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CPL Bloodstone
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:21:00 -
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I think any corp new/old should be able to purchase a district for 36 million. Moves 120 clones into the district and they now own it. This district Does NOT produce isk only clones. If an attack is made against the district or clones sent from the district there is NO payout for the battle. This district cannot be captured like standard districts. IF they are cloned out or lose, then the battle is over and The district is offline until its next reinforcement timer.
1) These districts would be located in high sec. (Normal pvp rules apply in eve). 2) This district can be used to attack low sec (isk producing districts) however, there are no payouts, only salvage. 3) Only lasts 1 month and a payment can be made for 36 or a lower amount tbd. 4) Only 2 can owned at any given time by a corp. I believe this will allow all corps to do pc, at a low cost. It allows for more strategic battles to take place.
Just an idea, thoughts?
If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
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pseudosnipre
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:23:00 -
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I think FanFest starts in a day or two and your ideas will quickly become OBE.
Sorry, have a like.
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML
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CPL Bloodstone
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
291
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:28:00 -
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possibly but can't hurt for trying.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:30:00 -
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How about you cant sell to NPC corps also
Other than that +1
-holds arms in O-throw it in the story basket bro
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CPL Bloodstone
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:31:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:How about you cant sell to NPC corps
My idea isn't about making Isk, its an alternative to corp battles and allows corps to try to break into PC without the threat of compeltely getting kicked out of PC.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:47:00 -
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Other corps want to play PC but can't match up against most of DNS peoples.
DNS would say, "but its good practice for these lowbie corps" which in reality, 5 capping them all day AND feeling good about it doesn't help anyone.
Bigolenuts made a post in the War room which actually made a lot of sense.
A 3 tier system where the avg SP of corps are taken and place in SP brackets. It makes no sense for a top tier corp to smash out lowbie corps that are barely fielding half proto. However in turn, lower tiers can attack higher tiers but not vice versa.
copper - 0 - 10 mil sp (high) Silver - 10-25 mil sp (low) Gold - 25+mil sp (null)
This gives noobs that little bit of extra content this game has to offer to perhaps help the NPE. Currently you have to almost play dust for 4-5 months before welcomed into PC. Sounds terrible for any new upcoming Dust studs.
Unfortunately for any of this **** to happen we need to develop the NPE and get our Dust population up before us vets crash this game into the ground.
So really what DNS should be doing is helping newbies that actually show great interest in the game and help develop dust's future. OH has been working on its Academy to help train and develop <10mil sp players.
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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:02:00 -
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I like the idea of renting space in hisec, but I think the concept needs more development. Producing clones at the rate PC districts currently produce clones would disincentivize people from purchasing clone packs and reduce the ISK sink. Maybe if you only produce 5 clones per day on these districts it would balance out. But I'm not sure how you prevent people from selling those clones when they're ostensibly the same as clones produced in lowsec.
Once they roll out PVE district maintenance tasks (routing out rogue drones, fending off invasions, putting down rebellions or what have you), along with DUST industry, it might be worth renting a district independent of clone production. Then there might be more to this idea. You might even have some kinds of PVE tasks that are specific to hisec, e.g., stuff you're doing on behalf of Concord.
I'm sure there will be announcements this week about PC, so let's see what happens.
The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
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CPL Bloodstone
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:41:00 -
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i dont like the whole mentallity of get gud. its counterproductive. I don't like the idea of a tiered system only because of what people do in the newbie area. They remake merc's, go stomping in the newbie zone and destroy's any chance they have of learning. A tiered system is no better. Just old mercs bringing alts to stomp.
Though reading the posts id like to have it that you cannot attack a high sec district from a lowsec district.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:51:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote: i dont like the whole mentallity of get gud. its counterproductive. I don't like the idea of a tiered system only because of what people do in the newbie area. They remake merc's, go stomping in the newbie zone and destroy's any chance they have of learning. A tiered system is no better. Just old mercs bringing alts to stomp.
Though reading the posts id like to have it that you cannot attack a high sec district from a lowsec district.
Very true about smurfing. However, what is the likely hood that 10-16 vets will troll that hard on the same team with their <10mil alts.
.....wait, I forget this game is rampant of a$sholes and trolls. Which is why a cap on lowbie districts is necessary to minimize the troll smurf factor. I threw out 3 districts total, once at that cap cannot attack. It's all really wishful thinking of things that will never happen. =)
Regardless, noobs fighting on a more even SP playing field in PCs would still help significantly. If early competitive content is there, more chance for new FPS vets to come check out dust.
Game needs more content for lowbies. |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:53:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:How about you cant sell to NPC corps also
Other than that +1 Then what would be the incentive to play PC as opposed to q-syncing FW matches?
Proposed Mobile CRU Changes
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CPL Bloodstone
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:How about you cant sell to NPC corps also
Other than that +1 Then what would be the incentive to play PC as opposed to q-syncing FW matches?
Could be used for training. Ive paid personally for the other team not to show up to i can train new pilots how to crash er fly dropships without the stress of real combat. It really really helped. We had jeep races and tank races and all kinds of fun you would not normally have due to the nature of a normal match.
What do i know, im just a scrub
If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
307
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:43:00 -
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Wrote this in another thread but similarly applies.
Titus Stryker wrote:interesting idea and something that I could definitely support...just not in PC.
The purpose of PC in my opinion is to further the link between DUST and EVE, it is suppose to add meaning to the battles..."real consequences" and deepen the immersion into New Eden.
However, I like your premise and think that it could be implemented if and when we get Battle Arenas. Battle Arenas will be the place for competitive corp matches, corp rankings, player ranking based on matches and not stats. Battle Arenas will add a lot to this game and your system of tiers for corps could be included...again, just not in PC.
I stream DUST on YouTube
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
437
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:52:00 -
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Simple fix to PC-> fight instead of blueing up
another one bites the Dust...
Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
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CPL Bloodstone
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:54:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:Simple fix to PC-> fight instead of blueing up
I have been fighting, you
If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:58:00 -
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+1. Security status is meaningless in Dust atm, which is foolish.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
437
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:03:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Your Absolut End wrote:Simple fix to PC-> fight instead of blueing up I have been fighting, you
Thats true. Still, the most simple fix to PC would probably NOT to exploit it :D
another one bites the Dust...
Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
437
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:05:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Your Absolut End wrote:Simple fix to PC-> fight instead of blueing up I have been fighting, you
Thats true. Still, the most simple fix to PC would probably NOT to exploit it :D
another one bites the Dust...
Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
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taxi bastard
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:24:00 -
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my solution is simple.
defending mercs have to choose one planet to be based on. they can only defend on that planet. transport to another planet takes 1 day and no defence or attack can be done during transit. if you attack a planet you cannot defend for 24 hours until you get back to your based planet.
there ........ PC is opened up. |
Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2281
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:29:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Other corps want to play PC but can't match up against most of DNS peoples.
DNS would say, "but its good practice for these lowbie corps" which in reality, 5 capping them all day AND feeling good about it doesn't help anyone.
Bigolenuts made a post in the War room which actually made a lot of sense.
A 3 tier system where the avg SP of corps are taken and place in SP brackets. It makes no sense for a top tier corp to smash out lowbie corps that are barely fielding half proto. However in turn, lower tiers can attack higher tiers but not vice versa. If anything have a cap on districts attainable per bracket. (3, 10, infinite)
copper - 0 - 10 mil sp (high) Silver - 10-25 mil sp (low) Gold - 25+mil sp (null)
This gives noobs that little bit of extra content this game has to offer to perhaps help the NPE. Currently you have to almost play dust for 4-5 months before welcomed into PC. Sounds terrible for any new upcoming Dust studs.
Unfortunately for any of this **** to happen we need to develop the NPE and get our Dust population up before us vets crash this game into the ground.
So really what DNS should be doing is helping newbies that actually show great interest in the game and help develop dust's future. OH has been working on its Academy to help train and develop <10mil sp players.
One day DNS will do something helpful for the community hopefully.
Please none of the "Welcome to New Eden, Git gud" sh!t, having 4k players logged at a time is **** poor. Top end corps have so much power at their disposal to do something good. I almost feel we have to expect PvE alternative is not gonna be here this next year, hopefully fan fest proves us wrong. 10m sp? We have lots of players around that amount and lower Hell I've been around since the first day of closed beta and I'm almost at 28m sp
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CPL Bloodstone
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:47:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Your Absolut End wrote:Simple fix to PC-> fight instead of blueing up I have been fighting, you Thats true. Still, the most simple fix to PC would probably NOT to exploit it :D
some might be but me personally and my guys are not. Just been having fun fighting KEQ / STB. really fun fights!
If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2282
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:55:00 -
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Bloodstone no one else will say it.. But thank you for trying to fix PC.. For everyone else it's going to be fixed if you have any ideas then now is a good time to say them. As a community we need to come up with what we want PC to be and it's uses.
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2282
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:59:00 -
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http://youtu.be/SvDKbiUnxTA http://youtu.be/ED-YF-v7WCw http://youtu.be/Hat4psYcvII http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 Hope this helps
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:02:00 -
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Whoa! what game is that? I wanna play!
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2282
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:08:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Whoa! what game is that? I wanna play! t( >.< t) We need it to go back to the PC version but maybe ccp will work on it to be like this again if they see it and enough people like it
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:14:00 -
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The problems I see with PC is is firstly that the playground is just too damn small. There are 1,107 mercs in DNS and only 245 districts in Molden Heath and DNS owns 241 of them which means that they have around 4 mercs per district which would be a problem for them if the majority of their timers where at the same time on the same days but they're not. The most districts they have on the same timer on the same day is 69 which leaves them at 16 clones for each of those districts. Of course not everyone can or will be on for the matches and others are alts but it's not likely all those districts would be attacked simultaneously and if they are, that's what ringers are for.
Now just imagine how hard it would be to defend those 241 districts if they all were on the same timer; it's one thing to find a handful of ringers for a handful of matches but it would be miraculous to find 2,892 ringers for 241 matches.
The 2nd and main problem is we've got top ranked players in corps that are allied with each other. I'm not going to call them cowards but if they're looking for a challenge then they shouldn't be in an alliance together. It doesn't matter how much land there is if the majority of every one in PC is sitting around the same bonfire.
Support Orbital Spawns
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:43:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The problems I see with PC is is firstly that the playground is just too damn small. There are 1,107 mercs in DNS and only 245 districts in Molden Heath and DNS owns 241 of them which means that they have around 4 mercs per district which would be a problem for them if the majority of their timers where at the same time on the same days but they're not. The most districts they have on the same timer on the same day is 69 which leaves them at 16 clones for each of those districts. Of course not everyone can or will be on for the matches and others are alts but it's not likely all those districts would be attacked simultaneously and if they are, that's what ringers are for.
Now just imagine how hard it would be to defend those 241 districts if they all were on the same timer; it's one thing to find a handful of ringers for a handful of matches but it would be miraculous to find 2,892 ringers for 241 matches.
The 2nd and main problem is we've got top ranked players in corps that are allied with each other. I'm not going to call them cowards but if they're looking for a challenge then they shouldn't be in an alliance together. It doesn't matter how much land there is if the majority of every one in PC is sitting around the same bonfire. See my links? That's what I'm talking about for PC. Yes DNS ruined PC for others but if not us some other group would have.. We just want our game back and this isn't it...
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
6020
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:54:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The problems I see with PC is is firstly that the playground is just too damn small. There are 1,107 mercs in DNS and only 245 districts in Molden Heath and DNS owns 241 of them which means that they have around 4 mercs per district which would be a problem for them if the majority of their timers where at the same time on the same days but they're not. The most districts they have on the same timer on the same day is 69 which leaves them at 16 clones for each of those districts. Of course not everyone can or will be on for the matches and others are alts but it's not likely all those districts would be attacked simultaneously and if they are, that's what ringers are for.
Now just imagine how hard it would be to defend those 241 districts if they all were on the same timer; it's one thing to find a handful of ringers for a handful of matches but it would be miraculous to find 2,892 ringers for 241 matches.
The 2nd and main problem is we've got top ranked players in corps that are allied with each other. I'm not going to call them cowards but if they're looking for a challenge then they shouldn't be in an alliance together. It doesn't matter how much land there is if the majority of every one in PC is sitting around the same bonfire. agreed, these 'big bad' corps are so scared of their own alliance they don't stop to think of rebelling, why fight when you can just jump on the train to glory.
Nothing to do with me though. *shrugs*
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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