DUST Search - [NERF] Rail Rifle and other Squid Weapons

Mahal Daj wrote:

TL;DR - Without nerfing the numbers, add a laserbeam to the weapon that would begin as soon as the trigger was held during the pre-fire sequence.

Right, right... It's a glorious piece of squid-tech. It's as stylish as the Rohk, as powerful as a cruise missile, and as fearsome as a... squid (real squids are scary)

But I die at this ratio: 20% my own grenades, 20% excellent players, 60% rail rifles; and that seems a little strange to me.

It is also a weapon that doesn't deserve to be nerfed into oblivion. it's effect on manipulation of the range of combat has been profound, and I believe, very beneficial to the overall gameplay. It is also a great weapon when the Caldari didn't get much stuff at the beginning (swarm launcher isn't really that exciting).

So I propose that to balance the Caldari weapons, while at the same time maintaining their awesome capability (and actually doing something that I would like, I carry the MagSEC SMG a lot), I propose the following:

Do not change the stats or range
Do not change the charge up time
However, during the charge up, and during subsequent firing, have the weapon emit a laserbeam type aiming technology.

This would give a single breath of time to react to the massive barrage of high-range damage coming your way, it would give a unique and canon-flavored character to the weapons, isn't a numbers-nerf (everybody hates those), and would be something that I think everyone could enjoy.

Please discuss!

Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!

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Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 56	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:44:00 - [1] - Quote TL;DR - Without nerfing the numbers, add a laserbeam to the weapon that would begin as soon as the trigger was held during the pre-fire sequence. Right, right... It's a glorious piece of squid-tech. It's as stylish as the Rohk, as powerful as a cruise missile, and as fearsome as a... squid (real squids are scary) But I die at this ratio: 20% my own grenades, 20% excellent players, 60% rail rifles; and that seems a little strange to me. It is also a weapon that doesn't deserve to be nerfed into oblivion. it's effect on manipulation of the range of combat has been profound, and I believe, very beneficial to the overall gameplay. It is also a great weapon when the Caldari didn't get much stuff at the beginning (swarm launcher isn't really that exciting). So I propose that to balance the Caldari weapons, while at the same time maintaining their awesome capability (and actually doing something that I would like, I carry the MagSEC SMG a lot), I propose the following: Do not change the stats or range Do not change the charge up time However, during the charge up, and during subsequent firing, have the weapon emit a laserbeam type aiming technology. This would give a single breath of time to react to the massive barrage of high-range damage coming your way, it would give a unique and canon-flavored character to the weapons, isn't a numbers-nerf (everybody hates those), and would be something that I think everyone could enjoy. Please discuss! Boost your squad's points by 40%, learn to use the Squad Wheel! I provide training: 1M isk: 90 Minutes of Basic Command
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2890	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:48:00 - [2] - Quote First off why should we listen to someone who regularly blows himself up Second why do you think giving us a laser sight is going to help you at all, is this laser sight going to trigger the hit detection on your HUD so you know where we are? The only way it will point someone out is if they are already in your field of view in which case you should see them already and finally why should we listen to someone who blows himself up a fifth of the time? I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 788	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:07:00 - [3] - Quote 1. im not sure where the term squid came from for a first person shooter. never heard that before. 2. if we have a laser it should be a range finder, we already have them built into guns but itd be nice to give the range, and suit info its own hud box. 3. the rail rifle was nerfed already. i didnt need it to be nerfed the first time and i dont want it nerfed again despite the fact that im not playing anymore, if anything gets nerfed it should be the combat rifle or a noticeable plasma rifle buff. 4. rails are gallente oriented too, if were gonna discuss the rail use the term hybrid because its in the hybrid family with the blaster. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 307	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:11:00 - [4] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: 1. im not sure where the term squid came from for a first person shooter. never heard that before. Caldari morphed into Calamari. Calamari is squid.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2492	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:13:00 - [5] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: 1. im not sure where the term squid came from for a first person shooter. never heard that before. Caldari = Calamari Edit: dammit lv2spd Nerdier than thou
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 824	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:13:00 - [6] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: But I die at this ratio: 20% my own grenades, 20% excellent players, 60% rail rifles; and that seems a little strange to me. Is there any overlap between 2 and 3? Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1173	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:30:00 - [7] - Quote Rail rifle actually seems pretty balanced to me, I have a hard time punching through shields but can hit armor pretty good. Now the combat rifle, that thing kills me unless Im shooting from the edge of my RR range, anything closer and I'm dead before I can even charge up. I find it impossible to fight it is easily equipped by scouts who can close the distance fast and heavies who just have more hp than me...not like it would matter... So should we Nerf CR too?
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1749	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:31:00 - [8] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: 1. im not sure where the term squid came from for a first person shooter. never heard that before. Not sure where it comes from myself but people I'm familiar with use it. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 819	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:39:00 - [9] - Quote OP was confusing, something about adding a laser points to 'Squid' weapons? Are you allowed to say that? I think that's racist. Is it? I'm fairly sure that's racist. Freakin' frogs. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 658	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:02:00 - [10] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Rail rifle actually seems pretty balanced to me, I have a hard time punching through shields but can hit armor pretty good. Now the combat rifle, that thing kills me unless Im shooting from the edge of my RR range, anything closer and I'm dead before I can even charge up. I find it impossible to fight it is easily equipped by scouts who can close the distance fast and heavies who just have more hp than me...not like it would matter... So should we Nerf CR too? Yes, or AR and ScR go back to how they were before the nerf. RR and CR are clearly the superior weapons. Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?

keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 201	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:04:00 - [11] - Quote No one cares. Did you get railed once before deciding to rail against the railgun. Sheeeshhhhh. ---$--- I is now scout, invisible hunter by day and christmas tree by night. ---$---
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5749	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:10:00 - [12] - Quote I'm not even sure what your point in the thread was but I'm all for Nerfing Caldari easy mode weapons.
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 178	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:51:00 - [13] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: TL;DR - Without nerfing the numbers, add a laserbeam to the weapon that would begin as soon as the trigger was held during the pre-fire sequence. Right, right... It's a glorious piece of squid-tech. It's as stylish as the Rohk, as powerful as a cruise missile, and as fearsome as a... squid (real squids are scary) But I die at this ratio: 20% my own grenades, 20% excellent players, 60% rail rifles; and that seems a little strange to me. It is also a weapon that doesn't deserve to be nerfed into oblivion. it's effect on manipulation of the range of combat has been profound, and I believe, very beneficial to the overall gameplay. It is also a great weapon when the Caldari didn't get much stuff at the beginning (swarm launcher isn't really that exciting). So I propose that to balance the Caldari weapons, while at the same time maintaining their awesome capability (and actually doing something that I would like, I carry the MagSEC SMG a lot), I propose the following: Do not change the stats or range Do not change the charge up time However, during the charge up, and during subsequent firing, have the weapon emit a laserbeam type aiming technology. This would give a single breath of time to react to the massive barrage of high-range damage coming your way, it would give a unique and canon-flavored character to the weapons, isn't a numbers-nerf (everybody hates those), and would be something that I think everyone could enjoy. Please discuss! They should fix rail tech first. All of the rail weapons in the game have a baaaaaaaaaaad habit of firing blanks, which is ******* infuriating. Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4359	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:55:00 - [14] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: .....But I die at this ratio: 20% my own grenades, 20% excellent players, 60% rail rifles; and that seems a little strange to me.!..... Weird cause I die about 60% of the time to combat rifles..... Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 8	Posted - 2014.05.02 01:51:00 - [15] - Quote Maybe because you're gallente genius, you're armored based! A rail rifle has extra damage towards armor based suits. STOP SAYING THINGS NEED TO BE NERFED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't even use the rail rifle and often hate versing it but now that I have my caldari assault which is SHIELD BASED, I rarely die from this weapon. Scrambler rifles obliterate me but you don't see me whining and saying " CCP can you pwease nerf the scwambler wifle cause I'm a little girl that keeps getting obliterated cause I don't know how to take cover?" Learn how to take cover more, most rail rifles are used by caldari suits so spec into a scrambler rifle then you might actually have a chance if you're a half way decent player. Everything is balanced now so stop whining the whole nerf this and nerf that is getting pretty old bud!


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