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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 05:48:00 -
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For Turrets we can see that each race will have at least two turret types based on the two types of damage
Caldari - Missiles, Railguns
Minmitar - Autocannon, Artillery/cannon
Amarr - Beam and Pulse Lasers
Gallente - Blaster and........
It seems that Gallente for some reason unbeknownst to us just randomly decided to not use Railgun Weaponry on the ground, or at least that's what CCP is hinting. Blasters and Drones? Maybe if this was the year 2019 but it's not.
All in all, this is just another thread for me to ***** about why CCP decided to not give Gallente Railgun weaponry like in EVE and Early Days of DUST.
tl;dr: Where are My Gallente Hybrid Railguns? |
Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
558
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Posted - 2014.04.30 05:51:00 -
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Maybe an 80gj version of the plasma cannon; firing out extremely slow moving, steep drop off balls of plasma? Would be kinda neat if it was Semi Automatic
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
1589
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Posted - 2014.04.30 05:51:00 -
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I'm guessing you use- instead of plasma 'bolts' you use haphazardly formed balls of plasma?
Seems the way the Plc is going.
Just wait, you might get a OOBER CQC weapon, called the Plasma Flamethrower, with an eefective of 3m, it's SURE to actually kill that scout plonking away at your 32 HP/s rep heavy and 900 HP pool.
General John Ripper
Like ALL the things!!!
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1517
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:01:00 -
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Gallente should have rail and blaster.
Caldari get two missile types: Explosive and EM (+20% to shield, -20% to armor).
Me in my ADS: 1,2
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5728
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:02:00 -
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Plasma Flamethrower on a tank?
Yes please.
Seriously though, if we just had Drones I'd take this argument away....even if we just had AI sentry turrets to guard a locations I'd be okay with that. |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8120
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:22:00 -
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In all fairness, looking at assault dropships (the only non-basic vehicle class at the moment) the Gallente one does get bonuses to both blasters and railguns.
Amarr are the good guys.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5728
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:30:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:In all fairness, looking at assault dropships (the only non-basic vehicle class at the moment) the Gallente one does get bonuses to both blasters and railguns. Yeah I saw that and I hope it sticks but that bonus is from a time when CCP had Hybrid weapons both Gallente and Caldari.
They changed all the other shared bonuses between Blasters and Rails, I suspect them to do the same once they have realized what they have done.
Although I will say this.
The small Rails operate more like Gallente type rails and Caldari rails could operate more like the Large Rails.
Small Rails (hopefully Gallente prototype) - Less Range, Lower Accuracy, Higher RoF, Less Damage, Better Tracking, Larger Magazine.
Large Rails (suspected bases for Caldari Rails) - Longer Range, Higher Accuracy, Slower RoF (lol), More Damage, Slower Tracking, smaller Magazine.
If Small Rails were Gallente Based and Large Rails were Caldari based that would make me feel a whole lot better and not feel like CCP just tossed well established lore out the window for the sake of DEV convenience |
Omega Black Zero
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:32:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:In all fairness, looking at assault dropships (the only non-basic vehicle class at the moment) the Gallente one does get bonuses to both blasters and railguns. I imagine those are placeholder skills until everything is released. |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8121
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:35:00 -
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Also when it comes to anything vehicle-content related I wouldn't put much stock in anything. Who is to say there won't be Gallente rail guns and Caldari rail guns? Because honestly, when was the last time we even got new vehicle content? Like actual new vehicle content? Slapping already existing turrets to the front of already existing dropships doesn't count.
Amarr are the good guys.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5728
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:40:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Also when it comes to anything vehicle-content related I wouldn't put much stock in anything. Who is to say there won't be Gallente rail guns and Caldari rail guns? Because honestly, when was the last time we even got new vehicle content? Like actual new vehicle content? Slapping already existing turrets to the front of already existing dropships doesn't count. You've got a point. Funny thing is since the inception of Vehicles we actually have LESS content now than we had back in the day.
Hahahah oh man the jedi can relate to this one. |
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:52:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Also when it comes to anything vehicle-content related I wouldn't put much stock in anything. Who is to say there won't be Gallente rail guns and Caldari rail guns? Because honestly, when was the last time we even got new vehicle content? Like actual new vehicle content? Slapping already existing turrets to the front of already existing dropships doesn't count. Hell , you know they took away a lot of turrets that had different functions .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5729
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:31:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Also when it comes to anything vehicle-content related I wouldn't put much stock in anything. Who is to say there won't be Gallente rail guns and Caldari rail guns? Because honestly, when was the last time we even got new vehicle content? Like actual new vehicle content? Slapping already existing turrets to the front of already existing dropships doesn't count. Hell , you know they took away a lot of turrets that had different functions . I miss the Diversity we used to have.
What good even came out of this new vehicle system?
The only thing that happened is that they shifted this issues around and removed a ton of content from the game.
Literally the only positive that came from this vehicle change is the Ammo System. (which I thought would help my small blaster but apparently they gimped my babies again) |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9968
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:54:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Also when it comes to anything vehicle-content related I wouldn't put much stock in anything. Who is to say there won't be Gallente rail guns and Caldari rail guns? Because honestly, when was the last time we even got new vehicle content? Like actual new vehicle content? Slapping already existing turrets to the front of already existing dropships doesn't count.
Aero you are depressing me....Stop it.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
3743
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:59:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:For Turrets we can see that each race will have at least two turret types based on the two types of damage
Caldari - Missiles, Railguns
Minmitar - Autocannon, Artillery/cannon
Amarr - Beam and Pulse Lasers
Gallente - Blaster and........
It seems that Gallente for some reason unbeknownst to us just randomly decided to not use Railgun Weaponry on the ground, or at least that's what CCP is hinting. Blasters and Drones? Maybe if this was the year 2019 but it's not.
All in all, this is just another thread for me to ***** about why CCP decided to not give Gallente Railgun weaponry like in EVE and Early Days of DUST.
tl;dr: Where are My Gallente Hybrid Railguns?
A drone tank. A drone tank.
Oh god almighty, please give me a drone tank. |
The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
433
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:05:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote: A drone tank. A drone tank.
Oh god almighty, please give me a drone tank.
Mobile Drone Hive? |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5730
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:31:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:...
tl;dr: Where are My Gallente Hybrid Railguns? A drone tank. A drone tank. Oh god almighty, please give me a drone tank.
Small Turret = Small Drone Port ? |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3082
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:33:00 -
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Railguns
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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BL4CKST4R
warravens Final Resolution.
2605
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:55:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:For Turrets we can see that each race will have at least two turret types based on the two types of damage
Caldari - Missiles, Railguns
Minmitar - Autocannon, Artillery/cannon
Amarr - Beam and Pulse Lasers
Gallente - Blaster and........
It seems that Gallente for some reason unbeknownst to us just randomly decided to not use Railgun Weaponry on the ground, or at least that's what CCP is hinting. Blasters and Drones? Maybe if this was the year 2019 but it's not.
All in all, this is just another thread for me to ***** about why CCP decided to not give Gallente Railgun weaponry like in EVE and Early Days of DUST.
tl;dr: Where are My Gallente Hybrid Railguns?
If you change railguns and blasters to just hybrid you could see that even if Gallente got rail guns they still only have 1 weapon.
For the Federation!
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
432
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:50:00 -
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The AR is your long range option, for everything else you have shotguns.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2150
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:04:00 -
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In Eve Caldari / Gallente turret ships use either rails or blasters depending on the intent of the fit (sniping vs brawling), they just have a tendency to use one or the other. It isn't really necessary to duplicate the railgun and put a Gallente corporation name on it, just use the railgun that already exists. |
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Tweaksz
Jaded Clones Jaded Coalition
64
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:07:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:For Turrets we can see that each race will have at least two turret types based on the two types of damage
Caldari - Missiles, Railguns
Minmitar - Autocannon, Artillery/cannon
Amarr - Beam and Pulse Lasers
Gallente - Blaster and........
It seems that Gallente for some reason unbeknownst to us just randomly decided to not use Railgun Weaponry on the ground, or at least that's what CCP is hinting. Blasters and Drones? Maybe if this was the year 2019 but it's not.
All in all, this is just another thread for me to ***** about why CCP decided to not give Gallente Railgun weaponry like in EVE and Early Days of DUST.
tl;dr: Where are My Gallente Hybrid Railguns? Well Gallente secondary weapons are Drones. So mebe....
Unicorn GalScout with TAR/BAR and IoP/BoltP.
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
440
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:09:00 -
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caldari branched off from gallente.
the HYBRID weaponry that cadlari uses is also used by gallente. hybrid weaponry consists of blasters and rails.
In eve, aside from the hybrid weaponry the caldari put a focus on shields, electronic countermeasures and missiles. the gallente put a focus on armor, sensor dampeners and drones.
Primus sucks.
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4625
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:10:00 -
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The Khanid like missiles, so the Amarr technically could go beam, pulse, and missile, but it'll never happen.
=^,.,^=
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1692
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:13:00 -
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Drones.
And they should be Gallente's AV "turret," considering that the blaster should be AI.
Pulse lasers and autocannons should also be AI while beam lasers and artillery are for AV.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
440
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:13:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:The Khanid like missiles, so the Amarr technically could go beam, pulse, and missile, but it'll never happen.
minmatar use missiles, too.
Primus sucks.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5732
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:14:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:The Khanid like missiles, so the Amarr technically could go beam, pulse, and missile, but it'll never happen. minmatar use missiles, too. Every race uses missiles. some more than others, but all races use missiles. |
Tweaksz
Jaded Clones Jaded Coalition
64
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:17:00 -
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Just because you can fit a Hybrid rail on a Gallente Ship doesn't mean you should. Same goes for tanks. Gallente in the lore are blaster/drone tech and Caldari are rail/missile tech. But just because they're both hybrid weapons doesn't mean they're viable for both.
Unicorn GalScout with TAR/BAR and IoP/BoltP.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5732
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:22:00 -
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Tweaksz wrote:Just because you can fit a Hybrid rail on a Gallente Ship doesn't mean you should. Same goes for tanks. Gallente in the lore are blaster/drone tech and Caldari are rail/missile tech. But just because they're both hybrid weapons doesn't mean they're viable for both. Hahahah, look at this guy.
he has never even played EVE. |
Tweaksz
Jaded Clones Jaded Coalition
64
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:42:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Tweaksz wrote:Just because you can fit a Hybrid rail on a Gallente Ship doesn't mean you should. Same goes for tanks. Gallente in the lore are blaster/drone tech and Caldari are rail/missile tech. But just because they're both hybrid weapons doesn't mean they're viable for both. Hahahah, look at this guy. he has never even played EVE.
Straight for the troll huh? I was saying lore wise but ok. I have been in fleets that run Talos rail fits, but just because it's like that in eve doesn't mean the lore is the same way. Also EVE =/= DUST
Unicorn GalScout with TAR/BAR and IoP/BoltP.
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
777
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:49:00 -
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Gallente use hybrid weapons.
Hybrid weapons are blasters and rails.
Gallente use blaster or rails interchangeably. They're both gallente tech.
Dust giving the caldari a monopoly on rails and gallente a monopoly on blasters is an idiosyncrasy that needs to be fixed. There should be two skins for these weapons. A caldari skin for the ar, a caldari skin for the rail rifle (check) a gallente skin for the ar (check) and a gallente skin for the rail rifle.
This would apply to all hybrid weapons as they're shared equally between gallente and caldari.
the other weapon is missiles for caldari, and drones for gallente. We have no drones and not enough missiles for caldari. This also needs to be fixed asap.
Whichever skin you get would be dependent on which frame/hull you choose.
(this is inaddition to missiles as Kirk points out to sone extent all four races use They're should be 4 skins for missiles and at least one hull for each race that's good for missiles.)
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half Gank!
TURTLE POWER!!!
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