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Vect-r
Vault of the Void
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:19:00 -
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One match, I hopped into a friendly cannon-like aircraft vehicle and had access to both guns. There was a tank on the ground and I must've unloaded 30+ shots, all of which had no visible effect on the tank.
So, are the aircraft in this game made of rubber? Because the cannons don't have splash damage even on passer-by enemies. To this I say, what is the point of aircraft, and how am I supposed to counter those tanks?
I sure as heck aren't going to specialize into remote explosives and do a tank-tail jog, or spend SP in swarm launchers. I need that SP to help me kill ground troops.
Nobody got time fo'dat, fellas.
Thanks,
Vect-r
Not liking DUST so much so far, but hey, its free.
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:21:00 -
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dropships are troop transport not tank busters.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:23:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:dropships are troop transport not tank busters.
Someone isn't a dedicated ADS pilot.
There's very little room for troop transport in this game that free LAVs don't do better. A good pilot can provide troop transport when needed, certainly, but their main roles are infantry and vehicle suppression, overwatch, and forcing AV.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:dropships are troop transport not tank busters.
Someone isn't a dedicated ADS pilot. There's very little room for troop transport in this game that free LAVs don't do better. A good pilot can provide troop transport when needed, certainly, but their main roles are infantry and vehicle suppression, overwatch, and forcing AV.
Yep. My 4-seater Python fit is just a standby. I usually use it at the start of a match, keep going until I get shot down, and then switch to one with more HP.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:27:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:dropships are troop transport not tank busters.
Someone isn't a dedicated ADS pilot. There's very little room for troop transport in this game that free LAVs don't do better. A good pilot can provide troop transport when needed, certainly, but their main roles are infantry and vehicle suppression, overwatch, and forcing AV. Yep. My 4-seater Python fit is just a standby. I usually use it at the start of a match, keep going until I get shot down, and then switch to one with more HP.
I refuse to fit side guns anymore. I hate the change to their PG/CPU. Losing that survivability on a 500k ship just isn't something I'm going to do unless someone else is footing the bill. Losing the seats for not fitting turrets in dropships just goes to show that CCP doesn't really want dropships to be troop transport, and these fairly tiny maps also indicate that fact.
Troop transport is a bi product of Dropships, not a primary focus.
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Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:31:00 -
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according to your other post, you have about 550,000 lifetime sp, and started about 3 days ago, so allow me to explain this to you.
that "aircraft" you're talking about is called a dropship. juding by what you said, there are 3 possible options as to why your shots didn't seem to do anything.
1.) (and the most likely scenario) the dropship you entered was either a Viper or a Gorgon. understand, that these are MILITIA dropships, meaning that they are the worst of the worst. you're not going to kill a tank in a militia dropship, because the turrets simply don't deal enough damage.
2.) the turret was very cheap. as i said before, you're not going to kill a tank using the weakest turrets in the game.
3.) you were facing a rep tanked Madrugar. a rep tanked Madrugar is possibly the strongest tank in this game right now, because it repairs itself so quickly, that you might actually be doing nothing to it. again, you'll need nothing short of proto AV or a railgun or missile tank if you want to stand a chance against it.
lastly, if you're not willing to spend sp into AV, then don't complain about not being able to counter tanks. i understand that you're new, so you don't have enough sp to fight tanks AND infantry, but that mindset of "Nobody got time do'dat" just isn't gonna work. if you're running alone, then your best bet is just to avoid the tank, instead of trying to engage it at the level you're at.
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Vect-r
Vault of the Void
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:40:00 -
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Thanks for the enlightenment guys. Yeah, I didn't know dropships weren't tank busters. And I should spend more time getting SP. Ok, case closed.
Not liking DUST so much so far, but hey, its free.
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Riptalis
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:43:00 -
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Vect-r wrote:Thanks for the enlightenment guys. Yeah, I didn't know dropships weren't tank busters. And I should spend more time getting SP. Ok, case closed.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:13:00 -
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Though I don't know the full situation, in OPs defense I was in a match the other night and one of my tankers was mad because an enemy tank he was fighting just wouldn't take damage. I subconsiously wrote it of as bad aim on my corp members end, and headed his way in my Incubus (with proto baby missiles) to distract the enemy tank and let my corp mate get away.
Now i'm not saying I should have killed the enemy tank, and I wasn't expecting to, but I got in place above him and started firing missiles, and i'll be damned if the bastard really wasn't taking any damage. He didn't even try and run, and after about 16 shots that were pretty damn accurate, I really settled in, got still as a rock, and put another 16 on him. No damage, not at all. Had his health bar on screen for the entirety of my 32 shots and never did the shields dip bellow 100%, not even for a second. I was really low, never saw evidence of mods activating.
One strange thing I noticed was a bunch of my shots seemed like they were blowing up just before they hit the tank. They were on target, and I was well within missile range, but it seemed as though my missiles were exploding 10 meters or so before hitting the tank. Not sure if this was really happening, or if it was an optical illusion created by my mind to explain away an invincible tank.
But knowing this game and the type of people who play it, there is probably a glitch being exploited.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:16:00 -
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To the above post, it sounds like you were attempting to attack a triple rep Madrugar. Proto Missiles on an Incubus won't even tickle that fit, and there are no active modules to watch for except the NOS.
It's basically THE ***** fit right now lol
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:20:00 -
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I though the triple rep was an armor thing not a shield thing. I guess that had to be what it was though.
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Riptalis
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:39:00 -
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:45:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:I though the triple rep was an armor thing not a shield thing. I guess that had to be what it was though.
Oh well if it was a shield tank than either it was, in fact, bugged, or you were shooting at a triple hardener Gunloggi, and for some reason the effect wasn't rendering (shocking, I know). Without a hardener I cut through Gunloggi's just fine with my XT-1's
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:54:00 -
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I'm just gonna say this now. Basic RE's + Basic Flux Grenades = Dead Tanks
Three, or even two RE's to the back of a tank (The weak spot) + a flux grenade to knock out the shields will kill most tanks, just place your RE's, flux, detonate. Scout suits do this best as they're faster and harder to detect.
Or, you can just go the easy route and get a militia Sica, put on a damage mod, shield hardener, 120mm plate, and an armor hardener and go to town. It's currently one of the easiest ways to kill tanks without spending large sums of SP (Assuming you get the jump on them, in other words, get skilled at flanking)
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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