DUST Search - Finally one more thing

DUST Fiend wrote:

lee corwood wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

lee corwood wrote:

No offense IWS but I'm failing to see the point of your position at this point. I understand that you guys were meant to be the voice of reason from the players to keep Dust514 in check but part of that includes a connection between both sides of the playing field. A bridge if you will.

This is the first post, hell, even the first comment I've seen from a CPM since the last elections. Scouring the forums just to see what we're talking about isn't really getting the information you need as only a percentage of players use these forums and I don't see you reaching out through many other of the many mediums players use. Your feedback to us is as infrequent and vague as the CCP employees.

So what purpose are the CPM's really serving?

Voice of reason to CCP and to be a player representation (which no matter how csm and future cpm candidates try to sell the idea that it is representing players; its not. Most players are capable of selling themselves.) Let one not be fooled that the CPM was most accurate in predictions on player reactions over this event. CCP did listen; and they where not lying to themselves either. When they went forward.

So CPM said, "Hey CCP, bad idea". CCP said, "Yeah, we expect that". And then it happened and everyone sat around the table in silence?

What do you think the entire year of CPM - CSM relations actually was?

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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14527	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:21:00 - [1] - Quote Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Jason Pearson State Terrestrial Mercenaries 4320	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:22:00 - [2] - Quote **** off IWS. Get fucked CCP.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 480	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:22:00 - [3] - Quote I just seen ps2 for the first time, did I miss something or is this dust on steroids?
Banjo Robertson Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 191	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:23:00 - [4] - Quote I'm a person who isnt really upset abouit Legion for PC, I'm just upset that the Dust Keynote and Dust Progression presentations were basically all about Legion and not about Dust. I know its about the concept of Dust and what they want Dust to be, but its Legion they are talking about, not Dust. And I have a suspicion that the 'more in the sandbox for Dust514" presentation will also be about Legion. This is almost like the exact opposite of last year's fanfest where they probably promised too much for what they would do for Dust, where as this year they are basically saying absolutely Nothing about dust and only talking about Legion.
Yeeshak What The French Red Whines. 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:25:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing More as I get more hard confirms. May i know what IRC server Logibro or other devs are hanging out with players please?
Jakar Umbra Altyr Initiative 589	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:25:00 - [6] - Quote So... Console gamers who joined up with this and enjoyed it and stuck around are ****** right... Lovely guess I'll be buying CoD or Battlefield after all. Author of Umbra's Short Stories Sisters of EVE Initiate.
Canari Elphus Dirt Nap Squad. 1501	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:25:00 - [7] - Quote Well, now CCP will not have any FPS game because this one just took a nosedive on anyone who really cares. As far as a PR standpoint, CCP just sh@t the bed and might as well make Legion because Dust is Dead Canari Elphus for CPM1
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 284	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:25:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing More as I get more hard confirms. Yup, that makes the situation even worse - we weren't told anything about Dust (roundtable doesn't count as it probably isn't even recorded), nor we know anything about Legion and it's planned development time. The talk about "Progression" was confirmed by CCP Z to be about Legion, and he had no idea if any of these changes will be implemented in Dust ever.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5211	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:25:00 - [9] - Quote So are those CPM elections for Dust or Legion? Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14527	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:26:00 - [10] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: I'm a person who isnt really upset abouit Legion for PC, I'm just upset that the Dust Keynote and Dust Progression presentations were basically all about Legion and not about Dust. I know its about the concept of Dust and what they want Dust to be, but its Legion they are talking about, not Dust. And I have a suspicion that the 'more in the sandbox for Dust514" presentation will also be about Legion. This is almost like the exact opposite of last year's fanfest where they probably promised too much for what they would do for Dust, where as this year they are basically saying absolutely Nothing about dust and only talking about Legion. Yet last year CCP promised the stars and delivered not much of it. This year is a 180 only having now, not soon, not soon tm, but now. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Stalken Pathfinder Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 74	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:26:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. Who is paying you to spew this crap? Nothing to see here, but thanks.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14527	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:27:00 - [12] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: So are those CPM elections for Dust or Legion? I'll ask for a confirm during CPM panel. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14527	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:27:00 - [13] - Quote Stalken Pathfinder wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. Who is paying you to spew this crap? Nothing to see here, but thanks. I don't get paid. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
lionshead nebula Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 135	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:29:00 - [14] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: So are those CPM elections for Dust or Legion? We should elect people who will absolutely give Ccp a time of it. It's simple dust needs an overlord and I personally believe in DNSBlack. VOTE DNSBLEACH!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1888	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:29:00 - [15] - Quote Lol, Iron Wolf Saber? Who are you? Who do you represent? Your soapbox is dead bro. Time to go to the virtual video game unemployment line. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Khan Hun Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 101	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:30:00 - [16] - Quote Legion looks good, like it will be what we all hoped dust would be. Graphics, depth, eve link, PVE and the works. I'm a PC gamer who bought a PS3 for dust since I love eve, ordinarily i'd be delighted. I just don't understand how anyone who has invested time and money in Dust can feel anything but betrayed right now. The game will be dead in a week. 90% of people playing it are playing it to support the future vision... which is now no longer a part of dust, but a different game. On what planet does it make sense to split a small dev team and work on two games? Its lunacy, the sooner dust dies the better for legion, but it'll leave a very sour taste in a lot of peoples mouths.
Banjo Robertson Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 194	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:30:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: I'm a person who isnt really upset abouit Legion for PC, I'm just upset that the Dust Keynote and Dust Progression presentations were basically all about Legion and not about Dust. I know its about the concept of Dust and what they want Dust to be, but its Legion they are talking about, not Dust. And I have a suspicion that the 'more in the sandbox for Dust514" presentation will also be about Legion. This is almost like the exact opposite of last year's fanfest where they probably promised too much for what they would do for Dust, where as this year they are basically saying absolutely Nothing about dust and only talking about Legion. Yet last year CCP promised the stars and delivered not much of it. This year is a 180 only having now, not soon, not soon tm, but now. Well, except that Legion isnt even in alpha, so Legion is coming in maybe 2 years? So they are feeling fine about talking about stuff we cant expect any time soon, which is Legion. I guess the assumption we should take from the Dust presentations is that we should not expect any updates to the game in the next year? They could have at least mentioned what they are thinking about doing for update 1.9, if that is even happening.
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 231	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:31:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. The backtracking begins
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 369	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:31:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. In all seriousness IWS, weren't we told that fanfest was going to be no more lofty goals, high concepts, and promises of "the future". That we'd get realistic developments and features for Dust? Everything so far has been about Legion, and there has been nothing in regards to Dust besides "we're still supporting it." On top of that, they keep describing Legion as a "prototype", where nothing is final and it's all mostly still up in the air. To me, what they've done at fanfest is exactly what they said they weren't going to do.
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:32:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. Bold talk BUT. You told us many things and we trust you. Now we see how dust should be in other game. With our ideas. Isnt that little ugly?! Making another game (on some mag i already read article you have demo already) from our sweat. Shame on you really. I dont care about elections and another YOUR excitement, you basicaly build game from our sweat and what is worst we will have anything from that here. "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."

lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 818	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:32:00 - [21] - Quote No offense IWS but I'm failing to see the point of your position at this time. I understand that you guys were meant to be the voice of reason from the players to keep Dust514 in check but part of that includes a connection between both sides of the playing field. A bridge if you will. This is the first post, hell, even the first comment I've seen from a CPM since the last elections. Scouring the forums just to see what we're talking about isn't really getting the information you need as only a percentage of players use these forums and I don't see you reaching out through many other of the many mediums players use. Your feedback to us is as infrequent and vague as the CCP employees. So what purpose are the CPM's really serving? Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 913	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:32:00 - [22] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: ** off IWS. Yeah go home IWS. There is nothing left for you guys here. PS: Quote:** Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. "Will Dust have Drone combat?" -"No. This is for Legion". R.I.P. Dust514 02 May 2014
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14527	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:32:00 - [23] - Quote Zion is recording all the tables. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 470	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:34:00 - [24] - Quote like we're really going to trust anything CPM has to say EVER. ! The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
DARK - IMPULSE Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:34:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. More BS coming out of your mouth. Okay. GET THIS. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYMORE. Enjoy the Burning tree FPS.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2298	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:34:00 - [26] - Quote It's not a game yet? THen why did they only talk about legion and didn't say a single thing about Dust on the Fanfest? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13308	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:34:00 - [27] - Quote Elections? LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHA My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1701	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:34:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: So are those CPM elections for Dust or Legion? I'll ask for a confirm during CPM panel. LOL CPM and LOL CPM Elections... Only a fool would give 2 flying **** about them and those...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14527	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:35:00 - [29] - Quote lee corwood wrote: No offense IWS but I'm failing to see the point of your position at this point. I understand that you guys were meant to be the voice of reason from the players to keep Dust514 in check but part of that includes a connection between both sides of the playing field. A bridge if you will. This is the first post, hell, even the first comment I've seen from a CPM since the last elections. Scouring the forums just to see what we're talking about isn't really getting the information you need as only a percentage of players use these forums and I don't see you reaching out through many other of the many mediums players use. Your feedback to us is as infrequent and vague as the CCP employees. So what purpose are the CPM's really serving? Voice of reason to CCP and to be a player representation (which no matter how csm and future cpm candidates try to sell the idea that it is representing players; its not. Most players are capable of selling themselves.) Let one not be fooled that the CPM was most accurate in predictions on player reactions over this event. CCP did listen; and they where not lying to themselves either. When they went forward. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 862	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:39:00 - [30] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: ** off IWS. Agreed, I'll be happy to see this ** leave the CPM. Might just run myself. Tanks - Balancing Turrets

Banjo Robertson Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 194	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:45:00 - [31] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. Its more the fact that they spend the entire 15 tiny minutes of dust keynote to talk about something thats not even alpha instead of even talking about what they have planned for 1.9....
Luny Homega warravens Final Resolution. 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:45:00 - [32] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Voice of reason to CCP and to be a player representation (which no matter how csm and future cpm candidates try to sell the idea that it is representing players; its not. Most players are capable of selling themselves.) Let one not be fooled that the CPM was most accurate in predictions on player reactions over this event. CCP did listen; and they where not lying to themselves either. When they went forward. well. Preventive post would have helped a lot, we are not stupid, talk to us. make forum poll, and we will respond, the current shitstorm is their fault, we can only look at them to fix it, and the sad part is that you have something to do with it, even if ist not your fault, responsibility of CSM and all that
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2520	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:47:00 - [33] - Quote This is a repeat of fanfest 2013, with a twist of this time Dust is going to be on PC. GG CCP. Also, read my signature fools! HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes. "I tried so hard and got so far.... but in the end it doesnt even matter."
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 820	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:48:00 - [34] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: lee corwood wrote: No offense IWS but I'm failing to see the point of your position at this point. I understand that you guys were meant to be the voice of reason from the players to keep Dust514 in check but part of that includes a connection between both sides of the playing field. A bridge if you will. This is the first post, hell, even the first comment I've seen from a CPM since the last elections. Scouring the forums just to see what we're talking about isn't really getting the information you need as only a percentage of players use these forums and I don't see you reaching out through many other of the many mediums players use. Your feedback to us is as infrequent and vague as the CCP employees. So what purpose are the CPM's really serving? Voice of reason to CCP and to be a player representation (which no matter how csm and future cpm candidates try to sell the idea that it is representing players; its not. Most players are capable of selling themselves.) Let one not be fooled that the CPM was most accurate in predictions on player reactions over this event. CCP did listen; and they where not lying to themselves either. When they went forward. So CPM said, "Hey CCP, bad idea". CCP said, "Yeah, we expect that". And then it happened and everyone sat around the table in silence? Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 56	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:50:00 - [35] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: This is a repeat of fanfest 2013, with a twist of this time Dust is going to be on PC. GG CCP. Also, read my signature fools! Yep. Amarr Victor
mollerz 3347	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:51:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Legion isn't a game yet. No alpha no beta yet either nor even confirmation if confirmation of t makes it to game status. Legions features are not even solidified or fully goaled yet, it is still finding its focus. No dates on anything. The irc misquote in reality about character transfer is a stament of not knowing yet. @CCP legion progression via CCP Atli and CCP Saberwing Dust 514 may continue further support as to what we don't know yet. CPM summit soon.and elections hopefully. More as I get more hard confirms. HAHAA. Why would you waste one more second of your life for CCP you patsy. Have some self respect and walk away. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13319	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:52:00 - [37] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: lee corwood wrote: No offense IWS but I'm failing to see the point of your position at this point. I understand that you guys were meant to be the voice of reason from the players to keep Dust514 in check but part of that includes a connection between both sides of the playing field. A bridge if you will. This is the first post, hell, even the first comment I've seen from a CPM since the last elections. Scouring the forums just to see what we're talking about isn't really getting the information you need as only a percentage of players use these forums and I don't see you reaching out through many other of the many mediums players use. Your feedback to us is as infrequent and vague as the CCP employees. So what purpose are the CPM's really serving? Voice of reason to CCP and to be a player representation (which no matter how csm and future cpm candidates try to sell the idea that it is representing players; its not. Most players are capable of selling themselves.) Let one not be fooled that the CPM was most accurate in predictions on player reactions over this event. CCP did listen; and they where not lying to themselves either. When they went forward. So CPM said, "Hey CCP, bad idea". CCP said, "Yeah, we expect that". And then it happened and everyone sat around the table in silence? What do you think the entire year of CPM - CSM relations actually was? My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 820	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:58:00 - [38] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: lee corwood wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: lee corwood wrote: No offense IWS but I'm failing to see the point of your position at this point. I understand that you guys were meant to be the voice of reason from the players to keep Dust514 in check but part of that includes a connection between both sides of the playing field. A bridge if you will. This is the first post, hell, even the first comment I've seen from a CPM since the last elections. Scouring the forums just to see what we're talking about isn't really getting the information you need as only a percentage of players use these forums and I don't see you reaching out through many other of the many mediums players use. Your feedback to us is as infrequent and vague as the CCP employees. So what purpose are the CPM's really serving? Voice of reason to CCP and to be a player representation (which no matter how csm and future cpm candidates try to sell the idea that it is representing players; its not. Most players are capable of selling themselves.) Let one not be fooled that the CPM was most accurate in predictions on player reactions over this event. CCP did listen; and they where not lying to themselves either. When they went forward. So CPM said, "Hey CCP, bad idea". CCP said, "Yeah, we expect that". And then it happened and everyone sat around the table in silence? What do you think the entire year of CPM - CSM relations actually was? Well its good to know the CPM/CCP/Player relationship works exactly like my (US) government. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.


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