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Free Beers
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:35:00 -
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So wouldn't ccp hiding the fact that putting ps3 dust into stasis and not telling us being fraud? They continued as though nothing has changed and continued to promote dust in ps3 store and with marketing/community events. CCP didn't lie but fraud via omission of information is common issues especially in publicly traded companies. I'm not a lawyer but my ******* hurts for some odd reason.
thoughts?
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Vect-r
Vault of the Void
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:36:00 -
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Ok. Let me take off my clothes.
Not liking DUST so much so far, but hey, its free.
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MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
174
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:36:00 -
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Charge them back.
Check my sig.
"LASER-FOCUSED"
Never forget 5/2/14
90 Day Refunds
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
857
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:37:00 -
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No...
Like not even a little bit - You all are acting like this is the first game in history to ever get replaced by a sequel / successor. |
Government CheeseBurger
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:37:00 -
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This must be the end. I am going to agree with an IMP. And it's Free Beers.
Dust 514 Is dead to me.
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MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
174
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:38:00 -
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MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY wrote:Charge them back.
Check my sig.
Oh, looks like they deleted that post already..
Call 1 800 345 SONY, Press 2 twice (to get to PSN operator) and explain to them (calmly) that you want a refund for false advertisement. They give it for last 90 days.
"LASER-FOCUSED"
Never forget 5/2/14
90 Day Refunds
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Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
334
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:38:00 -
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See sig. And yes, the obfuscation and handling of this situation is bordering on fraud.
Get DUST purchases from last 90 days refunded!
1-800-345-SONY and press 2 and then 2
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
3408
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:43:00 -
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They are probably legally covered by keeping the servers running. Morally wrong, but probably legal. |
LittleCuteBunny
482
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:43:00 -
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Ponzi Scheme.
CCP was telling players they were working on Dust 514, but they were spending their resources from PSN sales on Project Legion and once they got enough resources they would just leave Dust 514 in the shadows. Players were being misguided about the future of their investment and the CPM was an accomplice in this crime.
Graveyard 514
Project Legion is a different game, meaning nothing you do in Dust 514 will port to it.
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Cotsy
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:45:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:So wouldn't ccp hiding the fact that putting ps3 dust into stasis and not telling us being fraud? They continued as though nothing has changed and continued to promote dust in ps3 store and with marketing/community events. CCP didn't lie but fraud via omission of information is common issues especially in publicly traded companies. I'm not a lawyer but my ******* hurts for some odd reason.
thoughts?
You have it all wrong, dust is going into stasis. Dust will be developed, it will just be as a best ground for EVE:Legion |
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
Dirt Nap Squad.
279
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:45:00 -
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I don't hope CCP gets charged for fraud, but it would be nice if they treated their playerbase with some common decency.
Director of G0DS
Tanker, Logi, Heavy, and Scout... at your service!
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Free Beers
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2540
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:46:00 -
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I'm asking a serious question. I chatted with my lawyer buddy and he said that is sounds like fraud in the inducement because they kept selling stuff as nothing has changed. He also said that that any EULA can't protect ccp from that hence why he thinks PSN is giving refunds.
Said all you had to do is get stuff via discovery to when ccp and or sony knew about this and either or would be liable. Even if they decided like 2 months ago and never stated since that dust would stay alive they continued to market/promote dust as is. Lying via omission is very common fraud claim.
he is laughing at me about it and no all my purchases were more than 3 months ago so i have no easy recourse over it.
Again i am NOT a lawyer just pinging my buddy on skpye about it this is what his said immediately(but he is sue happy guy so eh)
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
620
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:47:00 -
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LittleCuteBunny wrote:Ponzi Scheme.
CCP was telling players they were working on Dust 514, but they were spending their resources from PSN sales on Project Legion and once they got enough resources they would just leave Dust 514 in the shadows. Players were being misguided about the future of their investment and the CPM was an accomplice in this crime.
Actually you were buying aur for boosters to progress faster
'#PCMasterRace
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
274
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:50:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:No...
Like not even a little bit - You all are acting like this is the first game in history to ever get replaced by a sequel / successor.
You're acting like that's the case, when it isn't.
Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast.
Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
4598
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:50:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:LittleCuteBunny wrote:Ponzi Scheme.
CCP was telling players they were working on Dust 514, but they were spending their resources from PSN sales on Project Legion and once they got enough resources they would just leave Dust 514 in the shadows. Players were being misguided about the future of their investment and the CPM was an accomplice in this crime. Actually you were buying aur for boosters to progress faster
Progress that would mean nothing due to them moving the platform, and still not sure if they will allow transfers.
Check the Sig. Get your money back
Headed to Destiny
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Get DUST purchases from last 90 days refunded! 1-800-345-SONY and press 2 then 2
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
857
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:58:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:No...
Like not even a little bit - You all are acting like this is the first game in history to ever get replaced by a sequel / successor. You're acting like that's the case, when it isn't.
Are you seriously saying that no game has ever had a sequel...
Or maybe you're saying that Legion is not meant as a replacement for Dust, Dust 2 if you will - not sure what's more stupid TBH. |
Ayrie Coronach
DUST University
Ivy League
119
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:24:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:[quote=Stupid Blueberry]Are you seriously saying that no game has ever had a sequel...
Or maybe you're saying that Legion is not meant as a replacement for Dust, Dust 2 if you will - not sure what's more stupid TBH.
No, what we're saying is that DUST 514 is DUST 514. Legion or whatever it ends up being named doesn't factor into the discussion at all, insofar as DUST is DUST, Legion is Legion.
DUST 514 was advertised up until yesterday (and still kinda is today for everyone in the entire world that hasn't heard of the fanfest fiasco) as a sandbox-styled MMOFPS with continued development, connections to the greater New Eden universe via interaction with the PC MMORPG EVE Online, and expansion of content over time.
What CCP has delivered thus-far is a lobby shooter with some persistent elements and very few, tenuous tie-ins with EVE Online. In fact other than Orbitals in PC and the requirement for an EVE character to run a DUST corp, every tie-in with EVE Online and the New Eden universe at large is just a paint job.
We all purchased aurum and exchanged them for items in DUST 514 as a show of good faith and support on our end toward CCP as incentive for them to turn what DUST is today into what they promised us DUST would become over time.
What we were told TODAY is that not only is DUST 514 not what we were promised (which we all knew) but furthermore that DUST 514 would NEVER become what we were promised. Development toward that end has been abandoned in favor of a "do-over" in the form of Legion.
The discussion over Legion being DUST in a new candy shell, or a sequel to DUST, or the result of a drunken one night stand between DUST and some floozy FPS doesn't matter.
DUST business is DUST business. And CCP has been practicing bad DUST business. Thus the refunds, which you can learn more about here.
CALL 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS '2' AND THEN '2' AGAIN. AURUM PURCHASES CAN BE REFUNDED WITHIN 90 DAYS!
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2176
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:27:00 -
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Cotsy wrote:Free Beers wrote:So wouldn't ccp hiding the fact that putting ps3 dust into stasis and not telling us being fraud? They continued as though nothing has changed and continued to promote dust in ps3 store and with marketing/community events. CCP didn't lie but fraud via omission of information is common issues especially in publicly traded companies. I'm not a lawyer but my ******* hurts for some odd reason.
thoughts? You have it all wrong, dust is going into stasis. Dust will be developed, it will just be as a best ground for EVE:Legion
Yes, and off the constricting PS3 and away from the domineering Sony. |
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