DUST Search - Cloaks -vs- HDMI -vs- Standard def

Scrub Zero wrote:

Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:

Scrub Zero wrote:

Kaminoikari wrote:

Scrub Zero wrote:

All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def.
I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break.........

B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous!

Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months.

you did a pretty awful job of raising your kids, there's no way in hell i'd ever admit something like that to anyone

How stupid are you? My kids are 7 and 8. Half the kids who play this game have broken controllers/tv's.
You never threw a fit as a kid?
Disreguard first question. I already know the answer.

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Scrub Zero Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:22:00 - [1] - Quote All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break.........
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 173	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:26:00 - [2] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Scrub Zero Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:33:00 - [3] - Quote Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 383	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:35:00 - [4] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. Yer nicer than I. After TV 2, they would have been lacking a TV GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9109	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:41:00 - [5] - Quote My glorious 47' LED TV makes me laugh at all the puny tube TV people. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 3075	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:44:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: My glorious 47' LED TV makes me laugh at all the puny tube TV people. 23' :( Wait it's a monitor so w/e ak.0 // 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees. Jillic gave me my 3000th like!
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 968	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:44:00 - [7] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. Yer nicer than I. After TV 2, they would have been lacking a home Fixed
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2254	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:45:00 - [8] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. Yer nicer than I. After TV 2, they would have been lacking a TV I believe the phrase is, "This is why you can't have nice things." Nerdier than thou
Alex-P-Keaton Kramer Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 119	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:46:00 - [9] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. you did a pretty awful job of raising your kids, there's no way in hell i'd ever admit something like that to anyone http://i58.tinypic.com/15f3muh.png http://i57.tinypic.com/301n33b.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/30c4pwk.jpg
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3142	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:48:00 - [10] - Quote I can't feel that bad tbh. You can pick up a 32 inch LCD TV for Craigslist for $100-150 bucks. Even at bestbuy the TVs are pretty cheap. And I'm advocating that everyone should get a new TV just to play dust, but I mean..it's cheap enough that you don't have to break the bank just for a new TV(I waited a long time to upgrade my old giant back TV to a LCD) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2254	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:54:00 - [11] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I can't feel that bad tbh. You can pick up a 32 inch LCD TV for Craigslist for $100-150 bucks. Even at bestbuy the TVs are pretty cheap. And I'm advocating that everyone should get a new TV just to play dust, but I mean..it's cheap enough that you don't have to break the bank just for a new TV(I waited a long time to upgrade my old giant back TV to a LCD) Yeah really. You can get a new 24 inch full-HD monitor with a HDMI in on Amazon for $150. That's what I play on. Set up your space so it's maybe 3-4 feet away from your face and you can see absolutely everything. I've never been snuck up on by a cloaked scout from the front like in Judge's video- not once. I can see a cloaked scout from 75m+ away. http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VS247H-P-23-6-Inch-Full-HD-LED-Lit/dp/B005BZNDS0/ This one comes with various presets- the game mode really boosts the contrast and saturation, color changes like the blue scout shimmer stick out like a sore thumb. Nerdier than thou
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 258	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:54:00 - [12] - Quote Wow What's next1) cloak op because I'm color blind 2)Cloak op because my controller only has one working joystick 3)Cloak op because my dog distracts me when they attack 4)cloak op because I can only play after homework 5)cloak op because because spelling cloak is to much work 6)cloak op because I just finish battle academy 7)cloak op because I'm not crying about heavies yet 8)cloak op because their characters get cool blue auras when moving 9)cloak op because I can't hit them with lavs 10)cloak op because I'm up to 10
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1519	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:22:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: My glorious 47' LED TV makes me laugh at all the puny tube TV people. I've got a 56'
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1937	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:37:00 - [14] - Quote Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. you did a pretty awful job of raising your kids, there's no way in hell i'd ever admit something like that to anyone My youngest broke the TV him and his brother had in their room by throwing a Skylander at his brother, missing and hitting the TV. They have no TV in their room now and need to secure permission to use any of the other 3 we have in the house. Yes, Democracy exists outside the front door, inside the house, not so much. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 147	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:55:00 - [15] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... Zero, it's hilarious how your thread on the Cloak render, became a chat about Hi-Fi television that Ralph Cramden never wanted to shell out money for. But on point, I DO confirm your assessment of the cloak render. I play Dust alternately on two different PS3s, but off the same LCD television monitor. One console is outputting HDMI with full-white in the video options---and the other PS3 is outputting 720p over an S-Video cable. The monitor is great at decifering the best quality from both, and when you're running around in HDMI you SEE when the cloaker is making mistakes that reveal himself to you. (But only if you remember CCP's DESCRIPTION of how the cloak field behaves when being used... otherwise, you just dismiss what your eye sees as a graphic glitch in your 720p game.) In HDMI, 've made several kills to cloakers who "exceeded the ability of their cloak field", usually strafing them as they flee until a "kill" credit come up on the HUD. I've had to tweak my S-video image (THROUGH the Dust brightness/detail/image-ratio settings in the menu, NOT my tv or PS3 picture), in order to increase my cloaker-kills on the 720p-output PS3. It's sitll not as easy to "see" the sneaky pest in 720 as it is in HDMI. If the cloak effect works this way for all players, I think the render is JUST RIGHT. It's just on the edge between being exploitable by an experienced player who wants to "hunt cloak-boys", and being soft enough that less-masterful players will DISMISS what they may be seeing (actually being given the clues, but ignoring them because they're in the middle of getting some other thing done that's just as important and urgent). It's just adding another layer of "situation awareness" to your survival on the maps. Those of you with 480i monitors or tiny screens: Go into the Dust menu while you're safely at the beginning of the match, and experiment with the "detail", "brightness", and especially "image ratio" (the right name....someone please confirm for us),... until you get the tweak that helps you pick up the cloak-clues better! The sooner we start slaughtering cloaker wholesale, the sooner the cloaking will calm down to a more conservative level of use.
Scrub Zero Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:56:00 - [16] - Quote Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. you did a pretty awful job of raising your kids, there's no way in hell i'd ever admit something like that to anyone How stupid are you? My kids are 7 and 8. Half the kids who play this game have broken controllers/tv's. You never threw a fit as a kid? Disreguard first question. I already know the answer.
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 428	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:13:00 - [17] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. you did a pretty awful job of raising your kids, there's no way in hell i'd ever admit something like that to anyone How stupid are you? My kids are 7 and 8. Half the kids who play this game have broken controllers/tv's. You never threw a fit as a kid? Disreguard first question. I already know the answer. THIS!!! I don't even have kids and I know kids are going to break things. My nephews had Nintendo 3DS. They broke them by throwing one another's DS in anger at walls, floors and even my oldest nephew breaking one of the younger's one DS in half with his hands. Kids just like to break things. xD It's in their nature to break things. I'll play the blues for you. -- Albert King
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 495	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:16:00 - [18] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: All TV's are NOT alike. I have noticed that it next to imposible to see a cloaked scout on my projection TV. Yet they are clear as day on my plasma TV. Id imagine CCP only tested cloaks on HDMI/hi def. I truly feel bad for the noobs with older TV's. They just can't get a break......... B-But, my old tube TV has lasted ~21 years! They can't just bend me over like that without at least giving a reach around. That's blasphemous! Seriously though, my kids have to use an old ass TV. I think this one is from the 90's. Kids don't take care of anything. They had two new ones and broke them both. Flat screen was knocked over and another one got a controller thrown at it. Salvation army tv it is. The sad part is...... The $5 tv has lasted 2 years.. $300 tv 2 months. you did a pretty awful job of raising your kids, there's no way in hell i'd ever admit something like that to anyone How stupid are you? My kids are 7 and 8. Half the kids who play this game have broken controllers/tv's. You never threw a fit as a kid? Disreguard first question. I already know the answer. I know a lot of kids have "temper" issues when they get frustrated with something, no matter how they are raised, so not all the blame can be put on the parents, but I never threw my controller, or any other stuff I had, anywhere no matter how angry I was, because I was made clear about one thing right away, whatever stuff I was given, if I broke it directly intentionally, or indirectly intentionally, I would not be getting it back. The only chance of getting something back that I broke was if it was pure, honest accident. So, that's the code I had to live by and whenever I was angry at anything, I would break my parent's stuff because if I can't have nice things, then they can't either, lol. Clearly at this age I've grown out of such things, kinda.. sorta... well, a bit. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
G Torq ALTA B2O 763	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:25:00 - [19] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: THIS!!! I don't even have kids and I know kids are going to break things. My nephews had Nintendo 3DS. They broke them by throwing one another's DS in anger at walls, floors and even my oldest nephew breaking one of the younger's one DS in half with his hands. Kids just like to break things. xD It's in their nature to break things. Teaching your kids how to react and deal with situations is part of parenting - letting them break stuff in fits of rage is, in my opinion, wrong. Note: That doesn't mean they shouldn't express how they feel. Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 565	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:18:00 - [20] - Quote G Torq wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: THIS!!! I don't even have kids and I know kids are going to break things. My nephews had Nintendo 3DS. They broke them by throwing one another's DS in anger at walls, floors and even my oldest nephew breaking one of the younger's one DS in half with his hands. Kids just like to break things. xD It's in their nature to break things. Teaching your kids how to react and deal with situations is part of parenting - letting them break stuff in fits of rage is, in my opinion, wrong. Note: That doesn't mean they shouldn't express how they feel. Do you know how I can tell you don't have kids? "We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5241	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:51:00 - [21] - Quote Tek Hound wrote: Wow What's next1) cloak op because I'm color blind 2)Cloak op because my controller only has one working joystick 3)Cloak op because my dog distracts me when they attack 4)cloak op because I can only play after homework 5)cloak op because because spelling cloak is to much work 6)cloak op because I just finish battle academy 7)cloak op because I'm not crying about heavies yet 8)cloak op because their characters get cool blue auras when moving 9)cloak op because I can't hit them with lavs 10)cloak op because I'm up to 10 1) I've seen this used as an argument already. 2) That would be "everyone but me OP because..." 3) I've heard "I have children" used in team voice as a reason why cloak was OP. 4) This sounds like a legit reason for cloak to be OP. 5) You spelt "CLAAAAAAKE?!" wrong. 6) See 2. 7) Cloaked Commando isn't OP. 8) I've seen this argument before. Anyone tried combining cloak with the "super saiyan" glitch? 9) Closest I've seen to this was "cloaks aren't OP because I keep accidentally getting roadkill on people I never even saw". 10) You missed one. 11) THIS IS SPINAL TAP.
Izlare Lenix Arrogance. Caps and Mercs 526	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:00:00 - [22] - Quote My parents raised me very well. I never got away with anything. But I still did stupid **** and I still broke things. No matter how good or bad a boy is raised, they will still do stupid things without thinking about the consequences. It's in our nature. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.


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