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Jathniel
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:45:00 -
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About time.
Literally, finally.
A step in the right direction.
My PC is primed and ready, and so is my friend's PS4, when it's time.
Here's what you did wrong:
What you're going to do for the players that "tolerated" playing on the PS3?
Character transfers?
Asset transfers?
AURUM transfers?
No one hates your decision to move Dust to superior platforms.
Realstically, Dust was not going to survive 10 years on PS3. Even the most hardcore dedicated Dusters knew that deep down.
If you leave the PS3 players high and dry, that is going to be incredibly bad PR for you.
You need to do *something* for them.
I say a transfer of some sort.
I think most people would tolerate an asset/isk wipe, so long as they keep their character.
OR
Some kind of tribute to them, for recognition in the next game. An "Original Clone" tag. Or having their in-game name secured. Or their corp name.
Again, good decision with Project Legion. You'll get a way bigger playerbase.
But just don't disregard the original dusters. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1306
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Posted - 2014.05.03 16:58:00 -
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Your friend would be better off with a PC.
The PS4 is a console and No Console Ports are being considered for Legion.
Login to the Clue Server EVE Boi. 
And so it goes.
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Archbot
W a r F o r g e d
164
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:04:00 -
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I have a billion ideas that I held off from posting on Dust because it just wouldn't be possible. Now I really want to post them. If only there was a Legion forum.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5316
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:49:00 -
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Here's the deal though, only your character's name will be transferred, nothing else is seriously being looked into.
So all your time and money spent on this game was futile.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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Terry Webber
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
438
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:19:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Your friend would be better off with a PC. The PS4 is a console and No Console Ports are being considered for Legion. Login to the Clue Server EVE Boi. I don't think that's true. From what I can read in CCP Rouge's post here, they aren't quite sure yet if they're going to decide to have the game on the PS4 too. I sincerely hope they do but I won't mad about it if they don't. There are other games we can enjoy. I think we should just wait and see. |
Deltahawk Durango
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
209
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Posted - 2014.05.04 01:39:00 -
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Archbot wrote:I have a billion ideas that I held off from posting on Dust because it just wouldn't be possible. Now I really want to post them. If only there was a Legion forum.
ummm... this is the legion forum... ccp would love to see your ideas here... post away buddy!!!
I don't believe in an eye for an eye...
I believe in two eyes for an eye!
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Jathniel
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
1028
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:28:00 -
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Awesome.
Check it out.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568643/dust-514-players-can-migrate-characters-to-project-legion.html#~oDgFUG51XWZu8l |
JDEZ09
Dark Side Alliance
56
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Posted - 2014.05.04 07:29:00 -
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Yes, but still a PS4 boots on the ground variant has to happen! We see Valkyrie on both PC and Project Morpheous on PS4, why not have legion on both as well?
Its what we want, because who the heck would want to miss out on this,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFTUazuGdTw&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2014
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Here's the deal though, only your character's name will be transferred, nothing else is seriously being looked into.
So all your time and money spent on this game was futile.
This is specifically the thing that needs to change.
Moving forward we should provide feedback and ideas for the whole game, the Dust-Legion project not just one of them.
A key element of that is to make sure that the transition from Dust to Legion is NOT a full wipe and reset.
Assets are one thing, those will change, ISK can be earned again (even if that's not ideal).
Here however are some sticking points; BPOs - These were payed for in IRL cash and meant to last (as per the advertisements for them) these items were also included as part of the recent 'EVE Collectors Edition' so stripping them out of Legion, thus stripping them of their value cuts a hunk out of the collectors edition value which was a very recent and promoted sale. That's bad PR and damages player trust.
Further SP, the idea that there will be no skill system in Legion, and no migration of all the hours of time we've invested into Dust is a serious breach of trust. Not only is a game without a skill system bad for New Eden and sandbox play but gutting the value of all those play hours invested is a serious breach of trust and will cause (rightfully) very hostile responses in the eyes of the community. Too many times has the history of EVE, and the longevity therein, been trotted out during the beta and launch of Dust 514, the connection presented by CCP has been repeated and obvious "We don't abandon our games, we support and develop them for the long haul." that's fine so long as Legion really does support a true migration for Dust players. If however the actual SP and BPO assets (and honestly at least some of the ISK) is all wiped leaving only a character name then there is no persistent ace , no long term support and frankly no more real trust.
I am not the longest running EVE:O player by any means but I run 4 accounts there off and on with at least one always active for years. CCP has stated New Eden is linked and universal, as a sandbox not as separate games. I won't be evaluating my continued or future purchase of CCP products/subscriptions based on a game by game filter, I will be looking at the whole company and how they've conducted themselves on balance with regards to quality of products delivered and promises kept. The key element of that is maintaining player trust through transparency and trust. "Adapt or die." is fine, it's actually fun but only when our choices are allowed to remain meaningful and how CCP handles the migration of substantive non-consumable assets from Dust to Legion will absolutely have a key impact on that evaluation.
I know for a certainty from speaking with other players (a number of whom, like myself are both EVE:O and Dust 514 players) that I am not the only one who hold this stance.
CCP, you have stated that a part of the reason for cross platform gaming was to open New Eden up to new individuals within gaming, if the migration (and information about it) from D514 to Legion is mishandled that goal could not only fall flat but result in an on balance negative effect. I'm a single voice in the community, but it seems to me that's exactly where you do not want to be when pushing towards the launch of new projects such as Legion and Valkyrie.
0.02 ISK
Cross
SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
106
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:29:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:I know for a certainty from speaking with other players (a number of whom, like myself are both EVE:O and Dust 514 players) that I am not the only one who hold this stance.
+1 |
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