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Rino514 Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:57:00 - [1] - Quote I was just wondering why does basic and assault variants of combat rifle does have lesser equipment cost than same tier submachine gun and I think ccp should change combat rifles assault variant rof, equipment costs, damage and clip/ammo sizes to same tier submachine gun. In my mind this would make more sense because should submachine guns rof by larger than combat rifle but at the same have smaller damage and i don-¦t understand why submachine gun require more fitting cost than combat rifle. Tell my what you think below
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 680	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:05:00 - [2] - Quote If that stumps you compare proto knives to any proto sidearm except the faylock. My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1787	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:14:00 - [3] - Quote I think you are right on. I'm surprised this doesn't get pointed out more often. I recall a thread or two on this a few months ago and I really wish something would have come of it. It i so messed up that the CR is so easy to fit relative to the SMG and both are Matari weapons.... Double posting like a Kaiser.
Thokk Nightshade Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 99	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:17:00 - [4] - Quote Rino514 wrote: I was just wondering why does basic and assault variants of combat rifle does have lesser equipment cost than same tier submachine gun and I think ccp should change combat rifles assault variant rof, equipment costs, damage and clip/ammo sizes to same tier submachine gun. In my mind this would make more sense because should submachine guns rof by larger than combat rifle but at the same have smaller damage and i don-¦t understand why submachine gun require more fitting cost than combat rifle. Tell my what you think below The fitting costs I agree with. Everything else, I'm going to disagree. It is a primary weapon, not a sidearm. It should have a solid ROF, Damage, and clip/ammo size. However, fitting costs, I am in complete agreement with. If we wanted to bump those a little bit (not that it would change much for proto suits), I'd be in favor. Give it a higher PG/CPU at least in line with an SMG of the same tier.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4040	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:24:00 - [5] - Quote Assault CR takes up less fitting than an Asault SMG. I've never been able to fathom this. They're the most powerful rifle and they're the easiest to fit. Anyone would think CCP doesn't understand balance. No.
Rino514 Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:44:00 - [6] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Rino514 wrote: I was just wondering why does basic and assault variants of combat rifle does have lesser equipment cost than same tier submachine gun and I think ccp should change combat rifles assault variant rof, equipment costs, damage and clip/ammo sizes to same tier submachine gun. In my mind this would make more sense because should submachine guns rof by larger than combat rifle but at the same have smaller damage and i don-¦t understand why submachine gun require more fitting cost than combat rifle. Tell my what you think below The fitting costs I agree with. Everything else, I'm going to disagree. It is a primary weapon, not a sidearm. It should have a solid ROF, Damage, and clip/ammo size. However, fitting costs, I am in complete agreement with. If we wanted to bump those a little bit (not that it would change much for proto suits), I'd be in favor. Give it a higher PG/CPU at least in line with an SMG of the same tier. I meant that assault combat rifle would get submachine guns rof, damage and clip/ammo size and give submachine gun combat rifle assault variant rof, damage and clip/ammo size this way assault variant would get bigger damage and clip/ammo size at cost of lower rof . I think that basic combat rifle should get bigger damage and range that assault variant at cost of clip size and rof but ccp should increase both basic and assault variants fitting cost and lower submachine guns fitting cost because only where submachine gun is better whit these changes are fitting cost and rof as it should by because submachine gun is sidearm it should-¦t by harder to fit than light weapon that is in same tier and rof because submachine guns range and damge ar lower so it can still be good in cqc. by the way sorry if i have bad english
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 378	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:47:00 - [7] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Rino514 wrote: I was just wondering why does basic and assault variants of combat rifle does have lesser equipment cost than same tier submachine gun and I think ccp should change combat rifles assault variant rof, equipment costs, damage and clip/ammo sizes to same tier submachine gun. In my mind this would make more sense because should submachine guns rof by larger than combat rifle but at the same have smaller damage and i don-¦t understand why submachine gun require more fitting cost than combat rifle. Tell my what you think below The fitting costs I agree with. Everything else, I'm going to disagree. It is a primary weapon, not a sidearm. It should have a solid ROF, Damage, and clip/ammo size. However, fitting costs, I am in complete agreement with. If we wanted to bump those a little bit (not that it would change much for proto suits), I'd be in favor. Give it a higher PG/CPU at least in line with an SMG of the same tier. This. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 680	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:04:00 - [8] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Rino514 wrote: I was just wondering why does basic and assault variants of combat rifle does have lesser equipment cost than same tier submachine gun and I think ccp should change combat rifles assault variant rof, equipment costs, damage and clip/ammo sizes to same tier submachine gun. In my mind this would make more sense because should submachine guns rof by larger than combat rifle but at the same have smaller damage and i don-¦t understand why submachine gun require more fitting cost than combat rifle. Tell my what you think below The fitting costs I agree with. Everything else, I'm going to disagree. It is a primary weapon, not a sidearm. It should have a solid ROF, Damage, and clip/ammo size. However, fitting costs, I am in complete agreement with. If we wanted to bump those a little bit (not that it would change much for proto suits), I'd be in favor. Give it a higher PG/CPU at least in line with an SMG of the same tier. Why would you increase the cr, and not decrease the smg? Compare the AR, Cr and smg for instance and then say knives and RR, then the races they belong too. Min weapons have low pg caldari have high pg and cost is outrageous for a six kin Cr , plus min suits have horrid pg, my adv gal scout has higher CPU an pg than my adv min assault. And a proto magsec is almost 20 000 isk cheaper than my ish smg. If this is a under the radar CR nerf and I'm not buying , sorry bout ur luck but if you wanna nerf it don't play some fake angle just be blunt. My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!
Rino514 Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:28:00 - [9] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Rino514 wrote: I was just wondering why does basic and assault variants of combat rifle does have lesser equipment cost than same tier submachine gun and I think ccp should change combat rifles assault variant rof, equipment costs, damage and clip/ammo sizes to same tier submachine gun. In my mind this would make more sense because should submachine guns rof by larger than combat rifle but at the same have smaller damage and i don-¦t understand why submachine gun require more fitting cost than combat rifle. Tell my what you think below The fitting costs I agree with. Everything else, I'm going to disagree. It is a primary weapon, not a sidearm. It should have a solid ROF, Damage, and clip/ammo size. However, fitting costs, I am in complete agreement with. If we wanted to bump those a little bit (not that it would change much for proto suits), I'd be in favor. Give it a higher PG/CPU at least in line with an SMG of the same tier. Why would you increase the cr, and not decrease the smg? Compare the AR, Cr and smg for instance and then say knives and RR, then the races they belong too. Min weapons have low pg caldari have high pg and cost is outrageous for a six kin Cr , plus min suits have horrid pg, my adv gal scout has higher CPU an pg than my adv min assault. And a proto magsec is almost 20 000 isk cheaper than my ish smg. If this is a under the radar CR nerf and I'm not buying , sorry bout ur luck but if you wanna nerf it don't play some fake angle just be blunt. No im not trying to nerf combat rifle but i don`t think it is right that combat rifle has lower fitting requiments that submachine gun has because other is light weapon and other is sidearm and im not sure because not playing right now but do combat rifle have lowest fitting cost of all rifles correct my if i am wrong. Stats that i propose would bring combat rifle rof down but bring some other stats up and im not talking prizes or fitting cost of other items in game this only for submachine gun and combat rifle changes but reason i think your ish smg is costing more is because it is more special than normal smg and magsec dosen`t have special version of it
Thokk Nightshade Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 103	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:36:00 - [10] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Rino514 wrote: I was just wondering why does basic and assault variants of combat rifle does have lesser equipment cost than same tier submachine gun and I think ccp should change combat rifles assault variant rof, equipment costs, damage and clip/ammo sizes to same tier submachine gun. In my mind this would make more sense because should submachine guns rof by larger than combat rifle but at the same have smaller damage and i don-¦t understand why submachine gun require more fitting cost than combat rifle. Tell my what you think below The fitting costs I agree with. Everything else, I'm going to disagree. It is a primary weapon, not a sidearm. It should have a solid ROF, Damage, and clip/ammo size. However, fitting costs, I am in complete agreement with. If we wanted to bump those a little bit (not that it would change much for proto suits), I'd be in favor. Give it a higher PG/CPU at least in line with an SMG of the same tier. Why would you increase the cr, and not decrease the smg? Compare the AR, Cr and smg for instance and then say knives and RR, then the races they belong too. Min weapons have low pg caldari have high pg and cost is outrageous for a six kin Cr , plus min suits have horrid pg, my adv gal scout has higher CPU an pg than my adv min assault. And a proto magsec is almost 20 000 isk cheaper than my ish smg. If this is a under the radar CR nerf and I'm not buying , sorry bout ur luck but if you wanna nerf it don't play some fake angle just be blunt. I would be O.K. with that as well. If people would rather decrease SMG fittings to bring them in line with the CR, I'd be O.K. with that as well. Just to be clear, I'm not talking ISK cost. I'm talking PG/CPU cost. I'm just agreeing with the OP that an SMG shouldn't have a higher fit cost than a primary weapon (in this case, CR). I specifically stated no change to the ROF, Damage, or clip/ammo size. I'm not calling for a nerf for the CR at all. I personally love my CR and am worried about all the people whining about it and it getting nerfed post Fanfest.

Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 381	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:38:00 - [11] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: I would be O.K. with that as well. If people would rather decrease SMG fittings to bring them in line with the CR, I'd be O.K. with that as well. Just to be clear, I'm not talking ISK cost. I'm talking PG/CPU cost. I'm just agreeing with the OP that an SMG shouldn't have a higher fit cost than a primary weapon (in this case, CR). I specifically stated no change to the ROF, Damage, or clip/ammo size. I'm not calling for a nerf for the CR at all. I personally love my CR and am worried about all the people whining about it and it getting nerfed post Fanfest. There is totally a CR nerf coming. I'll continue using it regardless, but it's coming. Even though I think the RR needs a nerf more than the CR. But that's just me. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
Rino514 Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:59:00 - [12] - Quote Reason why i propse this ideas of change stats was`t to nerf CR. How i think this is that SMG should by better cqc than CR not by much but by little and by giving CR assault variant stats to same tier SMG and giving same tier SMG stats to same tier CR assault varriant. This would make it so that CR would have higher damage, Ammo on magazine and vice bullets at cost of 200 - 100 rof and submachine gun gets higher rof but lost as cost damge and magazine size and vice bullets


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