Unrelated to the issue at hand, in all honestly, I'm really against a single player, no matter how dedicated to AV, being able to take on a fully proto-ed tank easily. Eventually yes, a dedicated AV should kill it eventually if not engaged or fled from, but not easily.

If your referring to a forge gun you are still mistaken. I'm full proficiency on an amarr sent with two complex damage mods and the video is much similar to what I experience. I take out more armor then the prof 3 swarms, but that build cannot destroy the maddy (not referring to critical hits).

And buffing swarms will just create a new set of problems. The real problem is the actual design of Av in this game. All Av basically follows a simple slow firing huge burst design. This works in a lot of games because vehicles are free and losing one is of no consequence. In a game like dust there's a cost to running vehicles.

lets take a step back to dropships because they really expound on this problem. A python on a good day can last 3 forge blasts before dying. Now vs one forge this means as long as the python gtfos at first hit he can escape before the forger can kill him. He is largely unkillable unless stupid. Now lets say that we decide to buff forges because we have no good counter to dropships. Now it only takes 2 shots. If the pilot is smart with flying he will still be able to escape but a forger has an excellent chance to kill.

unfortunately this isn't always 1v1. Anything a drop ship pilot meets 2 forgers he's instantly dead without any chance to do anything. This doesn't create good game play especially when the risk in cost is to the tune of 400k vs potentially 2 free suits.

same thing can happen to tanks by having this style of weapon we run the risk of purely alpha striking tanks when more than one swarmer is around just for the cost of having Av be able to solo.(which I'm actually for)

the solution to this is to finally get of the pot and **** and ccp figure out what they want for vehicles. Either they become cheap as dirt glass canons or Av is designed in a manner with high dos, high rof, low dmg per shot weapons where a vehicle will certainly die faster to multiple Av but because the shots are spread over many than just one he can at least react and try to escape, not just be instantly blapped by the first shot.

So yes, we should have a ton more hitpoints, do a ton more damage, and only be vulnerable to certain weapons, and require either teamwork or heavy specialization into those weapons to threaten me. But I should be fitting small turrets in order to combat you on the ground effectively. Just as one shouldn't expect my Eve battleship to fall to a single frigate. It should take at least 3, and very possibly 4-5 frigates to down my battleship. But my battleship has trouble hitting those frigates unless I fit frigate drones to it. Same for small turrets. Those are my infantry defense, while my main turret is for killing other vehicles.

I'd like to see him try against my Geddon. I'll just cycle my reps through his damage. It'll be a stalemate, with both of us being unable to kill the other. Unless he brings in friends to neut me. In which case, my point is proven.

They do now

It can be done now

I use a proto breach FG to 1 shot tanks