You act as if DUST has a future, as if it's somehow OUR fault for CCPs failing.

You want to know why people are poisonous? Because CCP lied to them. They built them up. The promised them so many things, assured them time and time again that they were focused, that this was possible.

Then you come in here and spout some garbage about how we should show the game support so it can get a couple more years?

Why, in GODs name, would we do that? CCP just ADMITTED that DUST on PS3 will NEVER be what it was promised to be.

If you want damage control, push for this:

Cancel DUST, completely. Transfer all assets that can be transferred, to Legion. Pull all funding for DUST, effective immediately, and push it into Legion. Close the servers. Do NOT act like DUST has a future. It does NOT have a "strong foundation" or "solid shooter mechanics". We didn't rage at this game being incomplete, because we were duped into thinking it would persist and improve. It is abundantly clear that that future will not come to pass on the PS3.

If CCP was smart, they would make an emergency press release stating that character names, accumulated SP, and all unspent AUR (boosters and gear that aren't used will be reverted to AUR, and refunded) will be transferred to Legion upon launch, with a special DUST VETERANs gift to go with it.

CCP shot themselves in the foot, and I'm in no mood to even urinate on the wound to clean it.

seriously all that matters is will the let me transfer my ******* merc to legion..the deciding factor in vamping up and buying a new gaming pc...or a ps4 is right there...will my merc be transferable to legion ? because if so that would not only give me a reason to go fix my pc over buying a ps4 it also gives me reason to continue playing dust in its current form until the start of legion.



it is ccp's choice if they do not give us some means of transfer...they are building legion.. our characters are on tranquility ..i seriously hope besides forcing us to go pc to continue in the fps side of new eden..they dont also force our years of dedication to their vision to be for nothing.

i want my main to be in legion i want it to have some form of carry over i dont care about inventory i dont care about isk...

i want my sp ..or its equal in legion i have a very versatile merc that i have spent 2 years building

and im sure many others want this as well for their characters.

Okay, you know what IWS? I was going to keep quiet and respect the idea behind your thread, even if I didn't agree with it, but this right here is just too much.


I'm going to gloss over your bad comparisons to other games, how the manner and events of their discontinuation have little parity with DUST 514's.

I'm also going to spare you a lecture about how advertising a product or service as providing one thing (continued updates, expansion and refinement of the world and gameplay systems, further interconnectivity with the New Eden universe) and then delivering another, similar-in-appearance-but-obviously-NOT-the-same product or service (DUST 514 as it is today, with no further updates or expansion, as stated by fanfest announcements) while continuing to advertise said product or service as fully still providing that thing is not only unethical, it's downright illegal.

Which is what CCP has done over the last 4~ish months or thereabouts, since DUST 514 development was halted.


If Blizzard said today "We're shuttering development as of this October, WoW at that point will be as developed as it is ever going to be. Buy items through the in-game market from this point on at your own risk and with full knowledge of this fact" they'd be fine.

If Blizzard came to this decision six months ago and didn't tell anyone until Blizzcon in November the customers would have every right to demand a refund of their monies, if Blizzard continued to advertise WoW during that time as an MMO with continual content updates and open-ended additions. ESPECIALLY if the majority of Blizzard's sales were made up of items that served no purpose but to increase the speed of progression. Progression which would be rendered pointless much sooner than anticipated, because the end of progression FOREVER would at that point be very much in sight.


Gah, I said I'd spare you a lecture and ended up giving it to you anyway. My apologies. Sorta.




The issue I have with you is this attitude of yours. Exemplified in the quoted post.

You keep painting CCP as the victim here. That the playerbase is jumping down CCPs throats unjustifiably.

You say we should continue to support CCP, so that DUST can "continue to thrive" for fear of CCP "pulling the plug".


NEWSFLASH, IWS!

DUST hasn't THRIVED in a long time, possibly EVER. And it isn't because the players didn't want it to thrive. It isn't because we didn't support CCP.
If we hadn't supported CCP, those refund threads you seem to find so distasteful WOULDN'T EXIST!

We DID support CCP. That was our mistake. Because our support in the end was used to fund a DIFFERENT GAME, instead of the one we actually played.


We aren't at risk of causing CCP to pull the plug due to our lack of support! CCP pulled the plug AND WE ARE WITHDRAWING WHAT SUPPORT WE CAN IN CONSEQUENCE!

This is called reaping what you've sown.


CCP has given up on the game, but you expect the players to continue to bankroll the development of the OTHER game that sounded the death-knell of this one? The game that CCP stated straight-up was gaining its development and ideas at the cost of this one?

Basically, you want us to purchase a first class suite on the Titanic, AS IT IS SINKING?



Every post you makes smacks of poorly executed damage control, and comes across as a sad attempt at maintaining personal relevance as some sort of leadership figure in a world which has just been given its pink slip by The Powers That Be.

You can't lead people which have no future. There's nowhere to lead them to.

Quotes from some people making sense.





Otherwise you're just thieves, and you know it. CCP, you can still recover from this, you can still handle this the right way . . . well not the right way, it's too late for that, but you can still make it as close to right as we can be now. You're almost assuredly not reading this, but if you are, seriously, seriously think about the sense many people are making in the midst of all this frustration, distrust, anger, and disdain you have engendered.

If some CCP dev, say your new EA import, is trying to convince you otherwise . . . really, really think about how you all are handling this. There can be a compromise, but are you honorable enough to attempt one? Clearly we all doubt it, but some people are trying to work with you here. If you want to be a little Icelandic EA . . . well, keep it up. You're doing a great job of being as reviled, at least.

I challenge the community to post constructive suggestions on how CCP might correct things. Please don't make ultimatums. Please do not simply post f*** you, CCP. Please let this thread be constructive. Yes, CCP screwed the pooch here, and us along with it, but . . . but . . . let's at least try to be a part of the solution. Besides, there are hundreds of threads where we can take our pitchforks and torches already. If you read all of that, including the original posts I quoted, I commend you.

Quotes from some people making sense.





Otherwise you're just thieves, and you know it. CCP, you can still recover from this, you can still handle this the right way . . . well not the right way, it's too late for that, but you can still make it as close to right as we can be now. You're almost assuredly not reading this, but if you are, seriously, seriously think about the sense many people are making in the midst of all this frustration, distrust, anger, and disdain you have engendered.

If some CCP dev, say your new EA import, is trying to convince you otherwise . . . really, really think about how you all are handling this. There can be a compromise, but are you honorable enough to attempt one? Clearly we all doubt it, but some people are trying to work with you here. If you want to be a little Icelandic EA . . . well, keep it up. You're doing a great job of being as reviled, at least.

I challenge the community to post constructive suggestions on how CCP might correct things. Please don't make ultimatums. Please do not simply post f*** you, CCP. Please let this thread be constructive. Yes, CCP screwed the pooch here, and us along with it, but . . . but . . . let's at least try to be a part of the solution. Besides, there are hundreds of threads where we can take our pitchforks and torches already. If you read all of that, including the original posts I quoted, I commend you.

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.

1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?

If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.

2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?

No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.

3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?

It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.

4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?

Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.

Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.

CCP Rouge