DUST Search - Two things that can help calm the rage.

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

This won't work for everybody, but it will help for some people.

1. A very clear statement that stats, equipment, isk, and aurum will transfer over from Dust to Legion. This includes unused boosters of all values. Not a "We will try", an absolute public mandate that this will happen. Lot of people right now view CCP as con artists and crooks. Slippery talk isn't going to cut it.

2. Legion releases on PS4 at the same time as PC. No mismatched or delayed release dates. PC can be the lead system, it doesn't really matter, but they need to come out at the same time. Showing favoritism for a theoretical audience over your established console players is beyond direspectful after everything we've had to put up with for the last 2 years. This game has not been a joy to play, it has been a burden to invest in.

These two things will do the most good for you right now. Putting it on PC at all was a mistake because you've now opened the doors of a F2P shooter to hackers which compromises the integrity of the games competitive nature permanently. But you made promises to the PC crowd and it's too late to turn back. Now you need to fulfill the promises to the console crowd you made two years ago. Anything less is pure disrespect.

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Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3880	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:50:00 - [1] - Quote This won't work for everybody, but it will help for some people. 1. A very clear statement that stats, equipment, isk, and aurum will transfer over from Dust to Legion. This includes unused boosters of all values. Not a "We will try", an absolute public mandate that this will happen. Lot of people right now view CCP as con artists and crooks. Slippery talk isn't going to cut it. 2. Legion releases on PS4 at the same time as PC. No mismatched or delayed release dates. PC can be the lead system, it doesn't really matter, but they need to come out at the same time. Showing favoritism for a theoretical audience over your established console players is beyond direspectful after everything we've had to put up with for the last 2 years. This game has not been a joy to play, it has been a burden to invest in. These two things will do the most good for you right now. Putting it on PC at all was a mistake because you've now opened the doors of a F2P shooter to hackers which compromises the integrity of the games competitive nature permanently. But you made promises to the PC crowd and it's too late to turn back. Now you need to fulfill the promises to the console crowd you made two years ago. Anything less is pure disrespect.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2204	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:52:00 - [2] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This won't work for everybody, but it will help for some people. 1. A very clear statement that stats, equipment, isk, and aurum will transfer over from Dust to Legion. This includes unused boosters of all values. Not a "We will try", an absolute public mandate that this will happen. Lot of people right now view CCP as con artists and crooks. Slippery talk isn't going to cut it. 2. Legion releases on PS4 at the same time as PC. No mismatched or delayed release dates. PC can be the lead system, it doesn't really matter, but they need to come out at the same time. Showing favoritism for a theoretical audience over your established console players is beyond direspectful after everything we've had to put up with for the last 2 years. This game has not been a joy to play, it has been a burden to invest in. These two things will do the most good for you right now. Putting it on PC at all was a mistake because you've now opened the doors of a F2P shooter to hackers which compromises the integrity of the games competitive nature permanently. But you made promises to the PC crowd and it's too late to turn back. Now you need to fulfill the promises to the console crowd you made two years ago. Anything less is pure disrespect. I have no idea why you guys think that CCP would want to port Legion to the PS4. On PC they have complete control. On PS4 they have to answer to Sony. Consoles aren't the cash cows they used to be. Honestly, it's more likely that it'd come to Android in a few years, and that's a pretty low likelihood.
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 323	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:53:00 - [3] - Quote They're not in a position to promise any of this right now.
PonyClause Rex Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 335	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:55:00 - [4] - Quote OP im sorry for your loss :( 5/14 RIP
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3880	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:56:00 - [5] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Number 1 is an incredibly easy promise to make. Number 2 will require Hilmar to step in, but he should have done that already to be honest.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2204	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:59:00 - [6] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Number 1 is an incredibly easy promise to make. Number 2 will require Hilmar to step in, but he should have done that already to be honest. Number two is a fantasy. Number one is way premature.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3880	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:02:00 - [7] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Number 1 is an incredibly easy promise to make. Number 2 will require Hilmar to step in, but he should have done that already to be honest. Number two is a fantasy. Number one is way premature. Number 1 is right on time. They haven't designed anything in regards to the progression system yet. If they were going to build it around the ability to transfer over stats from Dust, now is literally the only time they could feasibly do it. If they waited any longer there would be extreme complications. Number 2 is not a fantasy. It simply requires restraint on behalf of CCP.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2204	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:07:00 - [8] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Number 1 is an incredibly easy promise to make. Number 2 will require Hilmar to step in, but he should have done that already to be honest. Number two is a fantasy. Number one is way premature. Number 1 is right on time. They haven't designed anything in regards to the progression system yet. If they were going to build it around the ability to transfer over stats from Dust, now is literally the only time they could feasibly do it. If they waited any longer there would be extreme complications. Number 2 is not a fantasy. It simply requires restraint on behalf of CCP. CCP is not going to jump through all the Sony hoops again just to satisfy you Sony fanboys. It makes no financial sense. Also, every day that goes by puts the PS4 one more day behind the PC in terms of performance and flexibility. Think about it.
Jenza's Pants The Hetairoi 184	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:09:00 - [9] - Quote The only thing that will satisfy me is CCP bringing me each of their first born children forth for human sacrifice.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3881	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:09:00 - [10] - Quote Look you moronic scrub, I'm a PC gamer before anything. This argument is being made because it's the right thing to do. It has nothing to do with favoritism towards anything. There are things in life that need to be done sometimes even when they don't make perfect financial sense. And if that isn't good enough for you, how do you think a negative media shitstorm does for finances? After all, Incarna made perfect financial sense. Wait, how did that turn out?

Buster Friently Rosen Association 2208	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:17:00 - [11] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Look you moronic scrub, I'm a PC gamer before anything. This argument is being made because it's the right thing to do. It has nothing to do with favoritism towards anything. There are things in life that need to be done sometimes even when they don't make perfect financial sense. And if that isn't good enough for you, how do you think a negative media shitstorm does for finances? After all, Incarna made perfect financial sense. Wait, how did that turn out? Going to PC is the right move. PS4? Not so much. It isn't the right thing. If you want to play Legion, buy a PC that costs the same as the PS4 and paint Sony on the side if it makes you feel better. Sony has been part of the problem. Also, the right thing to do is to keep the company afloat. On the "goody two shoes, feel warm and fluffy" meter, I think keeping the hundreds of CCP employees paid is far more important that satisfying the egos of a bunch of over entitled console crybabies. I guess that's just me though :)
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3885	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:27:00 - [12] - Quote It is just you. The majority of the "talent" at CCP Shanghai can be let go for all I care. Cheap chinese labor, cheap chinese results. They clearly can't do their jobs, maybe its time they found better ones.
LittleCuteBunny 506	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:29:00 - [13] - Quote supporting a developer that did this to a community, nty Not even if they port to ps4 or transfer accounts Graveyard 514 Project Legion is a different game, meaning nothing you do in Dust 514 will port to it.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3886	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:31:00 - [14] - Quote Can't blame you Bunny. It's not enough of an apology for most people, and even if they did it I would still be hostile towards CCP in a very permanent way. But it's pretty much all they can do.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2211	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:31:00 - [15] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: It is just you. The majority of the "talent" at CCP Shanghai can be let go for all I care. Cheap chinese labor, cheap chinese results. They clearly can't do their jobs, maybe its time they found better ones. I think they just did :)
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 750	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:31:00 - [16] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Going to PC is the right move. PS4? Not so much. It isn't the right thing. If you want to play Legion, buy a PC that costs the same as the PS4 and paint Sony on the side if it makes you feel better. This is the most stupid **** you PC mustard race guys spew. You cannot build a PC capable of running a decent FPS made in the past year on medium setting for 400$ If it was possible I would have done it a long time ago. TDBS My * points to her interface{} if you know what I mean
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3886	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:32:00 - [17] - Quote Nah, they are still going to be writing broken vaporware for the next three years. Same job. Its just that now you guys get to suffer instead of us.
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 323	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:36:00 - [18] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Number 1 is an incredibly easy promise to make. Number 2 will require Hilmar to step in, but he should have done that already to be honest. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2112464#post2112464
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3888	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:40:00 - [19] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Number 1 is an incredibly easy promise to make. Number 2 will require Hilmar to step in, but he should have done that already to be honest. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2112464#post2112464 That is super old news, and the post I made was largely in rebuttal to that. That is the slippery talk I spoke of and the unwillingness to commit.
Cosgar 9222	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:48:00 - [20] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Even if it was promised, would you believe them? Look at all the **** that was promised for the past two years. This community is the nail in Dust 514's coffin, waiting to be hammered in.

Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1053	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:51:00 - [21] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This won't work for everybody, but it will help for some people. 1. A very clear statement that stats, equipment, isk, and aurum will transfer over from Dust to Legion. This includes unused boosters of all values. Not a "We will try", an absolute public mandate that this will happen. Lot of people right now view CCP as con artists and crooks. Slippery talk isn't going to cut it. 2. Legion releases on PS4 at the same time as PC. No mismatched or delayed release dates. PC can be the lead system, it doesn't really matter, but they need to come out at the same time. Showing favoritism for a theoretical audience over your established console players is beyond direspectful after everything we've had to put up with for the last 2 years. This game has not been a joy to play, it has been a burden to invest in. These two things will do the most good for you right now. Putting it on PC at all was a mistake because you've now opened the doors of a F2P shooter to hackers which compromises the integrity of the games competitive nature permanently. But you made promises to the PC crowd and it's too late to turn back. Now you need to fulfill the promises to the console crowd you made two years ago. Anything less is pure disrespect. Eff that. I was promised a 5 year plan on a dying console - I wondered why but there it was. I don't give a flying **** about what they are transferring to PC. I want what was promised first. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1053	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:54:00 - [22] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: They're not in a position to promise any of this right now. Number 1 is an incredibly easy promise to make. Number 2 will require Hilmar to step in, but he should have done that already to be honest. Number two is a fantasy. Number one is way premature. Number 1 is right on time. They haven't designed anything in regards to the progression system yet. If they were going to build it around the ability to transfer over stats from Dust, now is literally the only time they could feasibly do it. If they waited any longer there would be extreme complications. Number 2 is not a fantasy. It simply requires restraint on behalf of CCP. CCP is not going to jump through all the Sony hoops again just to satisfy you Sony fanboys. It makes no financial sense. Also, every day that goes by puts the PS4 one more day behind the PC in terms of performance and flexibility. Think about it. Also, Legion is new enough that they don't know what might transfer over. Probably the last thing they want is to shackle Legion with some of the mistakes in Dust. lol 'sony fanboys' - this is rich. They came to PS begging to expand into a new market and ended up with a committed community - now they are tossing the community like a used up jimmy. Oh wait, actually they are trying to swindle more money out of us first. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.


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