DUST Search - Do you want to know what it's like to care again?

SoTa PoP wrote:

843-BANE wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

CUSE TOWN333 wrote:

Clan loyalty is not something to be looked down on its a trait that is hard to find in this game and is a major reason for all the power shifts every month.

Can someone name me a time where a loyal group to there cause ever made any real change because of loyalty?

I can name only one. Negative-Feedback.

Loyalty to your corp should mean something. It should mean you want them to grow and constantly expand and getting better. What kind of loyalty are you claiming to have if your corp is stagnant? I call BS on 'loyalty'. If your corp is stagnant - that's how loyal your members are, that's how much they care.

That is not the kind of corp you want to be in.

Not everyone has the same ideals as 'PC domination, relevance, competition'. Don't get me wrong, I do. But I know a good majority of my veteran and talented corp-mates couldn't care less for PC. Loyalty to them is having fun with the clan... nothing stagnant there.

If that's there desire - it's called being 'casual'

I'm not referring to casuals in this post. Casuals don't have a stake in this game and are only here to enjoy each other.

I am speaking of you war room posters and PC players - wtf are you doing?!


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CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1718	Posted - 2014.05.01 20:56:00 - [1] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: 843-BANE wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Clan loyalty is not something to be looked down on its a trait that is hard to find in this game and is a major reason for all the power shifts every month. Can someone name me a time where a loyal group to there cause ever made any real change because of loyalty? I can name only one. Negative-Feedback. Loyalty to your corp should mean something. It should mean you want them to grow and constantly expand and getting better. What kind of loyalty are you claiming to have if your corp is stagnant? I call BS on 'loyalty'. If your corp is stagnant - that's how loyal your members are, that's how much they care. That is not the kind of corp you want to be in. Not everyone has the same ideals as 'PC domination, relevance, competition'. Don't get me wrong, I do. But I know a good majority of my veteran and talented corp-mates couldn't care less for PC. Loyalty to them is having fun with the clan... nothing stagnant there. If that's there desire - it's called being 'casual' I'm not referring to casuals in this post. Casuals don't have a stake in this game and are only here to enjoy each other. I am speaking of you war room posters and PC players - wtf are you doing?! Who really does have a stake in this game Sota? There is only imaginary territory right now with no connection to eve other than orbital bombardment, yay. There is no player market and don't think there will be one for quite some time, so all the isk in the game means nothing. There is no revolving economy between Dust and Eve so weapon and equipment manufacture have no impact on economy or supplying troops, so really all the districts in the game have no purpose of their own to begin with. Other than bragging rights, there is nothing to have stake in, nothing. Maybe down the road when and if things really do matter somewhat, a lot of these other corps will try to gain some ground, mine included. But right now with the way this game is right now, after working ten hours the last thing a lot of us want to do is have a battle against an experienced PC corp running the FOTM fits with a CR and get frustrated. Not to mention f'd up tanks and lag. Happy to play some pubs in cheap gear and relax with my "loyal" corpmates and wait for some fixes. Nothing to have stake in is exactly why a lot of us backed out, it means absolutely nothing, does nothing, worth nothing. No disrespect Sota, just my thoughts... CEO Whiskey squad leader, E9 Once Bitten Twice Shy....
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1720	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:23:00 - [2] - Quote Never said we were giving up, or not preparing, we are and you are absolutely right on preparing for the future, it will be different. Yes I and my Corp was frustrated, it's only natural, but we aren't going anywhere as the FOTM alliance will self destruct, you and I both know it, and there will be chances again... CEO Whiskey squad leader, E9 Once Bitten Twice Shy....