| Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1685
   |
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:35:00 -
[1] - Quote
Not sure if anyone has gotten to this yet, but this event just from looking at it, is looking like complete garbage to me.
I will explain this argument the best way I can, through math.
Getting a kill with a regular suit gets you 50 sp a kill, correct?
getting a kill with an origin suit gets you 100 sp a kill, right?
The max you can get from this is 500,000 sp, correct?
Lets now do the math.
Say you're a cheap douchewad and buy only one origin pack. You get, if I'm correct, 40 suits in total from a single origin pack.
So lets divide 500,000 and 100.
500,000
/100
5,000
You need to get 5,000 kills with that one origin pack. Now lets go ahead and find out how many kills you need to make per origin suit.
5,000
/40
125
Throughout this week, you have to maintain a 125 KD/r to get the max grind, statistically speaking, I have yet to see a single person, through lower tier or upper tier ranks, whom are able to accomplish this, not even a "proto stomper". If a proto guy can't do this, how could a lower tier guy do this? (don't say Duna, he's a tanker)
Now let's plug this in a typical domination spammer.
A dom takes around 20 minutes (give or take a few minutes), and against total noobs, I can drop a 30 bomb each game provided I have a dedicated logi repping my fat butt (origin suits don't have a heavy suit). along with orbitals
Let's say that I have a life, a job, and a family, and I can only play for 2 hours each day. I can play six doms a day.
Best case scenario, I get 30 each maatch, lets do the math on that.
30
x6
150
Now let's multiply that by 7 for the whole week.
150
x7
1050
If someone managed to pull that off in origin suits, which is statistically impossible, they would be short this much.
5000 kills
- 1050 kills
3950 kill still needed to go
Now let's do the math without origin suits, which will be the more likely route.
5000x2= 10,000
taking the origin bonus out of the equation, players are forced to get 10,000 kills in a one week period, with foot soldier suits.
Now let's see the math done on this.
10,000
- 1,050
8,950
Now lets look at the top killer on the leaderboard, who has I believe around 150,000 lifetime kills. You are asking a whole community to get a fifteenth of what took him a full year and more to get, how in the hell are most people with jobs, families and lives supposed to do this challenge?
Anyway, there's my rant, I'll be coming back with one concerning hot black babes, more aerial vehicles and buffalo wings next time.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
144
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:37:00 -
[2] - Quote
your thread is garbage lol
i like to go to craigslist and look at the personal ad's transexuals put up
|
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
What Is Dead May Never Die
1129
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:41:00 -
[3] - Quote
Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:your thread is garbage lol
You are garbage.
But on topic. The event is one big promotion to the origins pack.
We need to bring down duna corp.
|
Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
213
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:41:00 -
[4] - Quote
Boo hoo you cant get full SP
Go QQ about something else
-holds arms in O-throw it in the story basket bro
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3523
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:43:00 -
[5] - Quote
Use a tank |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1688
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:43:00 -
[6] - Quote
Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:your thread is garbage lol You are garbage. But on topic. The event is one big promotion to the origins pack.
I'm trying to get this event less grindy. As CCP has stated multiple times, they've agreed their events are quite grindy, and have said they want to move away from that. It is statistically impossible for anyone but a no lifer (like myself) to get this event fully capped out. I'm thinking about people who don't have the time for this crap.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES
Proficiency V.
178
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:44:00 -
[7] - Quote
Similar thread was already made pointing out the exact same shit. Nice reiteration, I guess. I plan to go about it capping my active SP so I can get my proto commando faster.
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
|
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1688
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:45:00 -
[8] - Quote
Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Boo hoo you cant get full SP
Go QQ about something else
This isn't about that, I don't care for the SP. I've already got around 38 mil plus. I'm trying to look out for people who have lives and don't want to spend a full week in their underwear smelling like they don't shower to accomplish this.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
NAV HIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1632
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:45:00 -
[9] - Quote
I think that's 500k SP in total... You might be missing all the WP-SP from uplinks, nanohives, revives, Squad leader points, Frago points (Defense/Attack), Vehicle damage points and so on... You can get this WP and SP cap faster by being a full on logi and equipment spammer... I'd be capped by Friday
To hit that 10mil ISK, you need to kill 2000 clones this week. Which is not very difficult. |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
4701
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:46:00 -
[10] - Quote
What? There's no item reward this time for the first 400 kills? That's how CCP's pacified anti-grinder complaints in the past.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
|
|
|
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1688
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:46:00 -
[11] - Quote
Kaminoikari wrote:Similar thread was already made pointing out the exact same shit. Nice reiteration, I guess. I plan to go about it capping my active SP so I can get my proto commando faster.
Like i said, I didn't know if this was already taken care of, if it was, and I'm just restating the obvious, I apologize.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
2216
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:47:00 -
[12] - Quote
Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Boo hoo you cant get full SP
Go QQ about something else
Basically this. People need to get over the concept that a cap existing means you must hit it.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
|
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1688
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:48:00 -
[13] - Quote
NAV HIV wrote:I think that's 500k SP in total... You might be missing all the WP-SP from uplinks, nanohives, revives, Squad leader points, Frago points (Defense/Attack), Vehicle damage points and so on... You can get this WP and SP cap faster by being a full on logi and equipment spammer... I'd be capped by Friday
To hit that 10mil ISK, you need to kill 2000 clones this week. Which is not very difficult.
Those go to a different pool, Nav, the SP you get from the bonus and the sp you get from the double cap are separate, if I read it correctly.
I don't really care about the 10 mil isk, to be honest, don't get me wrong, I'm not going to hand it to some poor hobo on a whim.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1690
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:49:00 -
[14] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Boo hoo you cant get full SP
Go QQ about something else Basically this. People need to get over the concept that a cap existing means you must hit it.
True, but CCP has stated multiple times that they want to make their events with less grind, this is one, if not the most grind event there is.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1534
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:50:00 -
[15] - Quote
If you play 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, you would need a kill every minuet. |
Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
2360
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:51:00 -
[16] - Quote
At a cap of 500,000 sp
With 50 sp per infantry kill
It will take 10,000 KILLS to cap.
GG CCP
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
|
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
141
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:51:00 -
[17] - Quote
I work full time and my girlfriend and her kid live with me.
Never have had trouble capping. Takes about 9-10hrs on the norm.
Hell I even managed to stay on top 10 weekly killboard last week.
Those special events tho, 3 times the cap makes it nearly impossible to cap for the casual gamer.
Takes alot of play during the weekend for me to even dream of capping.
10k kills in a week? WTF GTFO (-_-, ) |
NAV HIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1632
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:53:00 -
[18] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Boo hoo you cant get full SP
Go QQ about something else Basically this. People need to get over the concept that a cap existing means you must hit it.
YOU ARE WRONG!!!!
MUST Hit that CAP!!! ASAP...
I'm a slave to that SP lol
Last event i capped out thursday night... Triple Cap or something with 5X
So this time it would be Saturday i guess.. |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1690
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:53:00 -
[19] - Quote
WhataguyTTU wrote:I work full time and my girlfriend and her kid live with me.
Never have had trouble capping. Takes about 9-10hrs on the norm.
Hell I even managed to stay on top 10 weekly killboard last week.
Those special events tho, 3 times the cap makes it nearly impossible to cap for the casual gamer.
You're not a casual gamer though, neither am I, TBH. But for those who are casual, this event is pretty much impossible. If you're able to all that and maintain your life, power to you. But there are those who can't, and I think they should be given an opportunity to get that.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
NAV HIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1632
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:55:00 -
[20] - Quote
Derrith Erador wrote:NAV HIV wrote:I think that's 500k SP in total... You might be missing all the WP-SP from uplinks, nanohives, revives, Squad leader points, Frago points (Defense/Attack), Vehicle damage points and so on... You can get this WP and SP cap faster by being a full on logi and equipment spammer... I'd be capped by Friday
To hit that 10mil ISK, you need to kill 2000 clones this week. Which is not very difficult. Those go to a different pool, Nav, the SP you get from the bonus and the sp you get from the double cap are separate, if I read it correctly. I don't really care about the 10 mil isk, to be honest, don't get me wrong, I'm not going to hand it to some poor hobo on a whim.
OHhh noh!!! How do you get 10k kill in a week with Origin Gear then?! Even if All the red dots stop firing and stop shooting, it'd be almost impossible. . .
My bad... I didn't read that part properly.... That's why i was wondering, why is everyone complaining  |
|
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3525
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:55:00 -
[21] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do.
|
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
985
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:56:00 -
[22] - Quote
CCP have totally taken leave of their senses with this event. It's like four or five events at the same time, some of which are okay (double SP cap event, slightly increased SP gain event, slightly increased ISK gain event), some of which seem to have been specifically designed to antagonize the playerbase (10,000 kill ubergrind event, PTW event), and which overall is just a cluster **** of negative marketing for their product. |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1690
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:58:00 -
[23] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do.
ah thanks for that, would you be so kind as to link me where he says that?
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
942
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:58:00 -
[24] - Quote
Yes the event is bad and is extremely grindy.
Take advantage and use a tank, then your origin suits will go much farther
Or go to Oceania server with a few friends and revive kill your way to 10000.
Or just play normally and forget their even is an event, the extra sp/isk is just bonus. I don't play for the events...because they are terrible. |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1694
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 14:59:00 -
[25] - Quote
Galvan Nized wrote:Yes the event is bad and is extremely grindy.
Take advantage and use a tank, then your origin suits will go much farther
Or go to Oceania server with a few friends and revive kill your way to 10000.
Or just play normally and forget their even is an event, the extra sp/isk is just bonus. I don't play for the events...because they are terrible.
The event clearly states per infantry kill. I don't see how tanks would count.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3528
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 15:03:00 -
[26] - Quote
Derrith Erador wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. ah thanks for that, would you be so kind as to link me where he says that?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2102604#post2102604 |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8181
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 15:03:00 -
[27] - Quote
I won't say that this is statistically impossible as I don't believe it is. However I will say that this is statistically difficult to a very large degree. In fact, this whole thing would seem to encourage those FOTM chasers into using the whole cloak+shotgun bug to farm every kill they can get.
EDIT: Never mind. I just saw CCP's recent update.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3528
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 15:03:00 -
[28] - Quote
Derrith Erador wrote:Galvan Nized wrote:Yes the event is bad and is extremely grindy.
Take advantage and use a tank, then your origin suits will go much farther
Or go to Oceania server with a few friends and revive kill your way to 10000.
Or just play normally and forget their even is an event, the extra sp/isk is just bonus. I don't play for the events...because they are terrible. The event clearly states per infantry kill. I don't see how tanks would count.
I assumed extra SP per infantry kill
As in dead infantry |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
1694
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 15:05:00 -
[29] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Galvan Nized wrote:Yes the event is bad and is extremely grindy.
Take advantage and use a tank, then your origin suits will go much farther
Or go to Oceania server with a few friends and revive kill your way to 10000.
Or just play normally and forget their even is an event, the extra sp/isk is just bonus. I don't play for the events...because they are terrible. The event clearly states per infantry kill. I don't see how tanks would count. I assumed extra SP per infantry kill As in dead infantry
Possibly, but the way I read it was you kill as a foot soldier. Can someone clarify on this?
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3528
|
Posted - 2014.04.30 15:25:00 -
[30] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry. Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match. Of
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2102685#post2102685 |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |