Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:51:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:If you are a assault/heavy/logi/scout without an AV weapon and you see a vehicle you have to hope cover is near by. You have zero chance of competing. Your suit, wether it is 0 isk or 200k isk will melt in moments to any vehicle turret.
Only blaster turrets kill infantry with ease. Don't generalize all vehicles based on the one blaster tank that is effective at its role as AI.
Crimson Cerberes wrote:If you are a assault/heavy/logi/scout/commando with an AV weapon and you see a vehicle you have to hope cover is near by. You have next to no chance of competing with the vehicle. Your suit regardless of cost, will die in a blink of an eye if they see you.
Again, AV only has to fear AI (blaster) tanks the most. Railgun and missile tanks have to retreat with minimal effectiveness against the AV dropsuit.
Crimson Cerberes wrote:If you are a tank/ADS and you see a ground soldier you hope there is no cover near. Unless they have AV, they have zero chance of fighting back and you have an easy kill. If they do have AV then you have a little while to kill them then you must retreat, to try to kill them again 30 seconds later.
Once more, only blaster turrets will have an easy kill. If you die to a missile/railgun turret, either the tanker has good aim and high skill and/or you made yourself an easy target (such as standing still).
Crimson Cerberes wrote:Do you see the imbalance inherent in this?
Yes, blaster tanks are too powerful. I say, nerf their damage by about 33% and I think we are closer to balance. Their AI effectiveness gets nerfed (but seriously, I have yet to die to a blaster tank while running on foot) while their AV effectiveness is severely limited, which is something that should be done. There has to be a trade-off between AI and AV. Currently, there is no such trade-off in exchange for AI, while the railgun and missile turrets sacrifice AI for AV.
Balancing the Large Turrets
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.30 18:04:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:That isn't really true now is it?
An ADS with missiles doesn't even need to be that good of a shot thanks to ample splash damage and radius. Missile tanks can kill infantry just fine (although less effectively than small missiles). Railguns make better AI snipers than snipers do.
For the ADS, true, but remember that it's also just made out of paper. It's rather close to the definition of a glass cannon with gank over tank.
If you say missile tanks can kill infantry just fine, I'm sure you've never been in one. Go ahead, hop in one. Let me know how "easy" it is to kill infantry. You see the good missile tankers get infantry kills so you must assume that it's easy for everyone to do.
If missile tanks could kill infantry just fine, then why is it that I have to run away from fatman with a forge gun?
Railguns are meant to be used at range. Range makes tracking and hitting stuff easier, so if I were to have a say in large turret balance, railguns wouldn't excel in either AI or AV, but rather be all-rounded at range.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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