3 complex damage mods, 3 proficiency proto swarms vs 2 complex 1 enhanced heavy repair with level 3 in repair proficiency.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v7AwrgVwNA&feature=youtu.be

Out of curiousity...

What do you mean Active Tanks, and passive Tanks? And What do you mean Damage over time, and burst damage?

(when you describe these can you include the weapon as well please to clarify a little more.)

What makes you think Swarms are Assistant AV? It does not say that in the description of the weapon.

Well technically a pistol is what you call a sidearm because it on your side. I'm a marine and doesn't make any sense to call a weapon a assistant weapon.

As for when weapons are used. Yes you are right, if used correctly the weapon should be devastating as each make and model of every modern weapon is designed for certain purposes.

But my question revolved around "assistant weapons"

So you would classify as rifle as a "assistant weapon" given its a light weapon. how does a rifle assist?

Edit:

I'm not trying to make you feel uncomfortable, I'm just trying to understand your logic and what your trying to say.

Of course that last part is for when proto AV can be balanced against proto vehicles

Okay let me clarify what I am asking...

First off you mentioned "Light weaponry that any class can equip. That's like asking where it says a scrambler pistol is an assistant weapon. It says sidearm, but not assistant." end quote.

So, you said light weapons are considered assistant weapons. So that includes rifles, mass drivers, swarm launchers, and basically anything that is light weaponry. So you were mentioning weapons not relevant to the targets, I just complied to it given the comment of sidearms and light weapons.

But based on your response you want to focus on anti-vehicle weapons, which in that case I don't know why you brought up sidearms.



What I'm asking is how does one label a weapon an "assistant weapon"? Understand the reason we call weapons "weapons" is that they are designed to kill not to assist kills. That why they call it a weapon.


Further more How does AV run on different tiers than anti-personal? We have tiers of milita, basic, advance, and proto.

Edit: Also keep in mind, whats the purpose of having a assist weapons if another weapon is designed to kill the target better? You'd be better of having two Anti Vehicle weapons than 1 anti vehicle weapon and 1 assistant weapon.

Okay, that makes a lot more sense of what your trying to say.

But I am going to be respectfully blunt, I just don't agree with it.

The concept of "wound" or disable to vehicle makes sense until you understand that wounding a triple rep tank basically means you wound him for only 1 second before he completely repped up. That window of opportunity is simply too small unless your using combined arms but that's still only 1 second opportunity.

Now the concept of disable is interesting if it actually disabled the vehicle from moving (disable is more appropriate term than wounding). Now I understand why you call it assistant weaponry but I think the term your mean to use is "Elusive Attacks" which basically means if you can't take them down by force you take them down by means of overcoming their defenses passively. For example attacks like Poison, gas, or anyway to cripple the enemy would be a elusive attack. Essentially engaging while enemy is in a continual weaken state.

Tasers are something else entirely called non-lethal. Used specially to put down targets but to keep them alive. Tasers are not used in warfare because the objective is to kill the enemy.


Now when it comes to Vehicles there is weapons that destroy or support destroying them. These supports are equipment based like the guided laser targets painters. They are passive aggressive. Aggressive weapons are essentially what you see in everyday shooters to take down vehicles like rocket launchers, RPGS, Javelin, Forge Guns, Ect.

So Swarms Launchers are aggressive weapons but offer only 1 second of opportunity to allow concentrated fire. This is not supporting nor is it elusive. Its simply aggressive which means that the weapons design is to destroy it target.

I did see the Fanfest presentation.

So I saw the webifiers and I saw the Energy drainers. If they introduce webifiers than a lot of the Anti-vehicle issue's would be changed in terms of variables.

But I never saw anything about tazers though, you mind providing a link or a youtube video with the timestamp on it?

I can't hit a damn thing using moving blasters :(

40,000 ISK per suit isn't an ISK investment?

25,000,000 SP just for a decked out AV isn't an SP Sink?

I don't want vehicles to be steel coffins, I just don't feel that a tank can just sit there and just laugh at those swarms like in that video. That video isn't news for me, I fully understand that this happens. I've AVed maddy's that had three complex reppers and it was a challenge. Not asking for easy mode just a way that we can close the SMALL gap that's there....