Swarms are an assistant AV. Who are you assisting?

What makes you think Swarms are Assistant AV? It does not say that in the description of the weapon.

Favoring function over form, the SMG is a lightweight, semi-automatic weapon designed for close-quarters combat. What it lacks in stopping power and accuracy it grossly overcompensates for with quantity. Designed to injure and impede, the hailstorm of bullets the SMG produces is most effective in tight spaces against multiple targets.

This original design is a paradigm of Minmatar construction. An inelegant, but reliable weapon solution that is simple to produce, easily repaired using almost any available materials, and provides comparable pound-for-pound performance with similar sub-automatic weapons. Although an unabashedly low-tech weapon, it excels at what it was designed for: killing anything right in front of you.

So your telling me that someone would sit there and can take a WBFG blast like a swarm launcher ???

I just know for a fact that's not true , I solo tanks with that gun .

I can almost do it with a DCMA 5 .

Every word I said was true and if you don't believe me, then.. well, that's your problem, not mine.

And I strongly disagree with you. Why are all of you so hell-bent on destroying tanks? Is it not enough if you managed to make it activate its modules and retreat?

That's how it should be. A dedicated AV vs a dedicated tank won't be able to kill the tank, but it will be a huge hindrance to the tank and limit its abilities. Though two or more dedicated AV and the dedicated tank should be in trouble.

No il sacrifice my AV abilitys by using the blaster that way i dont have to bring anyone or even have to rely on a bluedot if i fancy playing solo

Respectfully, increasing the clip will be a lateral move at best. none of the major issues with Swarms will be solved by giving them a 4 round clip.

Well even that is debatable.

You can call in AV anytime....but it is worthless.

You can call in a tank, but meaningful combat is inside socket or building...........tank is worthless.

There are more problems with swarms than just a triple rep maddy. Assault dropships hitting their burner and having a get-out-of-jail free card comes to mind.

Simply increasing the SL clip size will do absolutely nothing for the SL meta-game.

1.REs. Three total will kill it, or two if they are next to/on the weak point.

2. A maxed out assault forge gun can dps it down in 4 shots. Less if one can hit the weakspot.

3. Large railgun. Particle Cannon takes 4 shots, damage mod reduces that to 3, and hitting the weakpoint with a damage mod reduces that to 2.

4. PEs. Lay an RE, switch to your PE, and lay the PE on top of the RE. The double combo does about 2700 damage. Two of these close together pops a repper tank easy.

5. Maxed out breach forge gun can two shot a repper tank, and maybe even one shot if you hit the weakspot.

6. Maxed out swarms, if you begin your attack from behind so the missiles hit the weakspot.

There you go. Begin testing.

All of these tactics involve the use of human intelligence.

You are asking these peasants for too much.

This thread really escalated quickly

Son, I could punch your tank to death.

Left handed.

It's a bad business venture.


You don't know how much I have, and you never offered anything.

What's in it for me?

Yeaaaaaa... if all you have is 60 mil I'm not going to wager my own stash which is noticeably bigger. Good hustle on trying to become not broke though.


But I'll keep on a lookout for you so I can give your tin can a kinetic beatdown.