DUST Search - Whats to stop Legion from ending up just like DUST?

Joey-Number1 wrote:

Obviously some people are blinded by the fact they lost all their investment and by their rage which makes them not think clearly anymore. Your money did not go in nothing, it is all there for us to shape the best dust experience ever, it is more than you think. First learn about the EVE Universe, it's complexity, deep backstory, and scale and you may potentially realize what all this means. You honestly don't know what you are missing on. This, none of these things or goals would be possible on a console, not even on PS4, there would come limitations more and more and less freedom. Honestly, you know PS3 was a dying platform from the release of dust, and that is why we didn't get what we thought we could get, and there are obviously huge reasons for that, trust me. You have to realize the scale of it all. Dust helped to shape the realy vision of what will come. The positive facts just totally outshadow these completely unnecessary dramas. It would not ever happen on PS3 in the grand scale, complexity and depth, just reconcile with it.

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IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 642	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:20:00 - [1] - Quote Years of development tossed away for WOD Years of development. Deployed DUST514. Pronounced dead 02MAY14 but left on life support for a decade. Redone on a different system. Seriously, how can we expect that legion will lauch and not become shelved 2 years later? Something clever that makes people think Im not a bitter **.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2920	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:22:00 - [2] - Quote Nothing, is the answer you require. Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart. Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 353	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:23:00 - [3] - Quote I predict CCP will just make the same mistakes again. They think PvE and Player Market will fix this broken game? No. Those things are merely distractions to the core problems in DUST, and soon to be in Legion. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2544	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:23:00 - [4] - Quote Don-¦t play legion alpha/beta. At least dont spend any money there. Wait for the game to be released and get decent reviews before even considering playing it. R.I.P. Dust 514. You were a beta. May 2014.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 123	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:24:00 - [5] - Quote Well for one it's on a platform that wasn't already nearly a decade obsolete on launch day.
Chimichanga66605 Myrmidon Syndicate 96	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:24:00 - [6] - Quote Its DOOMEDtm. **** EVE:Legion. I was a Medic, Assault, Commando specialist. I ran a Scout & Sentinel for fun. I was a Minmatar Loyalist.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 7318	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:25:00 - [7] - Quote It's on a better platform. It's almost everything Dust merely aspired to be. It performs better. It looks better.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 353	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:27:00 - [8] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: It performs better. How do you know this? Have you played the pre-beta? Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 642	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:28:00 - [9] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: It's on a better platform. It's almost everything Dust merely aspired to be. It performs better. It looks better. Yeah, advertising aside (I saw it too: burning trees and stupid tankers ftw) Something clever that makes people think Im not a bitter **.
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 317	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:29:00 - [10] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: It's on a better platform. It's almost everything Dust merely aspired to be. It performs better. It looks better. It doesn't exist yet. What you say it is are more promises from CCP.

crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2470	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:40:00 - [11] - Quote They didn't even show any substantial... 1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support. Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
Cotsy The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 68	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:44:00 - [12] - Quote Legion could possibly be subscription model. So that. Also PC gamers are average age 37. So disposable income helps. Pay to win.
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 298	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:48:00 - [13] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It performs better. How do you know this? Have you played the pre-beta? Watching a video of the gameplay should answer your question.
Kane Fyea 2714	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:49:00 - [14] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: It's on a better platform. It's almost everything Dust merely aspired to be. It performs better. It looks better. 1. PC can be better in some aspects but in others it fall on its face 2. Not even close 3. From the video I saw it doesn't seem like it performs any better 4. Putting glitter on a piece of **** doesn't make it any less of a piece of shit Literally legion looks almost exactly like dust except for a new hud, pretty graphics, on a new map. (Still not even that great of graphics) Seriously the models, sounds, and battle icons are the same.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2195	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:50:00 - [15] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: I predict CCP will just make the same mistakes again. They think PvE and Player Market will fix this broken game? No. Those things are merely distractions to the core problems in DUST, and soon to be in Legion. This is why the move to PC is necessary. You see, those things aren't window dressing. They are the core of the game. This is part of the console mentality that has partially help to ruin Dust. Thankfully, Legion on PC is on the way!
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Top Men. 372	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:53:00 - [16] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Well for one it's on a platform that wasn't already nearly a decade obsolete on launch day. So now you will clearly see the ground before your limp clone body hits it? FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3469	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:02:00 - [17] - Quote It's being developed by the same team that brought you an unbalanced game with one match mode and one role. It might have better graphics and a higher player count, but that wouldn't make it any less boring or any more playable. The old team knew nothing about playability, and Legion will inherit the same flaws unless the new EP designs the whole thing himself or hires someone who knows how to.
Archbot W a r F o r g e d 163	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:03:00 - [18] - Quote Well, one they most likely learnt from their mistakes. It'd be foolish to say they didn't. Second, on PC they can really create the dream they always wanted. So they're really not limited as much as they were on PS3. Ya¦Åu-Å Å-ÅGèéGäîGä¦Gä¦Gä¦-ìY
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 809	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:07:00 - [19] - Quote Archbot wrote: Well, one they most likely learnt from their mistakes. It'd be foolish to say they didn't. Second, on PC they can really create the dream they always wanted. So they're really not limited as much as they were on PS3. Sadly few people learn from their mistakes. This is why they repeat them. Given the epic mistakes made by CCP throughout Dust 514 I feel confident in anticipating the same thing. ...
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2196	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:08:00 - [20] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Archbot wrote: Well, one they most likely learnt from their mistakes. It'd be foolish to say they didn't. Second, on PC they can really create the dream they always wanted. So they're really not limited as much as they were on PS3. Sadly few people learn from their mistakes. This is why they repeat them. Given the epic mistakes made by CCP throughout Dust 514 I feel confident in anticipating the same thing. They've learned enough not to go with a console again :)

Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven 96	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:14:00 - [21] - Quote Obviously some people are blinded by the fact they lost all their investment and by their rage which makes them not think clearly anymore. Your money did not go in nothing, it is all there for us to shape the best dust experience ever, it is more than you think. First learn about the EVE Universe, it's complexity, deep backstory, and scale and you may potentially realize what all this means. You honestly don't know what you are missing on. This, none of these things or goals would be possible on a console, not even on PS4, there would come limitations more and more and less freedom. Honestly, you know PS3 was a dying platform from the release of dust, and that is why we didn't get what we thought we could get, and there are obviously huge reasons for that, trust me. You have to realize the scale of it all. Dust helped to shape the realy vision of what will come. The positive facts just totally outshadow these completely unnecessary dramas. It would not ever happen on PS3 in the grand scale, complexity and depth, just reconcile with it. Minmatar Logistics since the beginning. Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon. Explorer.
medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 673	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:14:00 - [22] - Quote At least the domination objective will change every 5 minutes. But yea, there's still a lot of unknowns. EVE: Legion could succeed at being everything Dust514 was meant to be or it could flop. Project Legion is supposed to be a bunch of goals that CCP can realistically achieve. But anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Medium frame EHP is not medium
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 644	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:18:00 - [23] - Quote So will you still be buying Legion Microtransactions while they are trashing it? Would ANY Aur have been sold if they had told us 6 months ago that DUST was being shelved so they could break their contract with Sony? Something clever that makes people think Im not a bitter **.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2201	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:19:00 - [24] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: Obviously some people are blinded by the fact they lost all their investment and by their rage which makes them not think clearly anymore. Your money did not go in nothing, it is all there for us to shape the best dust experience ever, it is more than you think. First learn about the EVE Universe, it's complexity, deep backstory, and scale and you may potentially realize what all this means. You honestly don't know what you are missing on. This, none of these things or goals would be possible on a console, not even on PS4, there would come limitations more and more and less freedom. Honestly, you know PS3 was a dying platform from the release of dust, and that is why we didn't get what we thought we could get, and there are obviously huge reasons for that, trust me. You have to realize the scale of it all. Dust helped to shape the realy vision of what will come. The positive facts just totally outshadow these completely unnecessary dramas. It would not ever happen on PS3 in the grand scale, complexity and depth, just reconcile with it. Buying stuff in a game is not an investment.
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2359	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:20:00 - [25] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Don-¦t play legion alpha/beta. At least dont spend any money there. Wait for the game to be released and get decent reviews before even considering playing it. I wont consider playing it even then, because I have no respect for ccp anymore.... none. this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2359	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:20:00 - [26] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: Obviously some people are blinded by the fact they lost all their investment and by their rage which makes them not think clearly anymore. Your money did not go in nothing, it is all there for us to shape the best dust experience ever, it is more than you think. First learn about the EVE Universe, it's complexity, deep backstory, and scale and you may potentially realize what all this means. You honestly don't know what you are missing on. This, none of these things or goals would be possible on a console, not even on PS4, there would come limitations more and more and less freedom. Honestly, you know PS3 was a dying platform from the release of dust, and that is why we didn't get what we thought we could get, and there are obviously huge reasons for that, trust me. You have to realize the scale of it all. Dust helped to shape the realy vision of what will come. The positive facts just totally outshadow these completely unnecessary dramas. It would not ever happen on PS3 in the grand scale, complexity and depth, just reconcile with it. shut yer mouth... this game makes me sad....
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 323	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:10:00 - [27] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It performs better. How do you know this? Have you played the pre-beta? Lets be honest here, it can't possibly perform any worse than DUST atm... EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Spark Kincade Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:17:00 - [28] - Quote The PC F2P market is massively bigger than the PS3 F2P market, going by the DFC market analysts, who conclude the PC market brings in more revenue than all consoles combined due to this. If they can tap into that market, it should lead to a long and prosperous life for Legion.
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 627	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:26:00 - [29] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It's on a better platform. It's almost everything Dust merely aspired to be. It performs better. It looks better. 1. PC can be better in some aspects but in others it fall on its face 2. Not even close 3. From the video I saw it doesn't seem like it performs any better 4. Putting glitter on a piece of **** doesn't make it any less of a piece of shit Literally legion looks almost exactly like dust except for a new hud, pretty graphics, on a new map. (Still not even that great of graphics) Seriously the models, sounds, and battle icons are the same. 1.PC is better in ALL aspects with PC crippling consoles performance wise and gaming experience wise 2.lol wat? 3.frames rate going from 10-30 on a ps3 to 60-100+ On PC? Yaaaa 4.!!!!!!!! EXACTLY!!!! You are basically indirectly agreeing with the change "you can't polish a turd" Hence them starting over! '#PCMasterRace
Cinnamon267 180	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:34:00 - [30] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Years of development tossed away for WOD Years of development. Deployed DUST514. Pronounced dead 02MAY14 but left on life support for a decade. Redone on a different system. Seriously, how can we expect that legion will lauch and not become shelved 2 years later? It might. Depends on how many people play it. It's much better off on the PC as opposed to this insanely old console. You'll have a larger core audience on the PC as opposed to the PS3. An old platform where a large % of the core audience is already on the PS4. There is a chance this fails. It's lower than it is now due to the fact it will be more like how CCP wanted in the first place.

J0hlss0n Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 153	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:37:00 - [31] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: ....more promises from CCP. ... and we all know what will happen with those promises....
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 3216	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:39:00 - [32] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Well for one it's on a platform that wasn't already nearly a decade obsolete on launch day. This, ignorant op lol. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Taylor Badasz 22	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:53:00 - [33] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Years of development tossed away for WOD Years of development. Deployed DUST514. Pronounced dead 02MAY14 but left on life support for a decade. Redone on a different system. Seriously, how can we expect that legion will lauch and not become shelved 2 years later? Let it burn. It deserves it. I'll miss this game,I really will. But I wil be here until the servers are shut down. o7 to everyone still here.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 7326	Posted - 2014.05.03 14:26:00 - [34] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It performs better. How do you know this? Have you played the pre-beta? PC > PS3


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