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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:07:00 -
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I am sure there are many different opinions on this and I am sincerely curious to read them.
Can a fatty with an HMG have an honorable, skillful kill?
Does a shotgun kill require skill?
A tank kill in any shape or form?
Explosives are out?
No combat rfile kill requires any skill and is dishonorable?
Rail rifles? I'm guessing no.
Is a skillful kill only someone in a starter fit standing right in front of you killing you with a MLT assault rifle? Or in a gimped assault suit? Doing it in a lower eHP scout suit seems dirty.
I am partly being sarcastic, and partly really curious what our community feels killing with honor and skill really means.
An aspiring scrub wants to know.
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1455
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:11:00 -
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Who knows? It changes every other month.
I guess Flaylocks and Ion pistols are in right now though.
Plasma Cannon probably.
Nova Knives I'd say.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2737
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:13:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I am sure there are many different opinions on this and I am sincerely curious to read them.
Can a fatty with an HMG have an honorable, skillful kill?
Does a shotgun kill require skill?
A tank kill in any shape or form?
Explosives are out?
No combat rfile kill requires any skill and is dishonorable?
Rail rifles? I'm guessing no.
Is a skillful kill only someone in a starter fit standing right in front of you killing you with a MLT assault rifle? Or in a gimped assault suit? Doing it in a lower eHP scout suit seems dirty.
I am partly being sarcastic, and partly really curious what our community feels killing with honor and skill really means.
An aspiring scrub wants to know.
Victory is written by the victor.
If you kill someome, to you it is skillfull, to your victim it is the scrubbiest death possible.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
88
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:14:00 -
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Speed tanked Scouts with Scrambler Pistols are Hard Mode.
Plasma Cannons are a close second.
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
125
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:16:00 -
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I consider skill to be "killing in a way that others find difficult" like firing my rail rifle through the crack between two crates to headshot a cloaked scout from about 60-70 meters away. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10051
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:17:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I am sure there are many different opinions on this and I am sincerely curious to read them.
Can a fatty with an HMG have an honorable, skillful kill?
Does a shotgun kill require skill?
A tank kill in any shape or form?
Explosives are out?
No combat rfile kill requires any skill and is dishonorable?
Rail rifles? I'm guessing no.
Is a skillful kill only someone in a starter fit standing right in front of you killing you with a MLT assault rifle? Or in a gimped assault suit? Doing it in a lower eHP scout suit seems dirty.
I am partly being sarcastic, and partly really curious what our community feels killing with honor and skill really means.
An aspiring scrub wants to know.
Dude I do 360 head shots in my tank and chain those to reverse poplock 1080's
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
598
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:20:00 -
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It seriously makes me cringe when people use the word skill in a video game |
Cotsy
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:24:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I am sure there are many different opinions on this and I am sincerely curious to read them.
Can a fatty with an HMG have an honorable, skillful kill?
Does a shotgun kill require skill?
A tank kill in any shape or form?
Explosives are out?
No combat rfile kill requires any skill and is dishonorable?
Rail rifles? I'm guessing no.
Is a skillful kill only someone in a starter fit standing right in front of you killing you with a MLT assault rifle? Or in a gimped assault suit? Doing it in a lower eHP scout suit seems dirty.
I am partly being sarcastic, and partly really curious what our community feels killing with honor and skill really means.
An aspiring scrub wants to know.
Look, the opinion of skillful kill is not shared by all but the basics are: using strategy, patience, positioning (movement, or knowing surroundings), awareness (whats around you, whose around you), and execution (ie doing what you want to do, or aiming) to get a kill. Now for each weapon and suit the opinions differ even more, a heavy would favor positioning and awareness more, while a scout will favor strategy and skillful movement (as not to be detected before he got into appropriate range, minus cloaks ofc).
Explosives can be used skillfully yes, tank killing yes, rail rifles and other weapons (see above) yes.
It's about how players get their advantages (and not SP based ones) and if you can use movement, positioning, and knowledge to gain an advantage (could be as simple get getting higher ground, or using cover) then that is skill in positioning if done intentionally and not dumb spawn luck. T
here are varying degrees but the type of weapon, suit, SP etc should not be a factor in a skillful kill its about the play and not as well the final result. Make the right decisions, there's a good chance you will be rewarded. |
Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
2490
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:24:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:It seriously makes me cringe when people use the word skill in a video game
Why?
It's not a very useful skill, but it's a skill nonetheless. What other word should we be using to describe the difference, for example, between someone who can aim with a controller and someone who cannot?
Nerdier than thou
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
657
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:26:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:I consider skill to be "killing in a way that others find difficult" like firing my rail rifle through the crack between two crates to headshot a cloaked scout from about 60-70 meters away.
Lol he said rail rifle and skill in the same sentence..
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2888
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:26:00 -
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You have to launch an LAV through the air, jump out of it, do a back flip, make a cup of tea while still in the air, land silently behind the enemy, pants him, and then 360 no scope head shot him
Thats a skillful kill
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
3186
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:I am sure there are many different opinions on this and I am sincerely curious to read them.
Can a fatty with an HMG have an honorable, skillful kill?
Does a shotgun kill require skill?
A tank kill in any shape or form?
Explosives are out?
No combat rfile kill requires any skill and is dishonorable?
Rail rifles? I'm guessing no.
Is a skillful kill only someone in a starter fit standing right in front of you killing you with a MLT assault rifle? Or in a gimped assault suit? Doing it in a lower eHP scout suit seems dirty.
I am partly being sarcastic, and partly really curious what our community feels killing with honor and skill really means.
An aspiring scrub wants to know.
Dude I do 360 head shots in my tank and chain those to reverse poplock 1080's
Tony Hawks 514.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
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Mahal Daj
Mahal Tactical Enterprises
56
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:31:00 -
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I consider a skillful kill to be one where a weapon is used for its intended purposes to great effect, or it's used outside of it's intended purpose to hilarious or outstanding effect.
I feel like there are very few skillful kills with the core rifles, but jumpshots count.
A lot of times I get mowed down with an AR at 35 meters when I cross a field without looking... That's not a skillful kill, that's a stupid death.
to recount one of my own skillful kills: Recently I was piloting a dropship, and another dropship (good pilot, forgot who) had me at the perfect angle to slam down onto me (whale-flop). He didn't know I was watching him, because I had a gunner firing onto ground troops. At the right time, I hit the AB and the hardeners, nosed up into him and caused his dropship to flip into a pylon, destroying the dropship and getting an instant kill. Suprise! I imagine as someone with the patience to pilot a dropship as well as he was flying (he would have done the same to me), he had to appreciate the skill, timing, use of equipment (without the hardener he would have killed me), and poise that it took to score the kill.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
13242
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:33:00 -
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Getting a headshot on someone jumping from a tower or MCC, using the front railgun on your ADS.
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SPACE SYPHILIS
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:35:00 -
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Yes anyone can have a skillful kill. It depends on the situation. If you are by yourself and you are facing one opponent in a perfect environment, then yes there is a such a thing as a skillful kill. I have been in to many situations to count where I am about to finish off the person i am soling and get killed by another player, let be a sniper, SG, or unknown. It is frustrating to have victory all but assured and then have it taken away. You just have to let the last game go and look forward to the next, I am still learning that lesson, but someday I will have the will just to let things be. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3592
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:37:00 -
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Anything outside a tank
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10056
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:55:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Anything outside a tank
I don't know I think beating 2-3 HAV at the same time is always pretty skilful.
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Horizen Kenpachi
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
351
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:59:00 -
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I finished off a non repped tank with a hmg the lols i had
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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DozersMouse XIII
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:59:00 -
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when you win a great 1 vs 1 head on trying to counter/out strafe your opponent
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
788
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:00:00 -
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large railguns are the closest thing to a sniper rifle we have in the game so if you can lead targets at long range theres always that.
breach shotguns with the 1-2 combo take some skill if your running through a group of people.
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Bizar Wolf
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
34
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:02:00 -
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When I'm in my weakest armored and shielded heavy and I manage to hold a hallway that the entire enemy team is coming through for five minutes with a HMG, I feel like that takes at least some amount of skill.
Everybodys rolling around in tanks and I'm just sitting here with my combat rifle
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3592
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Anything outside a tank I don't know I think beating 2-3 HAV at the same time is always pretty skilful.
That's true, it's the blaster vs infantry that has me frustrated again.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10056
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:06:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Anything outside a tank I don't know I think beating 2-3 HAV at the same time is always pretty skilful. That's true, it's the blaster vs infantry that has me frustrated again.
What about 2-3 HAV with a blaster? Thats pretty tough.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
1387
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:26:00 -
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SCPs takes skill. PLCs takes skill. ADS is a skill that costs so much ISK. Sniping cloaked scouts takes some skill, and eye strain on my part
my TV is crap and I have poor vision.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7567
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:28:00 -
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A kill being skill-full depends on how hard it was to get said kill.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7567
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
What about 2-3 HAV with a blaster? Thats pretty tough.
Not if you use an 80GJ Ion Cannon and choose your engagements carefully.
Proposed Mobile CRU Changes
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10057
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:35:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:
What about 2-3 HAV with a blaster? Thats pretty tough.
Not if you use an 80GJ Ion Cannon and choose your engagements carefully.
I dunno I mean picking on Missile and Rail Tankers, even with an Ion Cannon is rough sailing.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
13249
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:37:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:It seriously makes me cringe when people use the word skill in a video game
Go play some professional Starcraft 2 players and get back to me on that.
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