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Bolt Immortal
King and Queens
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Posted - 2014.05.02 10:50:00 -
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Nyain San the most know protostomping corp goes around protostomping people and sometimes the whole red team are protostopmers so why not make a system which groups you with your level of gear like a MLT user with MLT but you need 3 items of that gear level to qualify for that gear level but if a person uses a proto item but other stuff MLT they go to STD battles like for example Mlt= Mlt battles MLT+ 1 proto= adv battles Mlt+1adv=STD battles MLt=1STD=Mlt battles like that so people don't get protostomped by those jerks. |
Vect-r
Vault of the Void
33
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 -
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I don't know the full depth of the power of proto suits. I'm new. But, if you're saying that protosuits are really screwing up the game for other people, then why hasn't anyone been brave enough to say: "Just get rid of the proto suits".
Probably, the ones who do have em are defending proto suits.
and two, those who have been playing way too much to get back at the proto-suiters don't want to lose the golden opportunity just yet. They've worked to hard for revenge. But to that I say, revenge only brings more revenge. So kill off the proto.
Not liking DUST so much so far, but hey, its free.
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KILLER 20965
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
3
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:16:00 -
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Vect-r wrote:I don't know the full depth of the power of proto suits. I'm new. But, if you're saying that protosuits are really screwing up the game for other people, then why hasn't anyone been brave enough to say: "Just get rid of the proto suits".
Probably, the ones who do have em are defending proto suits.
and two, those who have been playing way too much to get back at the proto-suiters don't want to lose the golden opportunity just yet. They've worked to hard for revenge. But to that I say, revenge only brings more revenge. So kill off the proto.
I and everyone else worked long and hard to earn the right to use our proto suits. Taking away the proto suits wont fix much, using an advanced suit with proto can be just as effective in the right hands.
Yes, pubstomping is bad but the problem isn't the suits, it's the people using them and how the teams are setup. If CCP would make it so games are balanced based on skill level, it would fix the problem. Also I think that fixing the ability for top level corps/teams/squads to q-sync would make public games much more enjoyable for almost everyone involved, well except for the pubstompers.
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Z9XERO
C0NDUITS
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:41:00 -
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Vect-r wrote:I don't know the full depth of the power of proto suits. I'm new. But, if you're saying that protosuits are really screwing up the game for other people, then why hasn't anyone been brave enough to say: "Just get rid of the proto suits".
Probably, the ones who do have em are defending proto suits.
and two, those who have been playing way too much to get back at the proto-suiters don't want to lose the golden opportunity just yet. They've worked to hard for revenge. But to that I say, revenge only brings more revenge. So kill off the proto.
Yeah i mean they got rid of all the proto/advanced tanks so get rid of some of the suits
I see a million faces ... i recognize them all..... one by one they all become a number as they fall..
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Z9XERO
C0NDUITS
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:50:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:Vect-r wrote:I don't know the full depth of the power of proto suits. I'm new. But, if you're saying that protosuits are really screwing up the game for other people, then why hasn't anyone been brave enough to say: "Just get rid of the proto suits".
Probably, the ones who do have em are defending proto suits.
and two, those who have been playing way too much to get back at the proto-suiters don't want to lose the golden opportunity just yet. They've worked to hard for revenge. But to that I say, revenge only brings more revenge. So kill off the proto. I and everyone else worked long and hard to earn the right to use our proto suits. Taking away the proto suits wont fix much, using an advanced suit with proto can be just as effective in the right hands. Yes, pubstomping is bad but the problem isn't the suits, it's the people using them and how the teams are setup. If CCP would make it so games are balanced based on skill level, it would fix the problem. Also I think that fixing the ability for top level corps/teams/squads to q-sync would make public games much more enjoyable for almost everyone involved, well except for the pubstompers. Killer, we didn't work hard at all..... seriously, playing this game isn't hard work and people are losers for thinking so .... you wasted your time to get pro suits ....... JUST to loose them in battle and for what........... love ya man but think about it
I see a million faces ... i recognize them all..... one by one they all become a number as they fall..
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Bolt Immortal
King and Queens
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:40:00 -
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Vect-r wrote:I don't know the full depth of the power of proto suits. I'm new. But, if you're saying that protosuits are really screwing up the game for other people, then why hasn't anyone been brave enough to say: "Just get rid of the proto suits".
Probably, the ones who do have em are defending proto suits.
and two, those who have been playing way too much to get back at the proto-suiters don't want to lose the golden opportunity just yet. They've worked to hard for revenge. But to that I say, revenge only brings more revenge. So kill off the proto. I'm still on MLT+1STD but I want to keep the proto items so that we can have like a ranking gameplay. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
201
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Posted - 2014.05.09 01:54:00 -
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They should just have a mode where it's militia gear only but you can only play in it once every 20 minutes (so as to encourge people to play in other modes as well).
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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
54
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Posted - 2014.05.10 08:18:00 -
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Bolt Immortal wrote:Nyain San the most know protostomping corp goes around protostomping people and sometimes the whole red team are protostopmers so why not make a system which groups you with your level of gear like a MLT user with MLT but you need 3 items of that gear level to qualify for that gear level but if a person uses a proto item but other stuff MLT they go to STD battles like for example Mlt= Mlt battles MLT+ 1 proto= adv battles Mlt+1adv=STD battles MLt=1STD=Mlt battles like that so people don't get protostomped by those jerks.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan
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Posted - 2014.05.10 15:08:00 -
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Bolt Immortal wrote:Nyain San the most know protostomping corp goes around protostomping people and sometimes the whole red team are protostopmers so why not make a system which groups you with your level of gear like a MLT user with MLT but you need 3 items of that gear level to qualify for that gear level but if a person uses a proto item but other stuff MLT they go to STD battles like for example Mlt= Mlt battles MLT+ 1 proto= adv battles Mlt+1adv=STD battles MLt=1STD=Mlt battles like that so people don't get protostomped by those jerks.
It was a tedious task accumulating all this SP to go to the things I want to use in this game, so I'll still spam Proto whenever I want. Being honest, I still find pubstomping as MLT a fun activity though.
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KILLER 20965
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
11
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Posted - 2014.05.16 12:24:00 -
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Bolt Immortal wrote:Why not make a system which groups you with your level of gear like a MLT user with MLT but you need 3 items of that gear level to qualify for that gear level but if a person uses a proto item but other stuff MLT they go to STD battles like for example Mlt= Mlt battles MLT+ 1 proto= adv battles Mlt+1adv=STD battles MLt=1STD=Mlt battles like that so people don't get protostomped by those jerks. There aren't enough people to make a system like that.
How dust players feel...
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Thokk Nightshade
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
369
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Posted - 2014.05.19 23:34:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Bolt Immortal wrote:Nyain San the most know protostomping corp goes around protostomping people and sometimes the whole red team are protostopmers so why not make a system which groups you with your level of gear like a MLT user with MLT but you need 3 items of that gear level to qualify for that gear level but if a person uses a proto item but other stuff MLT they go to STD battles like for example Mlt= Mlt battles MLT+ 1 proto= adv battles Mlt+1adv=STD battles MLt=1STD=Mlt battles like that so people don't get protostomped by those jerks. It was a tedious task accumulating all this SP to go to the things I want to use in this game, so I'll still spam Proto whenever I want. Being honest, I still find pubstomping as MLT a fun activity though.
yeah, Really hard work there. So now you just run around being dicks to people and chasing noobs away from the game. The people you play against hate it because they are getting their asses handed to them without even the slightest chance of fighting back. The people on your side hate it because you guys are all running around wiping everything off the map while the people not in your crew are going 1-0 KDR and getting like 50 WP. It is no fun for anybody. Having an 80 clone match and seeing it end up with one team still having 60+ clones, with two Nyian (San or Chan, doesn't matter) running around in maxed out tanks going 27-0 takes every ounce of joy out of the game.
Maybe it was just luck, but after fanfest I ran for over a week without running into a squad of you guys. Sure, I would run across the occasional one or two, but not a full blown q-synced team like before. It is the most fun I've had in this game since beta. Now, the last few days, it's right back to the same old crap.
I want to say I'm not knocking you for using your gear. You have it and have every right to use it. But honestly, how bad is it to lose a couple souped up suits when you know in a day you are going to get another 10-20 million ISK dropped into your personal account? You don't have the same risk/reward as everyone else because you can run full Proto eternally and never run out of funds. I have to pick and choose when to run any of my proto gear, because if I lose it, I can't afford to just back and buy another 10-20-however many suits. I don't have Daddy Warbucks constantly feeding me money to support me.
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:21:00 -
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Now now children.
Killing proto is how you get good at this game.
Edit: And Thokk Nightshade, killing Nyain San is also how you get good at this game. I'll go positive in a stomp like that. Lately? I ALWAYS go positive thanks to the 1.8 respec.
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Thokk Nightshade
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:17:00 -
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I didn't say it wasn't possible. However, read the whole text of what I'm saying. Their risk vs reward is much lower because they are getting millions dropped into their accts on a regular basis. However, I will say it is kind of hard to go positive when you spawn and there are three guys with HMGS and a freaking tank blasting away at the spot you just spawned on..... multiple times a game.
OUKH. Then. Now. Forever. Would you like to more? Help the Caldari win the day. Look up OUKH in the chat channel
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3453
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Posted - 2014.05.22 18:42:00 -
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Bolt Immortal wrote:Nyain San the most know protostomping corp goes around protostomping people and sometimes the whole red team are protostopmers so why not make a system which groups you with your level of gear like a MLT user with MLT but you need 3 items of that gear level to qualify for that gear level but if a person uses a proto item but other stuff MLT they go to STD battles like for example Mlt= Mlt battles MLT+ 1 proto= adv battles Mlt+1adv=STD battles MLt=1STD=Mlt battles like that so people don't get protostomped by those jerks. Meta Level match making will be a GÇ£ThingGÇ¥ in Legion, for the formal matches. In the Sandbox scavenging areas all bets are off.
Maybe once they have the system developed for Legion, some aspects of it can be implemented in DUST.
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.23 02:49:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Bolt Immortal wrote:Nyain San the most know protostomping corp goes around protostomping people and sometimes the whole red team are protostopmers so why not make a system which groups you with your level of gear like a MLT user with MLT but you need 3 items of that gear level to qualify for that gear level but if a person uses a proto item but other stuff MLT they go to STD battles like for example Mlt= Mlt battles MLT+ 1 proto= adv battles Mlt+1adv=STD battles MLt=1STD=Mlt battles like that so people don't get protostomped by those jerks. Meta Level match making will be a GÇ£ThingGÇ¥ in Legion, for the formal matches. In the Sandbox scavenging areas all bets are off. Maybe once they have the system developed for Legion, some aspects of it can be implemented in DUST.
That would be really nice. I know they said they aren't doing anything as far as additional tools/toys for Dust, but this is a very basic thing that honestly shouldn't be that hard to implement.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Michael Arck
4475
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Posted - 2014.05.23 23:33:00 -
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My friend, if you are ever in a team of organized blues, you will see that Nyain San's protostomping endeavors would come to a halt. It takes teamwork to beat NS or anybody halfway decent in battle. A squad of NS is basically a squad of shock troopers. They hit hard and fast, causing people to give up or run in fear. If the whole team united and gave them a good punch in the mouth, so to speak, they would see the same thing that happened to them happen to NS.
Keep fighting hard against them. Look at as training. If you want to get into PC as well, theres no doubt that you will have run ins with them.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
149
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Posted - 2014.06.01 04:31:00 -
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We need a game mode where it's mixed at the beginning no squads just team vs. team if you leave the round you can't join a new one for 5-10 min ( avoiding join then leave till your on the " right team " ) and have the leaderboards only rank that game mode, see if the "good" players" still hold up) Forcing good team play while avoiding q-syncing proto stomping.
I know the argument will be ... What if I get disconnected? Blah blah blah happens like what once or twice a week? Only wanna play with your corp? Fine it's called PC doit, stop paying someone else to fight them or pay protection so you won't have to. What about orbitals?... Score one yourself I doit solo every day.
Lonewolf till I die
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Meiko Shiraki
A.P.E.X BRUTE FORCE
13
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Posted - 2014.06.01 18:01:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:My friend, if you are ever in a team of organized blues, you will see that Nyain San's protostomping endeavors would come to a halt. It takes teamwork to beat NS or anybody halfway decent in battle. A squad of NS is basically a squad of shock troopers. They hit hard and fast, causing people to give up or run in fear. If the whole team united and gave them a good punch in the mouth, so to speak, they would see the same thing that happened to them happen to NS.
Keep fighting hard against them. Look at as training. If you want to get into PC as well, theres no doubt that you will have run ins with them. This 100%. So when I started I was dying 5-10 times a match and it really sucked. Sometimes more if the enemy team had a couple of squads going. But when you're in a squad with a good captain then everything changes. I went to dying 2-3 times, ran positive kd/r and could reach 1000 wp in a good match.
Running in a squad and using teamwork is like night and day compared to running solo. It makes Dust a lot of fun. |
Ironyimation Inception
Pandemonium Latino Caps and Mercs
166
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Posted - 2014.06.02 12:58:00 -
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Play ambush more, I'm not kidding. If you want to get good you need to play ambush. Most of the time there is at least one organized squad and it gives you experience fighting against good players. Once you start getting better gear, learn the game, and can think like they think you'll be good. Most of the time if I'm solo I can get around 20 kills and 2 or 3 deaths. Learn 2 Strafe Learn 2 SP Learn 2 Flank Also, git gud
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.06.03 23:25:00 -
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i hate protostompers, im at most a full advanced logi.
an idea iv been playing with is give people an option.. like..
- rookie = militia and standard suits, no vehicles other then LAV. 50% isk gain
- novice = militia, standard & Advanced suits. all militia grade vehicles 75% isk of total isk they could have gotten by going into highest
- Experienced = All suits all vehicles. 100% isk
all SP gains remain the same. half the problem is newberrys join and get into the game only to be mown down by protos and then leave the game so we need some separation to allow SP gain and skill/knowledge gain for the newberrys.
Nanite Injectors! Nanite Injectors Everywhere!
Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
25
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Posted - 2014.06.03 23:27:00 -
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Ironyimation Inception wrote:Play ambush more, I'm not kidding. If you want to get good you need to play ambush. Most of the time there is at least one organized squad and it gives you experience fighting against good players. Once you start getting better gear, learn the game, and can think like they think you'll be good. Most of the time if I'm solo I can get around 20 kills and 2 or 3 deaths. Learn 2 Strafe Learn 2 SP Learn 2 Flank Also, git gud
1. cant sp when getting proto stomped. 2. cant Git Gud with out SP. 3. cant flank with out knowing the map which is hard when death is most likely certain and instant for newberrys 4. see poitns 1 2 and 3 again.
Nanite Injectors! Nanite Injectors Everywhere!
Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.06.05 08:27:00 -
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Not true. I have beaten Nyain san in pubs, so does that make me worse?
Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.06.05 08:27:00 -
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Not true. I have beaten Nyain san in pubs, so does that make me worse?
Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
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Ironyimation Inception
SLAYERS UNITE.
166
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Posted - 2014.06.05 14:15:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Ironyimation Inception wrote:Play ambush more, I'm not kidding. If you want to get good you need to play ambush. Most of the time there is at least one organized squad and it gives you experience fighting against good players. Once you start getting better gear, learn the game, and can think like they think you'll be good. Most of the time if I'm solo I can get around 20 kills and 2 or 3 deaths. Learn 2 Strafe Learn 2 SP Learn 2 Flank Also, git gud 1. cant sp when getting proto stomped. 2. cant Git Gud with out SP. 3. cant flank with out knowing the map which is hard when death is most likely certain and instant for newberrys 4. see poitns 1 2 and 3 again.
1, 3)Squads exist for a reason, and we all had to start somewhere, including the corps that run full proto 24/7. Not every match is a complete crush. Probably every other match the my entire team is MLT and the enemy team is MLT, too. Newberries have time to explore and practice.
1, 2) SP comes no matter what, literally. Once I was just running around the map doing parkour, and still received 6,000 SP.
Every game mode will have organized squads playing on them, some may be good, and some may be bad. No matter what you do, you'll have to adapt to it or you'll just be crushed. For newberries this may be getting killed 20 times in one match, and getting 1 assist. They have to grow their skills one way or another, and currently our 'Academy' and 'Tutorial' systems obviously aren't doing it, so they need to do it while fighting 6 man squads, unfortunately.
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Explosives Fanatic, 5 Man Remote Explosive Kill
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kanon Jeager
DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.09 04:37:00 -
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Ive had problems with this protostomping crap before. after i finally grinded my way up to and advanced suite and am now one skill level away from my first proto suite ive learned a few things in order to deal with proto's.
my advice? know your maps. figure out the nooks and cranny's. NEVER try and go toe to toe with a proto. keep moving and stay hidden, they cant shoot what they cant see. (yeah, you might run into one on accident, try and kill him but just accept your fate).
ANY proto stomping team can be beaten by strategic placement of Uplinks.(once you get the ability to carry them)
if you know your facing proto stompers, run starter fits unless you have something you know can kill a proto.
Have "fodder" vehicles. just basic LAV's, HAV's and dropships that are inexpensive.
personally, i role between sniper and rail rifle fits. if its proto stomper. i roll sniper all match. dont care how tough the armor is, head shots hurt
I ask alot of stupid questions, Dont hate, educate.
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