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Illuminaughty-696
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:07:00 -
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Quotes from some people making sense.
DUST Fiend wrote:You act as if DUST has a future, as if it's somehow OUR fault for CCPs failing.
You want to know why people are poisonous? Because CCP lied to them. They built them up. The promised them so many things, assured them time and time again that they were focused, that this was possible.
Then you come in here and spout some garbage about how we should show the game support so it can get a couple more years?
Why, in GODs name, would we do that? CCP just ADMITTED that DUST on PS3 will NEVER be what it was promised to be.
If you want damage control, push for this:
Cancel DUST, completely. Transfer all assets that can be transferred, to Legion. Pull all funding for DUST, effective immediately, and push it into Legion. Close the servers. Do NOT act like DUST has a future. It does NOT have a "strong foundation" or "solid shooter mechanics". We didn't rage at this game being incomplete, because we were duped into thinking it would persist and improve. It is abundantly clear that that future will not come to pass on the PS3.
If CCP was smart, they would make an emergency press release stating that character names, accumulated SP, and all unspent AUR (boosters and gear that aren't used will be reverted to AUR, and refunded) will be transferred to Legion upon launch, with a special DUST VETERANs gift to go with it.
CCP shot themselves in the foot, and I'm in no mood to even urinate on the wound to clean it.
Mortedeamor wrote:seriously all that matters is will the let me transfer my ******* merc to legion..the deciding factor in vamping up and buying a new gaming pc...or a ps4 is right there...will my merc be transferable to legion ? because if so that would not only give me a reason to go fix my pc over buying a ps4 it also gives me reason to continue playing dust in its current form until the start of legion.
it is ccp's choice if they do not give us some means of transfer...they are building legion.. our characters are on tranquility ..i seriously hope besides forcing us to go pc to continue in the fps side of new eden..they dont also force our years of dedication to their vision to be for nothing.
i want my main to be in legion i want it to have some form of carry over i dont care about inventory i dont care about isk...
i want my sp ..or its equal in legion i have a very versatile merc that i have spent 2 years building
and im sure many others want this as well for their characters.
Otherwise you're just thieves, and you know it. CCP, you can still recover from this, you can still handle this the right way . . . well not the right way, it's too late for that, but you can still make it as close to right as we can be now. You're almost assuredly not reading this, but if you are, seriously, seriously think about the sense many people are making in the midst of all this frustration, distrust, anger, and disdain you have engendered.
If some CCP dev, say your new EA import, is trying to convince you otherwise . . . really, really think about how you all are handling this. There can be a compromise, but are you honorable enough to attempt one? Clearly we all doubt it, but some people are trying to work with you here. If you want to be a little Icelandic EA . . . well, keep it up. You're doing a great job of being as reviled, at least.
I challenge the community to post constructive suggestions on how CCP might correct things. Please don't make ultimatums. Please do not simply post f*** you, CCP. Please let this thread be constructive. Yes, CCP screwed the pooch here, and us along with it, but . . . but . . . let's at least try to be a part of the solution. Besides, there are hundreds of threads where we can take our pitchforks and torches already. If you read all of that, including the original posts I quoted, I commend you.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Illuminaughty-696
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Posted - 2014.05.03 17:25:00 -
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Even the playerbase has begun to engage in misdirection and obfuscation. Many seem to be trying to make this out as being about people not having or wanting to buy a computer. It's not about computers, having to buy one, or whether or not it should be on console - not for the most part, and not for most of us.
Many console players would like to see DUST 2.0/Legion on a console, of course. I'll admit that this game should have been developed on the computer from the get go, yet it wasn't - it was developed on the PS3. Many of us expected a transition to PS4 or even to a PC, but what we weren't expecting was to be discarded like old trash, and essentially made into unwitting beta testers that paid to test a game, that bought into a vision, and a promise of that vision on the console. CCP has been deceptive, dishonest, and shown blatant disregard for their console customer base, their time, their loyalty, and their love.
Again, this is not about whether or not we have to buy a computer - for some perhaps, but not for most - this is about a company knowingly misleading its customers, having knowingly planned to cancel the vision they were selling for DUST, all the while planning events designed to get console consumers to continue pumping money into a dead dream - DUST as promised on PS3. This is what was advertised, this is what people bought into, this is what was sold. But even that is not the problem.
The problem, to reiterate, is that CCP has been working on Legion for months, that the vision they sold for DUST is now Legion, and that DUST is now a hollow shell of that vision that CCP had the gall to continue knowingly creating events for that encouraged investment in that vision, a vision they knew would not be realized in DUST. If CCP had been honest from the get go, had shown the integrity of character and humility to acknowledge this before leading people to buy all these Origin packs, and anything else they have bought since the point at which Legion became the new focus . . . this ire, this rage would be far more sedated.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Illuminaughty-696
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Posted - 2014.05.03 17:53:00 -
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Finally a little communication.
CCP Rouge wrote:Hi everyone,
Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.
1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?
If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.
2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?
No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.
3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?
It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.
4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?
Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.
Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.
CCP Rouge
This thread is no longer necessary. WE can attempt to engage them in discussion there. Admittedly, this will corral a lot of discussion into one thread, which will allow them to begin locking everything else under the guise of go there . . . but we have to engage in the system. Toodles.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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