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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:18:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:
That's not what I'm referring to, and you know it.
If infantry realizes (as the tank in the video did with the swarm launcher), that your weapons are incapable of killing them when you DO shoot them, how long do you think they would continue to run away from you?
How long before they stop taking cover altogether, and begin simply ignoring you, once they realize that you do not pose any threat to them?
TBH id get a friend, 2 is always better than 1
But when 10 sync mercenaries can't take down a single experimented tank, how are you supposed to take down 3 tankers with 16 players ?
Only stupid noobs with noob tank which only run into ennemies like stupid 1960 IA die into a Tank.
Any person which have a brain can't die into a tank if there is no other tank. |
Mordecai Sanguine
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:20:00 -
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In the Video we can see the player can't even destroy the tank WHILE HE DON'T DO ANYTHING.
In real games, the tank can shoot, run away and kill the whole team 50 time before his tank is destroyed.
The tank will NEVER take that much rocket in a game, and still people defend tanks..... Their SP should be erased.... |
Mordecai Sanguine
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:24:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:
That's not what I'm referring to, and you know it.
If infantry realizes (as the tank in the video did with the swarm launcher), that your weapons are incapable of killing them when you DO shoot them, how long do you think they would continue to run away from you?
How long before they stop taking cover altogether, and begin simply ignoring you, once they realize that you do not pose any threat to them?
TBH id get a friend, 2 is always better than 1 But when 10 sync mercenaries can't take down a single experimented tank, how are you supposed to take down 3 tankers with 16 players ? Only stupid noobs with noob tank which only run into ennemies like stupid 1960 IA die into a Tank. Any person which have a brain can't die into a tank if there is no other tank. If 10ppl cannot kill 1 tank then they should quit
Let me guess, you're a tanker right ? Oh sorry i said tanker ? I mean Noob. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:26:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:So Takihiro, I'm calling you out, give me an answer.
Why should it take multiple AV units to destroy a single player in a tank? What reason do you have that permits a single person to surpass more than multiplemof hos designated counter?
Dude (Monkey MAC) saw you in a game today, you were against me. (As a Gunship)
WE DESTROYED A TRIPLE REP MADRUGAR !!!!!!!!
We were like 10 agiant him and an another tnak but we destroyed it !!!!!
I was personnally with Plasma Cannon and Proto Swarm (Commando) shooting contiunally on him with extra fast reload and unlimited ammo. (near to ammo installation)
There was 2 Forge Gun (Breach).
2 blue dot Swarms.
A Gunlogi with rail gun.
2 Scout with Remotes.
And an Orbital Strike.
And i finally got him with a critical hit from my Plasma Cannon. +150 
But well....we sync 10 players and Orbital to destroy a tank....So we lose the objective, got crushed by infantry and your dropship and 1 min later his tank was back while it took us 10 min to destroy it.....
Seems TOTALLY legit.
1 Tank Vs 10 ******* player, seems logic.
It made us lose the game while we dominated you and your team the whole game..... |
Mordecai Sanguine
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:28:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:So Takihiro, I'm calling you out, give me an answer.
Why should it take multiple AV units to destroy a single player in a tank? What reason do you have that permits a single person to surpass more than multiplemof hos designated counter? Because its a lazy counter that requires no foresight, planning, ISK investment, SP sink or geographical advantage. You're also on the wrong part of the map for killing things. Stick to the city. Basically, you dont deserve to kill a tank. Interesting, That guy usually plays in a tank I should probably start with my AV fit isn't foresight? The other team has a tank, I will need to deploy nearby, preferably behind said tank, with my AV fit probably find some cover in case the engagment goes pear shaped for one of numerous reasons. Isn't planning? 40,000 ISK per suit isn't an ISK investment? 25,000,000 SP just for a decked out AV isn't an SP Sink? Above the turrets angle of attack (high ground) or behind a tank (flanking) isn't a geographical advantage? So umm what was that? No, 40k is not an investment. I switch to 78k suits when im ready to STOP losing money. Tanks cost half a million isk each if they are worth a damn, and there isn't a single form of AV out there that requires 25 million SP by itself.
40k suits will NEVER destroy a Tank alon, it needs at least a full proto squad and some OB or an another Tank.
A tank will ALWAYS kill at least 20 ennemy before dying, making it destroy way more iSK than it cost.
And a tank is CHEAP. Under Proto level AV can't do anything, so it cost the hell to buy some AV.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:46:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Also let me add something else Monkey, AV can be produced anytime anywhere with no foresight. You get raped by a tank, you switch to AV instantly upon death or if you're at a supply depot.
The same convenience is not true for tanks. If your team is redlined by an opposing group of tanks it is incredibly difficult to call new tanks in without them being shot down. If they ARE called in, they will be so far into the back of the redline they are are completely barricaded into a losing fight.
Saying "oh herp derp there's a tank ima switch to forge" is not foresight. It's not planning. And even if you did plan for it in advance that isn't going to be any less than just changing to it after you recognize the threat.
What the **** are you saying ?
As you said yourself the ONLY way for a tank to get raped is by an another group of tank, Daaaamn, go play World of tank and let us alone.
-What you say is stupid, if a tank is stuck in the redline by AV players he jut pass trough easily.
-If infantry are stuck in the redline by a tank they are DEAD. Because they can't escape and can't call any vehicules.
You get raped by a tank, you take AV and THEN WHAT ? I remember you AV just CAN'T destroy tanks. 
Actually tanks rep faster than we makes damage....
Quote:The same convenience is not true for tanks. If your team is redlined by an opposing group of tanks it is incredibly difficult to call new tanks in without them being shot down. If they ARE called in, they will be so far into the back of the redline they are are completely barricaded into a losing fight.
So you're telling tanks are not OP because tanks are OP against tanks ? WHAT THE **** IS YOUR LOGIC ?  |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.05.01 00:02:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:So Takihiro, I'm calling you out, give me an answer.
Why should it take multiple AV units to destroy a single player in a tank? What reason do you have that permits a single person to surpass more than multiplemof hos designated counter? Dude (Monkey MAC) saw you in a game today, you were against me. (As a Gunship) WE DESTROYED A TRIPLE REP MADRUGAR !!!!!!!! We were like 10 agiant him and an another tnak but we destroyed it !!!!! I was personnally with Plasma Cannon and Proto Swarm (Commando) shooting contiunally on him with extra fast reload and unlimited ammo. (near to ammo installation) There was 2 Forge Gun (Breach). 2 blue dot Swarms. A Gunlogi with rail gun. 2 Scout with Remotes. And an Orbital Strike. And i finally got him with a critical hit from my Plasma Cannon. +150 But well....we sync 10 players and Orbital to destroy a tank....So we lose the objective, got crushed by infantry and your dropship and 1 min later his tank was back while it took us 10 min to destroy it..... Seems TOTALLY legit. 1 Tank Vs 10 ******* player, seems logic. It made us lose the game while we dominated you and your team the whole game..... Yeah saw that, was pretty darn good, though I would like to point out he did just sit there and take it, it took alot more effort for you to get me (I crashed in the end) and I was in a rather flimsy dropship by comparison. I rather enjoyed that match I believe we won, by a single clone!  Still lost 700,000 ISK, but worth it when I now know my team of newberries beat a 10 stacked squad and I went positive.
Yep it was damn close !!!! (A single one  )
I've been the last killed, the one who made us loss 
BUT i've maded a Triple kill just before so...and got revived
In fact he wasn't "sitting here" our scouts simply blocked all the way out by 10 explosive remotes while our tank was blocking the other way We blocked him.
Well....Have you ever try to get down a Dropship with a Plasma Cannon ? It's pretty Hard.
And before playing with AV i was shooting you with Laser Rifle and Mass driver to make you shoot me instead of my teamates, they pass trought and then take the objectives
Lost something about 400.000 ISK, was playing ADV but died 8 time.
Hmm in fact we were not in a squad, i was playing solo to train me (didn't play since a months) we were also totally blueberries. Seems like we were just randomely set up to destroy this tank.
Certainely Amarr gods who decided this destiny.
(The 2 forge gunner was Amarr sentinel and our scouts were Amarr, i was Amarr....Funny fact  ) |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.01 10:37:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
40,000 ISK per suit isn't an ISK investment?
25,000,000 SP just for a decked out AV isn't an SP Sink?
I'm sorry, what? How the hell can you not blow up a tank with that much SP in AV? I only have about...... 1,000,000 SP in AV, and my suit costs around... 8,000 Isk per deploy.... Triple reps fall like rain to this suit. You are clearly trying to stretch the truth in your favor so far, that it doesn't even look true anymore. Please share this mega suit then. The suitmI outlined requires getting behind the enemy sticking some RE to his weak spot, some PE on his retreat path and then lobbing 2 grenades + 2swarms then detonating the RE before he regens, requires your target to be stationery or poor at driving in enclosed spaces. Provided you can achieve this, the tank will fall 7/10 times. I would very much like to see your fit since afterall there is a video at the beggining of this thread showing standard AV tactics don't cut it.
People just don't understand AV are supposed to COUNTER the ennemy Tanks.
Actually they can,'t, it's broken, nerf vehicule OR buff AV but when the counter can't even kill it means there is a problem, a huge problem, anyway today is FanFest let's see the changes |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.01 10:42:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:So Takihiro, I'm calling you out, give me an answer.
Why should it take multiple AV units to destroy a single player in a tank? What reason do you have that permits a single person to surpass more than multiplemof hos designated counter? Dude (Monkey MAC) saw you in a game today, you were against me. (As a Gunship) WE DESTROYED A TRIPLE REP MADRUGAR !!!!!!!! We were like 10 agiant him and an another tnak but we destroyed it !!!!! I was personnally with Plasma Cannon and Proto Swarm (Commando) shooting contiunally on him with extra fast reload and unlimited ammo. (near to ammo installation) There was 2 Forge Gun (Breach). 2 blue dot Swarms. A Gunlogi with rail gun. 2 Scout with Remotes. And an Orbital Strike. And i finally got him with a critical hit from my Plasma Cannon. +150 But well....we sync 10 players and Orbital to destroy a tank....So we lose the objective, got crushed by infantry and your dropship and 1 min later his tank was back while it took us 10 min to destroy it..... Seems TOTALLY legit. 1 Tank Vs 10 ******* player, seems logic. It made us lose the game while we dominated you and your team the whole game..... Yeah saw that, was pretty darn good, though I would like to point out he did just sit there and take it, it took alot more effort for you to get me (I crashed in the end) and I was in a rather flimsy dropship by comparison. I rather enjoyed that match I believe we won, by a single clone! Still lost 700,000 ISK, but worth it when I now know my team of newberries beat a 10 stacked squad and I went positive. Yep it was damn close !!!! (A single one ) I've been the last killed, the one who made us loss BUT i've maded a Triple kill just before so...and got revived In fact he wasn't "sitting here" our scouts simply blocked all the way out by 10 explosive remotes while our tank was blocking the other way We blocked him. Well....Have you ever try to get down a Dropship with a Plasma Cannon ? It's pretty Hard. And before playing with AV i was shooting you with Laser Rifle and Mass driver to make you shoot me instead of my teamates, they pass trought and then take the objectives Lost something about 400.000 ISK, was playing ADV but died 8 time. Hmm in fact we were not in a squad, i was playing solo to train me (didn't play since a months) we were also totally blueberries. Seems like we were just randomely set up to destroy this tank. Certainely Amarr gods who decided this destiny. (The 2 forge gunner was Amarr sentinel and our scouts were Amarr, i was Amarr....Funny fact ) That was you? Your damn laser rifle was getting on my nerves no end! As for the tank, well played indeed, from my (rather mobile) perspective all I saw each time I came for another strafing run, was that blue tank in the same damn place. I died 12 in total, but considering I RE'd 3 heavies and logi hacking the point twice, used a mass driver 25% of the time and confirmed 2 kills (kill then terminate) right at the end, I was damn happy, was a fun match by all accounts, was very proud of team I didn't know. Will have green up with you sometime, usually on around 8-10pm UTC+00 
I know that if you're contiunually hit by my laser you can't see what's hitting you (Forge etcetc) making you an obligation to endless watch you Ehp, making you unable to see infantry at ground.
It was you on the Roof with your Mass Driver ? 
I was also with Mass Driver (Commando POWER !) , throw like 8/9 grenads of it on your dropship to make it fall, but it didn't 
Yes was a really fun match, with the Commando Events i won 122 Proto Commando suits Let's wreck them together :D
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