DUST Search - PC VS PS3 is flawed.

Cotsy wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

Cotsy wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

Consoles are already feeling the pinch on the bottom from mobile, and PC will always sit on top.

This just makes sense.

That's the point, who the hell cares about the type of games you can play on iPads. If we want to have a discussion about PC vs Console we need to talk about the real games. We can't take puzzle games and FarmVille and zombie land or whatever into account. We need to analyze the same things, on equal footings. Grab CoD, BF, elder scrolls, dark souls 2.. The actual games and. It the fluff.

I think you misunderstand. When companies make games, they do so for money. They don't care what you think is worthy, or cool, only what you pay for. Then, they follow the money. thus PC and mobile/tablets will, inevitably, squeeze the console gaming market from both sides - as we're already seeing.

We are talking about EVE:Legion and its decision to be PC instead of PS4, and why the choice was incorrect based on statistics and gaming trends. We cannot compare cupcake puzzle games and FarmVille Facebook type games when we say PC is going to surpass consoles and therefore it's the more logical choice to where Legion decided to go, i wanted to point out a few stats/things about this flawed logic seen in forums and in youtube channels about how glad they are because PC is better option and is more popular.

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Cotsy The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 49	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:37:00 - [1] - Quote After a throughout search I found a report by Nvidia, who predicts that PC game sales will surpass console sales. The report, which is so flawed it should melt your brain predicts $23m is sales for PC and $22m for console in 2014-2015. Now, this seems promising for EVE:Legion. But here is why Nvidia, who is a PC company, screwed the stats to favor themselves in the PC vs console battle. For one, they include games such as FarmVille and other FaceBook purchases, secondly they include online purchases which they state have a $11.6 to $8b advantage in sales. So by including Facebook downloads and in-game purchases it undermines what truely is PC vs Console battle is about. Secondly, the sales figures are based on online downloads, which the PS and Xbox both offer. So here is a direct comparison: "As of right now I think we can real-¡is-¡ti-¡cally assume that that around 65% GÇö 75% of PC game sales are made online. Let us look at a cou-¡ple of recent releases such as Bat-¡tle-¡field 3 with the fol-¡low-¡ing sales num-¡bers from VGchartz: Xbox 360: 2.2 mil-¡lion PlaySta-¡tion 3: 1.5 mil-¡lion PC: 500,000" And "Let us also take a look at Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim which saw the largest con-¡cur-¡rent num-¡ber of play-¡ers ever at one time on steam at over 300,000 which for a sin-¡gle player game is staggering: Xbox 360: 1,997.215 PS3: 969,454 PC: 555,554" We see by true comparison (real games) that console dominate. The online purchases of these game make PC "online purchases" actually superior because the % of xbox and ps downloads of games is somewhere between 60-70%. This has no indication to where players are in fact pkaying, the stats are showed simply where games are being sold from. Therefore, Nvidia's and seemingly the rest of PC manufacturers and their sponsors, are using theses stats to say that PC will surpass console sales and console purchases. This is untrue, I copy pasted the stats which show PC did not compete with consoles. There also the time playing, PC players are more hardcore (8 hours) than console (1.5-8) Additionally funny, 44% of all PC games are cartage prized under: "PC games are cheaper than console games, and apparently 44% of all online games played are puzzle/board/game show/trivia/card games. 21% are GÇ£actionGÇ¥ games (sports, racing, RPG, FPS), and 16% are persistent-world (MMO) games." WHAT A JOKE. I'm not sure in this case if I am reading this right, but the stats say the average age of a PC gamer is 37 years old. That can't possibly be true.... PC also had PC only releases that are significant like Starcraft and WoW - which add a lot to its numbers. By judging by the numbers if we see which games were best selling it seems NCAA Football was only outsold by top ranked Starcraft by 5%!!! 5% for a unique! highly prized games in Starcraft vs NCAA football which is released every damn year and is hardly a standout game. So top game vs a yearly release, PC sure kicks ass LMAO Look,the processing power and the resolution etc are double what the console can offer but that doesn't mean the system is a better option. It shows the consoles are the way to go and PS4 release would be the best way to carry over current Dust 514 players to EVE:Legion and not going to PC. Money Issue: Now, I've read some things that PC games produce up to 4 times the profit as console games.. Which sounds like a lot, and let's face it while the price for PS4 and Xbox One are $600 right now, the price of a good PC screen/gaming qualify stuff is double that price. A top tier monitor is expensive, top tier mouse are $99-200, graphics cards costs nearly as much as a console themselves. I would like to mention a Nvidia card can cost up to $1100 yea double the price for the top of a line card.
Ayures II Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 591	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:39:00 - [2] - Quote What you're missing here is simple: PC Master Race supremacy.
Cotsy The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 49	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:02:00 - [3] - Quote puzzle games or FarmVille on PC, sounds so fun
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2415	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:07:00 - [4] - Quote Ayures II wrote: What you're missing here is simple: PC Master Race supremacy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1iCjpxDxz4 Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2172	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:08:00 - [5] - Quote Consoles are already feeling the pinch on the bottom from mobile, and PC will always sit on top. This just makes sense.
LittleCuteBunny 488	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:10:00 - [6] - Quote In some years PCs will be irrelevant, casual gamers are more abundant = hand held/portable devices win Graveyard 514 Project Legion is a different game, meaning nothing you do in Dust 514 will port to it.
Cotsy The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:11:00 - [7] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Consoles are already feeling the pinch on the bottom from mobile, and PC will always sit on top. This just makes sense. That's the point, who the hell cares about the type of games you can play on iPads. If we want to have a discussion about PC vs Console we need to talk about the real games. We can't take puzzle games and FarmVille and zombie land or whatever into account. We need to analyze the same things, on equal footings. Grab CoD, BF, elder scrolls, dark souls 2.. The actual games and. It the fluff.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2673	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:12:00 - [8] - Quote "New Dust" on PS4 or PC? My opinion. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Doctor Day EoN Minmatar 192	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:13:00 - [9] - Quote When will you pc dumbasses realize that any console is built differently than a pc? Atlest (some of us) dont brag how cool our consoles are compared to pc's A good gaming computer cost about 600 - 4000$ We can buy consoles around 100-400$ and get what we payed for Hardcore Pc gamers feel the need to brag about there Desktop to get what they payed out of there desktop to feel like its worth it but wateves get hated Obvious troll is Obvious All Assaults and AV players go to EON MINMATAR channel for squad ups ^_^
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2175	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:13:00 - [10] - Quote Cotsy wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Consoles are already feeling the pinch on the bottom from mobile, and PC will always sit on top. This just makes sense. That's the point, who the hell cares about the type of games you can play on iPads. If we want to have a discussion about PC vs Console we need to talk about the real games. We can't take puzzle games and FarmVille and zombie land or whatever into account. We need to analyze the same things, on equal footings. Grab CoD, BF, elder scrolls, dark souls 2.. The actual games and. It the fluff. I think you misunderstand. When companies make games, they do so for money. They don't care what you think is worthy, or cool, only what you pay for. Then, they follow the money. thus PC and mobile/tablets will, inevitably, squeeze the console gaming market from both sides - as we're already seeing.

Blondie Roads Introverts 4 Hire 54	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:14:00 - [11] - Quote A rebuttle: Lets look at the out look of players for next year..... Dust players on console, we will call them x And players on pc playing legion, we will call them y X= 0 Y = (x+100)*10000 So you see, pc is the clear winner here..
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 675	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:18:00 - [12] - Quote Ayures II wrote: What you're missing here is simple: PC Master Race supremacy. Yeah , we will see ... check back in three to five years and add up the money that you have spent in comparison to a console gamer and that will tell who's really on top . You have to basically have two to three and almost five PS4's ( maybe even more in some cases ) to have a decent PC platform for games . I for one will not shell out that type of money to play any game , this is a business and once they finish doing what they are attempting they will milk you PC gamers for every dime that they can . How can you believe otherwise given their track record so have fun , there could be so much more that you could spend your money on besides keeping the rich just that ... rich so that they will bail on you for the next big invention . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Cotsy The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:18:00 - [13] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Cotsy wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Consoles are already feeling the pinch on the bottom from mobile, and PC will always sit on top. This just makes sense. That's the point, who the hell cares about the type of games you can play on iPads. If we want to have a discussion about PC vs Console we need to talk about the real games. We can't take puzzle games and FarmVille and zombie land or whatever into account. We need to analyze the same things, on equal footings. Grab CoD, BF, elder scrolls, dark souls 2.. The actual games and. It the fluff. I think you misunderstand. When companies make games, they do so for money. They don't care what you think is worthy, or cool, only what you pay for. Then, they follow the money. thus PC and mobile/tablets will, inevitably, squeeze the console gaming market from both sides - as we're already seeing. We are talking about EVE:Legion and its decision to be PC instead of PS4, and why the choice was incorrect based on statistics and gaming trends. We cannot compare cupcake puzzle games and FarmVille Facebook type games when we say PC is going to surpass consoles and therefore it's the more logical choice to where Legion decided to go, i wish wanting to point out a few stats about flawed logic seen in forums and in youtube channels about how glad they are because PC is better option and is more popular.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2176	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:21:00 - [14] - Quote Cotsy wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Cotsy wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Consoles are already feeling the pinch on the bottom from mobile, and PC will always sit on top. This just makes sense. That's the point, who the hell cares about the type of games you can play on iPads. If we want to have a discussion about PC vs Console we need to talk about the real games. We can't take puzzle games and FarmVille and zombie land or whatever into account. We need to analyze the same things, on equal footings. Grab CoD, BF, elder scrolls, dark souls 2.. The actual games and. It the fluff. I think you misunderstand. When companies make games, they do so for money. They don't care what you think is worthy, or cool, only what you pay for. Then, they follow the money. thus PC and mobile/tablets will, inevitably, squeeze the console gaming market from both sides - as we're already seeing. We are talking about EVE:Legion and its decision to be PC instead of PS4, and why the choice was incorrect based on statistics and gaming trends. We cannot compare cupcake puzzle games and FarmVille Facebook type games when we say PC is going to surpass consoles and therefore it's the more logical choice to where Legion decided to go, i wanted to point out a few stats/things about this flawed logic seen in forums and in youtube channels about how glad they are because PC is better option and is more popular. PS4 wasn't going to happen guys. PS4 meant doing everything necessary to go to PC, but still being beholden to Sony. I think CCP managed to see through that folly.
Cotsy The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:57:00 - [15] - Quote Yea, PC is a more logical choice. They have a strong base there. But console gamers aren't going to follow, PC guys will go back to PC but CCP just wants to make money off the older crew of guys who play PC.
Sarus Rambo Direct Action Resources 153	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:18:00 - [16] - Quote Does this thread seriously question the longevity of the PC? This sums up 75% of the forum posts.
rayakalj9 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 2	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:25:00 - [17] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: In some years PCs will be irrelevant, casual gamers are more abundant = hand held/portable devices win its the same but different names


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