; monthly updates where emergency operations for the whole year almost since launch. Legion is a new clone body being prepared; its going to be up to us to try to figure out which organs are worth transfering over and which ones to make anew but the clone is far far from ready; but the dream will live on. The ulimate betrayl would to let the dream die. Soon the surviving and new merged community will be chanting the words "We are Legion." But those who been here siince the beginning will know the truth: 514 Ill be up to do more talks after fanfest but I got the last day to get through and then the summits and battery power is limiting as well as my schedule of being where I need to be. You know what well said iws, those are good points! Points that probably should have been conveyed to us when the decision was made. We all knew that dust was going to move, we just didn't expect it at fan fest, and the PC isn't the best choice for a bunch of console gamers, ps4 would have been much better, though that was up to rouge.
This community is currently loosing a lot of drama queens that we are probably better off without, though I'm really sad for my friends who don't have good PC's and really enjoy dust!
If anything, the lesson for the legion team here is there needs to be more communication about what is going on, tech specs, roadmaps, updates on progression with points in the road map, challenges and big decisions.
I do hope that its not set in stone for the PC, but it seems that way. |
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:36:00 -
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It is true that the real punch to the nuts would have been to just let the whole vision die. I'm glad CCP are at least still working on it. |
gbghg
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:37:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shley Ashes wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most of the dust players are in the round tables now. And how do they honestly feel ? Sorry device died; They where upset as expected but being able to talk directly to CCP Rouge and CCP Saberwing and CCP Logibro and CCP Z and the CPM as made them understand that Legion is needed, and it is the way to continue the dream for fighting on planets within the eve universe. This dream is nearly a decade old now. As for thier own opinions you're better asking them yourself; Denni, Zion, Aeon, Regnum (if he ever stops getting banned from the forums o~o) Zatara quite a few more. Few of the other folks there are like me; they community members of the dream and have been following it whever it went; others are like those most upset here; those who came aboard as the game launched. It was going to be bitter but I know that the community next year is not going to be the same as the one we had two days ago. Sure some old dust vets will be there and of couse well get new players as well because of legion heading to pc; but the community as a whole is going have to evolve as much as dust 514 is. http://novafox.deviantart.com/gallery/24886?offset=96#/art/EVE-Online-Gallente-Lander-64366185?_sid=7e41ebd6 this was drawn soemtime back in 2006 on a deployment before I discovered deviant art. Back when Dust 514 was better known as Phase 3 Back when Phase 1 wasnt even completed; and through camera trickery was shown off at fan fest back then Back when nobody had an idea what Phase 2 would look like Back when I really thought phase 3 was going to be an RTS and to prevent getting killed in orbit you landed this battlecruiser sized ship down to be your base and deploy an army. That dream is still alive; the platforms it may be on continue to shift and change but the dream carrys on and its going to continue to evolve. I remember when CCP announced it for console; the outrage made what you guys are doing seem rather tame at the time; we didnt have any Warcouncil we didnt have any CPM; or a community that tolerated it much back then and everything just got threadlocked and banned for those irate with it because it was a different game. Soon dust started to become something and the annoucments of ps4 was around the corner; I am no producer I have no idea why they couldnt shift ofter to the ps4 maybe to not garnish the reputation of a launch; maybe to many ps3 assests could not be carried over or just simply there was a significant number of ps3 specialists on the team; we dont know and may never know why ccp chose ps3. Even then ps3 annoucment continued to **** off people. And now we're here. We're litterally at the limits with the ps3; the 256mb shared + harddrive streaming and network streaming is not enough to handle the game. We could spend thousands in optimizing on a complicated platform and we're running out of tricks. Poorer optimizations version of Dust 514 should been telling tale of the signs of difficulty of making dust 514 work completly on the ps3; I mean we melted PS3s for amarr sake. There may be doubters to this claim all I can say is why isnt Planetside 2 heading for the ps3? True other games can look good on the ps3 but the lot of them cheat; go in god mode where walking through walls are possible and flying and you will see how much they do cheat the system; and the cheats they use are impossible for dust 514 to utilize. Enter uprising 1.0; destroyed and hopes of many; broke more ps3s; ultimately tarnished the dream and the CPM 0 was then drafted to become a full scale intended CPM. With that we lost the previous executive and talent and a new one was sent in to clean up his mess. CCP Rouge took his time to soak in new eden; check the cards delt to him and he made the calls. CCP Rogue was very honest with the CPM when he talked with the CPM for the first time. He didn't sell us a fancy car; he didnt sell us a grand vision that can't come true anytime soon. He told us the truth. Since then CCP Rouge got the talent he needed; shaped up the studio to be able to carry it out and began to execute his plan which most of the world saw first fruits of today. And since cannot NDA what I havent seen; that stage demonstration is the first time I have seen legion run. If Dust 514 was dealt a deathblow it was back in uprising 1.0; we been on life support ever since then; monthly updates where emergency operations for the whole year almost since launch. Legion is a new clone body being prepared; its going to be up to us to try to figure out which organs are worth transfering over and which ones to make anew but the clone is far far from ready; but the dream will live on. The ulimate betrayl would to let the dream die. Soon the surviving and new merged community will be chanting the words "We are Legion." But those who been here siince the beginning will know the truth: 514 Ill be up to do more talks after fanfest but I got the last day to get through and then the summits and battery power is limiting as well as my schedule of being where I need to be. IWS a question, as sensible and well known as your point about the PS3 being at its limit is (we all know its true guys, people have been arguing for dust to be moved to other platforms since it was announced), why was the PC chosen instead of the PS4 for legion? Given that the PS4 is the natural hardware progression for much of the dust community and would still give the devs a lot more resources to use than dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:42:00 -
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Can we get a DEV in here to light this up? Maybe replace it with Saberwing's post?
No offense but this is the most informational post I've read since fanfest started.
Oh and give us a link to that post so we can like it. Nvm found it: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2122894#post2122894
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:45:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=158965&p=2
I would like to see CCP rouge on here to properly explain his decision making process on this. Might help clear things up. |
Your Absolut End
The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:45:00 -
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CHARPORT OR DEATH TO LEGION!
# legionbloodsacrifice
Heading to Destiny/BF4 whatever interests m
PSN-Id: alice-deh
ROT IN HELL CCP
THANKS FOR THE KEYNOTES
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:45:00 -
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After all IWS' apologetics I don't particularly care about anything coming from that tag.
Sure, why the f*ck not?
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Meknow Intaki
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:47:00 -
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Who gives a shut about that wall of text!! The long and skinny is dust is dead. And CCP pulled the trigger, by doing so told the player base to **** off in the process =ƒÿò
http://jestertrek.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fanfest-day-two-red-wedding.html?m=1
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stalin93
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:50:00 -
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everyone knew dust couldn't last on the ps3 forever. we just hate being strung along and tricked into spending money on this game when the cpm and ccp knew from uprising that the game couldn't last. and announcing it in one of the worst possible ways |
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:56:00 -
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Yay. I was technically quoted!
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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NextDark Knight
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:59:00 -
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Sorry, I'm not pissing on the future development of fighting on planets.. I am pissed that I spent real money on a promise that I would keep what I have done.
This is not the case, and I want nothing more then all my rage and anger to come down on the people who so haphazardly decided to throw away my efforts.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:02:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shley Ashes wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most of the dust players are in the round tables now. And how do they honestly feel ? Sorry device died; They where upset as expected but being able to talk directly to CCP Rouge and CCP Saberwing and CCP Logibro and CCP Z and the CPM as made them understand that Legion is needed, and it is the way to continue the dream for fighting on planets within the eve universe. This dream is nearly a decade old now. As for thier own opinions you're better asking them yourself; Denni, Zion, Aeon, Regnum (if he ever stops getting banned from the forums o~o) Zatara quite a few more. Few of the other folks there are like me; they community members of the dream and have been following it whever it went; others are like those most upset here; those who came aboard as the game launched. It was going to be bitter but I know that the community next year is not going to be the same as the one we had two days ago. Sure some old dust vets will be there and of couse well get new players as well because of legion heading to pc; but the community as a whole is going have to evolve as much as dust 514 is. http://novafox.deviantart.com/gallery/24886?offset=96#/art/EVE-Online-Gallente-Lander-64366185?_sid=7e41ebd6 this was drawn soemtime back in 2006 on a deployment before I discovered deviant art. Back when Dust 514 was better known as Phase 3 Back when Phase 1 wasnt even completed; and through camera trickery was shown off at fan fest back then Back when nobody had an idea what Phase 2 would look like Back when I really thought phase 3 was going to be an RTS and to prevent getting killed in orbit you landed this battlecruiser sized ship down to be your base and deploy an army. That dream is still alive; the platforms it may be on continue to shift and change but the dream carrys on and its going to continue to evolve. I remember when CCP announced it for console; the outrage made what you guys are doing seem rather tame at the time; we didnt have any Warcouncil we didnt have any CPM; or a community that tolerated it much back then and everything just got threadlocked and banned for those irate with it because it was a different game. Soon dust started to become something and the annoucments of ps4 was around the corner; I am no producer I have no idea why they couldnt shift ofter to the ps4 maybe to not garnish the reputation of a launch; maybe to many ps3 assests could not be carried over or just simply there was a significant number of ps3 specialists on the team; we dont know and may never know why ccp chose ps3. Even then ps3 annoucment continued to **** off people. And now we're here. We're litterally at the limits with the ps3; the 256mb shared + harddrive streaming and network streaming is not enough to handle the game. We could spend thousands in optimizing on a complicated platform and we're running out of tricks. Poorer optimizations version of Dust 514 should been telling tale of the signs of difficulty of making dust 514 work completly on the ps3; I mean we melted PS3s for amarr sake. There may be doubters to this claim all I can say is why isnt Planetside 2 heading for the ps3? True other games can look good on the ps3 but the lot of them cheat; go in god mode where walking through walls are possible and flying and you will see how much they do cheat the system; and the cheats they use are impossible for dust 514 to utilize. Enter uprising 1.0; destroyed and hopes of many; broke more ps3s; ultimately tarnished the dream and the CPM 0 was then drafted to become a full scale intended CPM. With that we lost the previous executive and talent and a new one was sent in to clean up his mess. CCP Rouge took his time to soak in new eden; check the cards delt to him and he made the calls. CCP Rogue was very honest with the CPM when he talked with the CPM for the first time. He didn't sell us a fancy car; he didnt sell us a grand vision that can't come true anytime soon. He told us the truth. Since then CCP Rouge got the talent he needed; shaped up the studio to be able to carry it out and began to execute his plan which most of the world saw first fruits of today. And since cannot NDA what I havent seen; that stage demonstration is the first time I have seen legion run. If Dust 514 was dealt a deathblow it was back in uprising 1.0; we been on life support ever since then; monthly updates where emergency operations for the whole year almost since launch. Legion is a new clone body being prepared; its going to be up to us to try to figure out which organs are worth transfering over and which ones to make anew but the clone is far far from ready; but the dream will live on. The ulimate betrayl would to let the dream die. Soon the surviving and new merged community will be chanting the words "We are Legion." But those who been here siince the beginning will know the truth: 514 Ill be up to do more talks after fanfest but I got the last day to get through and then the summits and battery power is limiting as well as my schedule of being where I need to be. You know what well said iws, those are good points! Points that probably should have been conveyed to us when the decision was made. We all knew that dust was going to move, we just didn't expect it at fan fest, and the PC isn't the best choice for a bunch of console gamers, ps4 would have been much better, though that was up to rouge. This community is currently loosing a lot of drama queens that we are probably better off without, though I'm really sad for my friends who don't have good PC's and really enjoy dust! You admit that they should have told us in May 2013 what the plan was, and have been lying to us about what Dust 514 is for a year. Yet you say the people who don't like it are drama queens? You need to work on your trolling game, this is too obvious.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:04:00 -
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I agree and I disagree, I read the text because I have been waiting for someone who knows what's going on behind the curtain to comment and explain some of the reasons why. Let's be honest, we all knew the ps3 was going to go, and that there would need to a move to either the ps4 or PC. Though I'm not saying they handled it very well, in fact they couldn't have done it worse if they tried! So yes they told us to f*** off but we all knew this was going to happen one day.....well we expected a little decency and a proper farewell but they think it had to be done this way. |
Spark Kincade
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:07:00 -
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gbghg wrote: IWS a question, as sensible and well known as your point about the PS3 being at its limit is (we all know its true guys, people have been arguing for dust to be moved to other platforms since it was announced), why was the PC chosen instead of the PS4 for legion? Given that the PS4 is the natural hardware progression for much of the dust community and would still give the devs a lot more resources to use than dust.
Because the current Dust community is miniscule and PC is more profitable for F2P games at the moment. CCP insisted than fans were buying PS3's to play Dust, and I assume they'll expect the same here. |
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:07:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:Sorry, I'm not pissing on the future development of fighting on planets.. I am pissed that I spent real money on a promise that I would keep what I have done.
This is not the case, and I want nothing more then all my rage and anger to come down on the people who so haphazardly decided to throw away my efforts. Couldn't agree more, if they want to make this up to us they could start by assuring that our characters get moved over with sp intact. Otherwise I'll download legion and let it sit for a year so I can get back into my dropship on passive. I'm just as angry and disappointed about that as you. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:10:00 -
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All *I* need is a guarantee of a fair transition/copying of characters to Legion. If that is done, I'll be singing the praises of legion, and may move on from wiki.dust514.info to something for legion |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:11:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shley Ashes wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most of the dust players are in the round tables now. And how do they honestly feel ? Sorry device died; They where upset as expected but being able to talk directly to CCP Rouge and CCP Saberwing and CCP Logibro and CCP Z and the CPM as made them understand that Legion is needed, and it is the way to continue the dream for fighting on planets within the eve universe. This dream is nearly a decade old now. As for thier own opinions you're better asking them yourself; Denni, Zion, Aeon, Regnum (if he ever stops getting banned from the forums o~o) Zatara quite a few more. Few of the other folks there are like me; they community members of the dream and have been following it whever it went; others are like those most upset here; those who came aboard as the game launched. It was going to be bitter but I know that the community next year is not going to be the same as the one we had two days ago. Sure some old dust vets will be there and of couse well get new players as well because of legion heading to pc; but the community as a whole is going have to evolve as much as dust 514 is. http://novafox.deviantart.com/gallery/24886?offset=96#/art/EVE-Online-Gallente-Lander-64366185?_sid=7e41ebd6 this was drawn soemtime back in 2006 on a deployment before I discovered deviant art. Back when Dust 514 was better known as Phase 3 Back when Phase 1 wasnt even completed; and through camera trickery was shown off at fan fest back then Back when nobody had an idea what Phase 2 would look like Back when I really thought phase 3 was going to be an RTS and to prevent getting killed in orbit you landed this battlecruiser sized ship down to be your base and deploy an army. That dream is still alive; the platforms it may be on continue to shift and change but the dream carrys on and its going to continue to evolve. I remember when CCP announced it for console; the outrage made what you guys are doing seem rather tame at the time; we didnt have any Warcouncil we didnt have any CPM; or a community that tolerated it much back then and everything just got threadlocked and banned for those irate with it because it was a different game. Soon dust started to become something and the annoucments of ps4 was around the corner; I am no producer I have no idea why they couldnt shift ofter to the ps4 maybe to not garnish the reputation of a launch; maybe to many ps3 assests could not be carried over or just simply there was a significant number of ps3 specialists on the team; we dont know and may never know why ccp chose ps3. Even then ps3 annoucment continued to **** off people. And now we're here. We're litterally at the limits with the ps3; the 256mb shared + harddrive streaming and network streaming is not enough to handle the game. We could spend thousands in optimizing on a complicated platform and we're running out of tricks. Poorer optimizations version of Dust 514 should been telling tale of the signs of difficulty of making dust 514 work completly on the ps3; I mean we melted PS3s for amarr sake. There may be doubters to this claim all I can say is why isnt Planetside 2 heading for the ps3? True other games can look good on the ps3 but the lot of them cheat; go in god mode where walking through walls are possible and flying and you will see how much they do cheat the system; and the cheats they use are impossible for dust 514 to utilize. Enter uprising 1.0; destroyed and hopes of many; broke more ps3s; ultimately tarnished the dream and the CPM 0 was then drafted to become a full scale intended CPM. With that we lost the previous executive and talent and a new one was sent in to clean up his mess. CCP Rouge took his time to soak in new eden; check the cards delt to him and he made the calls. CCP Rogue was very honest with the CPM when he talked with the CPM for the first time. He didn't sell us a fancy car; he didnt sell us a grand vision that can't come true anytime soon. He told us the truth. Since then CCP Rouge got the talent he needed; shaped up the studio to be able to carry it out and began to execute his plan which most of the world saw first fruits of today. And since cannot NDA what I havent seen; that stage demonstration is the first time I have seen legion run. If Dust 514 was dealt a deathblow it was back in uprising 1.0; we been on life support ever since then; monthly updates where emergency operations for the whole year almost since launch. Legion is a new clone body being prepared; its going to be up to us to try to figure out which organs are worth transfering over and which ones to make anew but the clone is far far from ready; but the dream will live on. The ulimate betrayl would to let the dream die. Soon the surviving and new merged community will be chanting the words "We are Legion." But those who been here siince the beginning will know the truth: 514 Ill be up to do more talks after fanfest but I got the last day to get through and then the summits and battery power is limiting as well as my schedule of being where I need to be. IWS a question, as sensible and well known as your point about the PS3 being at its limit is (we all know its true guys, people have been arguing for dust to be moved to other platforms since it was announced), why was the PC chosen instead of the PS4 for legion? Given that the PS4 is the natural hardware progression for much of the dust community and would still give the devs a lot more resources to use than dust. The name would have been tarnished from the current version of Dust. PC is more of a fresh start with a longer lifespan then the PS4. Doesn't matter how new the PS4 is PC will always out live it.
I get it.... in a way i knew it. I just don't like it.
I hope Dust 514/Legion does well. I just can't follow it.
"We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:14:00 -
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The CPM are a bunch of clowns, seriously what qualifies them to have a view on anything when they come on the forums and make themselves appear like assholes?
Somebody in CCPs HR department needs shot, preferably the CEO
Nemo me impune lacessit
CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love
CCP - No Credibility
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:36:00 -
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IWS don't understand the MMO in MMOFPS... PC transition is the right path, but EOL'ing our "EVE Universe is more Real than Life" characters is full ret......
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Kev Crow
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:43:00 -
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gbghg wrote:
IWS a question, as sensible and well known as your point about the PS3 being at its limit is (we all know its true guys, people have been arguing for dust to be moved to other platforms since it was announced), why was the PC chosen instead of the PS4 for legion? Given that the PS4 is the natural hardware progression for much of the dust community and would still give the devs a lot more resources to use than dust.
I think a lot of the fear, anger and hysteria has snowballed into an out of control avalanche, a rioting mob that keeps chanting a mantra: "DUST has been abandoned, we have been cheated." The real sad part here is that this conclusion has been reached not via any solid news but through innuendo and apparent psychic ability of angry players to read "between the lines" of what CCP is actually doing.
If you watch the keynote and the DUST progression streams carefully you can be rather selective in what you choose to interpret: Yes they say that most of the new progression ideas are about Legion but also it is emphasised that as much as possible - as much as the PS3 system allows without braking the existing gameplay - will be inserted into DUST. Additionally, although PC has been announced as the new direction, no one has denied the possibility of PS4 or consoles. Rather PC as a platform is to be seen as a stepping stone. If you watch both presentations with a detached mind, it is rather obvious that LEGION is suppose to be seen as the hope for all the unrealised, un-manifested future visions rather then a replacement of DUST.
Thats what I read between the lines, which is a positive and hopeful approach. But to see it like that one has to have some good will. And in defence of the community reaction I think there is not much of that left. The reasons for that we also know:
CCP as the new kid on the FPS/console block had to contend with a very large amount of scepticism right from the start. And rightly so, they have made serious mistakes, they bit off more then they could chew. They kept inspiring people with their future vision and now that many started believing and hoping... comes this massive change of direction.
The hard fact is this: Despite the shock people must admit that in order to realise this vision such a change is not only necessary but inevitable. Perhaps CCP should not have revealed LEGION in such an early stage at all. Perhaps they are naive in believing that people will see the good instead of the bad. It is counter intuitive but most players always look for surety and guarantees in what is essentially a very fluid process. Nothing is written in stone, especially in such a innovative process. If one looks at it more like a river flow, constantly changing and evolving it would be easier to see that the glass is half full and not half empty. |
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