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Volf Belfang
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:13:00 -
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Hi,
Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women.
Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect.
Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about.
I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1293
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:23:00 -
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You shouldn't generalize and think the "c" word is offensive to women, that statement itself is sexist.
In my opinion of your event in game, as long as they are not threatening you, then there shouldn't be a problem.
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3883
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:26:00 -
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I recall some games (like Everquest) had a name filter that would block all sorts of things, but had a further system for people to petition in game if they saw names that got through the automated filter.
It wasn't just obscene names, but names that referenced works of fiction outside of the game, and so on. It's possible they're lazy about it now. I can only imagine how many petitions were about names early on. The naming policy from Project 1999 gives you the idea:
Quote:Vile, profane, rude, or racist names including common swear words, anatomical references, racial slurs, and homonyms of these words. Combinations of words that produce an offensive result (e.g. Hugeazz, Tug Mcgroin). Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin). Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony). Names from popular media. These names can be either fictional (e.g. Rambo, Darthvader) or non-fictional (e.g. Garth Brooks, Pierce Brosnan, George Washington, Michael Jordan). Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis). Proper names from EverQuest (e.g. Rathe, Karana). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Karn). The names of senior Customer Support Representatives or developers of Project 1999 (e.g. Nilbog, Rogean, Uthgaard). Names chosen with the intent or possessed with the effect of harming the reputation of a player or Customer Service Representative. Forenames containing titles within them, such as, but not limited to: The, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father (e.g. Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister). Names that contain sentences (Ikillorcs), phrases (Ontop), or two or more words that do not form descriptive compound words (Petcarbob, Diediedie and Tablechair). Descriptive compound words are allowed in first names and are encouraged in surnames (e.g. Treehugger, Giantslayer). Descriptive compound words (each separate part of the word and the entire word) must otherwise adhere to all other naming rules. Fantasy-oriented names which are easily recognized from popular existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Drizzt). Names where the combination of the first and last name forms a phrase or violate a previous rule (e.g. Crymea River, Bran Muffin, Story Thyme). For all of the above, misspellings and alternative spellings (such as spelling it backwards) of the word or words are also unacceptable. For all of the above, any foreign variations are also unacceptable. If a player petitions a name he or she feels is offensive in a foreign language, all rules set forth shall be applied.
It would be interesting to see them actually enforce something like that in Dust. I think 80-90% of people would be stuck changing their names.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1351
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:30:00 -
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Volf Belfang wrote:Hi, Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women. Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect. Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about. I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours
I had an alt with an offensive name and 7 mil SP. I petitioned CCP to change it so I could let my son use it. They sent me a polite"we don't give a flyingfuck about you or your kid"
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
duna corp
1108
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:30:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:I recall some games (like Everquest) had a name filter that would block all sorts of things, but had a further system for people to petition in game if they saw names that got through the automated filter. It wasn't just obscene names, but names that referenced works of fiction outside of the game, and so on. It's possible they're lazy about it now. I can only imagine how many petitions were about names early on. The naming policy from Project 1999 gives you the idea: Quote:Vile, profane, rude, or racist names including common swear words, anatomical references, racial slurs, and homonyms of these words. Combinations of words that produce an offensive result (e.g. Hugeazz, Tug Mcgroin). Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin). Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony). Names from popular media. These names can be either fictional (e.g. Rambo, Darthvader) or non-fictional (e.g. Garth Brooks, Pierce Brosnan, George Washington, Michael Jordan). Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis). Proper names from EverQuest (e.g. Rathe, Karana). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Karn). The names of senior Customer Support Representatives or developers of Project 1999 (e.g. Nilbog, Rogean, Uthgaard). Names chosen with the intent or possessed with the effect of harming the reputation of a player or Customer Service Representative. Forenames containing titles within them, such as, but not limited to: The, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father (e.g. Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister). Names that contain sentences (Ikillorcs), phrases (Ontop), or two or more words that do not form descriptive compound words (Petcarbob, Diediedie and Tablechair). Descriptive compound words are allowed in first names and are encouraged in surnames (e.g. Treehugger, Giantslayer). Descriptive compound words (each separate part of the word and the entire word) must otherwise adhere to all other naming rules. Fantasy-oriented names which are easily recognized from popular existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Drizzt). Names where the combination of the first and last name forms a phrase or violate a previous rule (e.g. Crymea River, Bran Muffin, Story Thyme). For all of the above, misspellings and alternative spellings (such as spelling it backwards) of the word or words are also unacceptable. For all of the above, any foreign variations are also unacceptable. If a player petitions a name he or she feels is offensive in a foreign language, all rules set forth shall be applied. It would be interesting to see them actually enforce something like that in Dust. I think 80-90% of people would be stuck changing their names. Many things in this list shouldn't be censored...
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
1150
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:31:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2031
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:50:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:You shouldn't generalize and think the "c" word is offensive to women, that statement itself is sexist.
In my opinion of your event in game, as long as they are not threatening you, then there shouldn't be a problem.
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily.
Delt, you need to read EVEs naming policy. It's not about part of life, or being an adult; its about the rules as set by this games governing body; CCP. For example this bit "in-game names may not : Be obscene, vulgar, sexually explicit"
the "c" word as the squeamish call it is a vulgar word. See any dictionary definition, such as the Oxford one here. This is not an opinion, it is by definition vulgar.
My advice OP is do what I do. Note their names. Wait until they have enough WP to get to about 15 million SP (means they are committed and attached to their character). Send them that link and remind them that their name will be changed to player000034 if CCP do act on a complaint about their name. Point out that you are low on ISK and ask if they are feeling generous enough to gift you some as a thank you for pointing out their name might be at risk of being changed.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1294
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:55:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You shouldn't generalize and think the "c" word is offensive to women, that statement itself is sexist.
In my opinion of your event in game, as long as they are not threatening you, then there shouldn't be a problem.
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily. Delt, you need to read EVEs naming policy. It's not about part of life, or being an adult; its about the rules as set by this games governing body; CCP. For example this bit "in-game names may not : Be obscene, vulgar, sexually explicit" the "c" word as the squeamish call it is a vulgar word. See any dictionary definition, such as the Oxford one here. This is not an opinion, it is by definition vulgar. My advice OP is do what I do. Note their names. Wait until they have enough WP to get to about 15 million SP (means they are committed and attached to their character). Send them that link and remind them that their name will be changed to player000034 if CCP do act on a complaint about their name. Point out that you are low on ISK and ask if they are feeling generous enough to gift you some.
He asked for players opinions, not CCP's policy on the matters. In understand its against the rules, and why it would be, I just have a general outlook on life that these sorts of rules are very nanny state like which I'm very against. (This does not mean im going to break sead rules)
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3883
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Posted - 2014.04.28 08:30:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote: **stuff** I think 80-90% of people would be stuck changing their names. Many things in this list shouldn't be censored...
Yeah. I was talking with someone earlier about games that had stricter naming policies, and Everquest's came up as being one of the stricter ones.
Interestingly, people could sometimes fly under the radar by stealing names from lesser known fantasy. So, people might know "Gandalf" or "Drizzt", but at the time (98/99, or whatever) a name like "Cersei Lannister" or "Rand Al'Thor" might've gone unnoticed by the average player or GM.
So, you wind up with an awkward situation down the road where someone reports you after it becomes more obvious because your name was featured in a TV show or has been in 14 books instead of 2.
In theory, Everquest's naming policy would be good for enforcing names appropriate to the setting (No Schlongmaster2000 in your elven kingdoms). Dust seems to be pretty far in the other direction with names that aren't just odd for the setting, but are often *trying* to be offensive, vulgar, or just juvenile (your Dixie Wrecked, etc.). I think the degree of difference there is somewhat amusing.
I don't personally expect all gamers to be role-players, that's unrealistic. It's surprising what a burden coming up with a name seems to be for some though. A huge chunk of Dust names read more like a skeezy handle from a chat forum than an actual name of a person.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2014.04.28 08:30:00 -
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Jimmy crack corn and I don't care
Saying what's on people's minds
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5239
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:08:00 -
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PSN terms of use say that such language and content being sent over PSN is a violation. CCP's terms of use for DUST support that.
If you have a problem with someone violating those terms, report them. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
508
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:21:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily.
Being able to control your juvenile impulses and act like a civilised member of society is also part of life. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1299
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:23:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily.
Being able to control your juvenile impulses and act like a civilised member of society is also part of life.
Agreed, very few people seem to be able to do so though. Everyday I hear countless people using the F word every three or four words.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
748
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:29:00 -
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Policing language is a big waste of time.
We can pickle that.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1354
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:31:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily.
Being able to control your juvenile impulses and act like a civilised member of society is also part of life.
that is debatable. Society is an ever changing construct. Life goes on absent from society. There are uncivilized societies also. Not even 500 years ago the native Americans lived in a state of true anarchy. It wasn't the bullshit you see on tv. It was pure freedom. No one was ruled or regulated. I could see juvenile impulses being a problem if juveniles are improperly raised. That is a deficit attributed to the rigor of our day to day lives and thus a product of the very society that causes us to curb such unnatural behavior.
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Gaelon Thrace
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
198
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:34:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:A huge chunk of Dust names read more like a skeezy handle from a chat forum than an actual name of a person. Sorry. I wish I had gone with a different spelling. It's just Galen. Not Gay-lawn. |
VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
166
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:41:00 -
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maaaaaaaaaaaybe stop being a RE turd ppl will like you ? re thrown distance is what sets ppl off . its really not your falt . ccp continuely lets op stuff in . ccp hiitn the balance right is far and few between . i know ill get trolled for this |
Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
361
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:59:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:I recall some games (like Everquest) had a name filter that would block all sorts of things, but had a further system for people to petition in game if they saw names that got through the automated filter. It wasn't just obscene names, but names that referenced works of fiction outside of the game, and so on. It's possible they're lazy about it now. I can only imagine how many petitions were about names early on. The naming policy from Project 1999 gives you the idea: Quote:Vile, profane, rude, or racist names including common swear words, anatomical references, racial slurs, and homonyms of these words. Combinations of words that produce an offensive result (e.g. Hugeazz, Tug Mcgroin). Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin). Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony). Names from popular media. These names can be either fictional (e.g. Rambo, Darthvader) or non-fictional (e.g. Garth Brooks, Pierce Brosnan, George Washington, Michael Jordan). Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis). Proper names from EverQuest (e.g. Rathe, Karana). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Karn). The names of senior Customer Support Representatives or developers of Project 1999 (e.g. Nilbog, Rogean, Uthgaard). Names chosen with the intent or possessed with the effect of harming the reputation of a player or Customer Service Representative. Forenames containing titles within them, such as, but not limited to: The, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father (e.g. Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister). Names that contain sentences (Ikillorcs), phrases (Ontop), or two or more words that do not form descriptive compound words (Petcarbob, Diediedie and Tablechair). Descriptive compound words are allowed in first names and are encouraged in surnames (e.g. Treehugger, Giantslayer). Descriptive compound words (each separate part of the word and the entire word) must otherwise adhere to all other naming rules. Fantasy-oriented names which are easily recognized from popular existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Drizzt). Names where the combination of the first and last name forms a phrase or violate a previous rule (e.g. Crymea River, Bran Muffin, Story Thyme). For all of the above, misspellings and alternative spellings (such as spelling it backwards) of the word or words are also unacceptable. For all of the above, any foreign variations are also unacceptable. If a player petitions a name he or she feels is offensive in a foreign language, all rules set forth shall be applied. It would be interesting to see them actually enforce something like that in Dust. I think 80-90% of people would be stuck changing their names. hohohohh u play Project 1999 me too |
NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:02:00 -
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Volf Belfang wrote:Hi, Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women. Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect. Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about. I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours Bad words bother you, really? Dont be a b I t c h. |
NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:07:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily.
Being able to control your juvenile impulses and act like a civilised member of society is also part of life. Agreed, very few people seem to be able to do so though. Everyday I hear countless people using the F word every three or four words. I think the very idea that a word is bad is ******* stupid. Words are just words, intent makes them good or bad and even then only to that single intended target. The idea that one word is a curse word over another is backwards,, and who gives a **** anyway. |
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
947
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:31:00 -
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Volf Belfang wrote:Hi, Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women. Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect. Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about. I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours
Honestly I think it is an example of lack of manpower that CCP has that you see so many names and actions such a s this. All you have to do is petition though, it must work. From time to time I do see Dust Corporation 21309823 or whatever, that is definitely a reset name.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
667
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:40:00 -
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I love how quickly losers rush to the aid of their precious freedoms of speech. The english language is large enough so that if someone doesn't like a handful of words, you can easily use a different one. Pick up a book and expand your vocabulary.
Or keep trying to down play the OP's concerns with cries of HTFU, whiteknight and so forth like the petulant little man children you are. |
Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
667
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:46:00 -
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:Bad words bother you, really? Dont be a b I t c h. Do you subscribe to Randian bullshit as well? lmbo |
mordiby
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
95
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:48:00 -
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I feel as if there should be a system to REPORT a message if it is offensive to you, or others, along with corps.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
668
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:50:00 -
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mordiby wrote:I feel as if there should be a system to REPORT a message if it is offensive to you, or others, along with corps. there is. dust514.com has a ticket system that you can log into with your psn. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
550
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:28:00 -
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I don't really like censorship.
Because, that's why.
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2254
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:35:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:You shouldn't generalize and think the "c" word is offensive to women, that statement itself is sexist.
In my opinion of your event in game, as long as they are not threatening you, then there shouldn't be a problem.
Using adult words is part of life and people who can't take adult words being used in everyday situations no matter how mature or not it is to do so, need to put their big person pants on and not be offended so easily. I've never met a woman who wasn't offended by that word.. But since you say it's not offensive I guess there's no problem with me using it.. I personally like it
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
668
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:28:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I don't really like censorship. There's a very distinct difference between censorship and asking people not to use words that demean. Censorship is sweeping a controversial issue under the rug or a side of that issue.
For instance, you trying to use the word censorship to cover up the issue of people saying terrible and unfunny **** on the internet is actually censorship. hth |
Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES Proficiency V.
174
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:31:00 -
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I've not met a single woman who has found cunt to be offensive. I guess I just live in an area where nobody cares about words.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
668
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:45:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:I've not met a single woman who has found cunt to be offensive. I guess I just live in an area where nobody cares about words. please take a long nap under a UHF radio tower tia. |
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
383
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:48:00 -
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Volf Belfang wrote:Hi, Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women. Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect. Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about. I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours
If you think New Eden isn't about doing what you want and offending people, then you are sadly mistaken.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
252
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:57:00 -
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Vuhjoyneh.
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
834
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:00:00 -
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Volf Belfang wrote:Hi, Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women. Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect. Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about. I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours
So, I am guessing that you are still upset about all those wedgies you received and all those times you were stuffed in a locker.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
786
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:21:00 -
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Problem with censoring names is things that are offensive to some people may not be offensive to others. From what i've understood, Willy is a pretty bad word in parts of the world, here in America it could be an actual name, or something you get when you are scared (that noise gave me the willys). Same with shmuck. Even if your name is HaireebalsInYourMouth, if you are just playing the game and not trolling people why would someone report that person (probably because they were butthurt). If you make an offensive name to endlessly troll people, or even if you have a normal name and you endlessly troll people, then something should be done.
Your name could be Frying Pan Salesman, and my mother could have been brutally murdered by a frying pan salesman, and now your name offends me. It is an endless circle that could wind up with any name getting banned for being offensive. It is all in the eye of the bee holder. Best advice is to just move along if you see an offensive name (racism is different). You may also never wabt to watch tv again if a random name sets you off. Avoid the radio also. And the internet. You should probably stay in your house also.
Just wondering, anyone offended by my name? Been my PSN handle/Gamertag for years, and was given to me by a friend. I almost never think about what it actually says anymore, it's just become my name.
Nobody fcks monkeys AND people you idiot.You either fck monkeys, or you fck people.Theres no in between.
Dave Chappelle
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Aria Gomes
R 0 N 1 N
428
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:05:00 -
[35] - Quote
Cun7s is not really towards women. I call men that when I'm driving and they do something ass backwards at the wheel. New England home of crap drivers and rudeness as a whole.
I'll play the blues for you. -- Albert King
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SPACE SYPHILIS
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
171
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:13:00 -
[36] - Quote
My alts name says it all |
Will Driver
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:24:00 -
[37] - Quote
Personally I don't like the bad language in chat or in messages. Sometimes I admit the double entendre names can be amusing, but would prefer more kid-friendly rules.
What bothers me the most is the constant swearing over mics when squadded up. I can take a little here and there, when it really matters, but a constant stream of swearing gets tiresome very fast.
GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥
GÇò Albert Einstein
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Gotmy Tightpantson
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:28:00 -
[38] - Quote
A rose by any other name is still a rose.
Are you drinking my saki kimosabe?!
http://youtu.be/Nv7Ts4v5_Bs
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Gotmy Tightpantson
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:30:00 -
[39] - Quote
Krixus Flux wrote:Jimmy crack corn and I don't care Take that you stupid corn! -Bender Bending Rodriguez
Are you drinking my saki kimosabe?!
http://youtu.be/Nv7Ts4v5_Bs
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1696
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:45:00 -
[40] - Quote
Will Driver wrote:Personally I don't like the bad language in chat or in messages. Sometimes I admit the double entendre names can be amusing, but would prefer more kid-friendly rules.
What bothers me the most is the constant swearing over mics when squadded up. I can take a little here and there, when it really matters, but a constant stream of swearing gets tiresome very fast. When certain BS levels rise I have taken to muting my mic. It sucks because some warnings didn't get out in time but I feel better not making the other squad members feel the hostility.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2741
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:56:00 -
[41] - Quote
Will Driver wrote:Personally I don't like the bad language in chat or in messages. Sometimes I admit the double entendre names can be amusing, but would prefer more kid-friendly rules.
What bothers me the most is the constant swearing over mics when squadded up. I can take a little here and there, when it really matters, but a constant stream of swearing gets tiresome very fast.
Lol, don't join my corp. Dust would be an alien experience without hearing my CEO say "what a bunch of BULLSH!T!" every 5 minutes. It's like the soundtrack of the game to me!
There should be a little more policing of it, for sure, but the example rules someone posted are insanely restrictive, that would be no fun at all!
IMO, if you have a real problem, put in a ticket, it may very well get changed. Judge's advice is pretty genius, too.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
551
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:56:00 -
[42] - Quote
Sigberct Amni wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:I don't really like censorship. There's a very distinct difference between censorship and asking people not to use words that demean. Censorship is sweeping a controversial issue or a side of that issue under the rug. For instance, you trying to use the word censorship to cover up the issue of people saying terrible and unfunny **** on the internet is actually censorship. hth
I am afraid I can't follow your line of thinking. Censorship is censorship, the explicit banning of certain words, or expression of ideas. I agree that asking people to not use these words is not censoring, but making rules prohibiting it is. We can argue what then ignoring enforcement of those rules constitutes.
As far as my stating I don't like censorship, that in no way is censoring someone. Saying I don't like something, even if I use strongly worded or persuasive language is not censorship. What is required is the ability to force my like or dislikes by prohibiting it.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
551
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:00:00 -
[43] - Quote
Sigberct Amni wrote:I love how quickly losers rush to the aid of their precious freedoms of speech. The english language is large enough so that if someone doesn't like a handful of words, you can easily use a different one. Pick up a book and expand your vocabulary.
Or keep trying to down play the OP's concerns with cries of HTFU, whiteknight and so forth like the petulant little man children you are.
We have no rights in Dust. It belongs to CCP and they can make any rule they like regarding it.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
551
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
John Demonsbane wrote:Will Driver wrote:Personally I don't like the bad language in chat or in messages. Sometimes I admit the double entendre names can be amusing, but would prefer more kid-friendly rules.
What bothers me the most is the constant swearing over mics when squadded up. I can take a little here and there, when it really matters, but a constant stream of swearing gets tiresome very fast. Lol, don't join my corp. Dust would be an alien experience without hearing my CEO say "what a bunch of BULLSH!T!" every 5 minutes. It's like the soundtrack of the game to me! There should be a little more policing of it, for sure, but the example rules someone posted are insanely restrictive, that would be no fun at all! IMO, if you have a real problem, put in a ticket, it may very well get changed. Judge's advice is pretty genius, too.
Cursing bad, extortion good?
Because, that's why.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2741
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:08:00 -
[45] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Will Driver wrote:Personally I don't like the bad language in chat or in messages. Sometimes I admit the double entendre names can be amusing, but would prefer more kid-friendly rules.
What bothers me the most is the constant swearing over mics when squadded up. I can take a little here and there, when it really matters, but a constant stream of swearing gets tiresome very fast. Lol, don't join my corp. Dust would be an alien experience without hearing my CEO say "what a bunch of BULLSH!T!" every 5 minutes. It's like the soundtrack of the game to me! There should be a little more policing of it, for sure, but the example rules someone posted are insanely restrictive, that would be no fun at all! IMO, if you have a real problem, put in a ticket, it may very well get changed. Judge's advice is pretty genius, too. Cursing bad, extortion good?
It's all good, baby. Besides, extortion is a valid tactic in New Eden (provided it is all in-game and not RL, of course).
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
657
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:17:00 -
[46] - Quote
Getting rage mail is Dust 514's greatest honor. You should be proud
Preeminent Scrambler Slayer And Python Pilot
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MINA Longstrike
573
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:25:00 -
[47] - Quote
Naming your corp 'The Cun7s' is like naming your corp 'the fagg0ts'. It's offensive, demeaning and discriminatory, no one needs to be subject to seeing it, ever.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives
146
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Posted - 2014.04.28 22:50:00 -
[48] - Quote
Online interactions not rated by the ESRB |
Aleph Rynedee
Science For Death
84
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:22:00 -
[49] - Quote
Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:My advice OP is do what I do. Note their names. Wait until they have enough WP to get to about 15 million SP (means they are committed and attached to their character). Send them that link and remind them that their name will be changed to player000034 if CCP do act on a complaint about their name. Point out that you are low on ISK and ask if they are feeling generous enough to gift you some as a thank you for pointing out their name might be at risk of being changed.
I wasn't aware CCP had the Cheka up and running, that's good to know. Also, nice touch on the blackmail, very New Eden and very fitting considering.
It's comforting to know moral stalwarts such as yourself are active on Dust 514 to protect the teeming masses from individuality and freedom of thought. |
Fuht Bucker
Butcher's Nails
1
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
This is my enemy tank stealing alt created soley to give payback to NS. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5240
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:59:00 -
[51] - Quote
JP Acuna wrote:Online interactions not rated by the ESRB Nobody's saying to report them to the ESRB.
No matter how involved they are (or aren't), there are still terms of use for online interactions through Sony's network and CCP's game client. Both companies have policies which players agree to before they can access the DUST client. If you don't follow those guidelines, that's a perfectly valid reason for you to be reported to Sony and/or CCP for the violation. ESRB is irrelevant, but agreed-upon terms of use are a part of your online experience. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4030
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:34:00 -
[52] - Quote
People need to grow a pair.
No.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
675
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:18:00 -
[53] - Quote
Chunky Munkey wrote:People need to grow a pair. stick yours in a microwave at 100% power, please |
Alena Ventrallis
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
1236
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:22:00 -
[54] - Quote
**** talking is a part of the culture. As long as you are not being threatened, take it as a compliment that you bested them at fighting tactically and move on.
That's what you get!! - DA Rick
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keno trader
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
Who needs mean words when you can has funnies with baddest grammar.
---$--- I is now scout, invisible hunter by day and christmas tree by night. ---$---
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:04:00 -
[56] - Quote
Volf Belfang wrote:Hi, Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women. Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect. Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about. I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours
Again,.... Volf I am sorry to read that you received heckles and trash talk from, let's face it, just a player who LOST a match and can't swallow losing. Some players like that put down their controllers, walk over to their kitchen and kick their 10-year old child, or grab their girlfriend by the hair and smack her around the room, as a vent for having lost your Domination match.
These are "Adult" things in our world too... But the fact that they happen, or that some losing players will choose to send you hate-mail with "adult" words.... does not make them something we should accept. The fact that we will always (will always?) have people believing these "adult" actions are not so bad things to say and do, is the ENABLER that helps produce more victims. Volf, I think you can see this in the VARIETY of response your thread got. I personally wish such "adults" could be culled out of our culture and our streets, and our recreational activies (but I know there's a weird sort of danger in my solution too...)
You have the power to REDUCE this kind of bahavior in the game. If they don't follow the rules CCP set for this house called Dust 514, report the person who sent you the mail. We MUST use the tool for reporting players, or relinquish some of our right to complain about them. |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
45
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:09:00 -
[57] - Quote
Volf Belfang wrote:Hi, Having single-handedly (and successfully) defended a supply depot and CRU for a domination round using little more than a cloak, cunning and few well placed REs I was subsequently mailed a message about my tactics that containing language offensive to me and, given the words chosen, to women. Related to this I have seen nicks and corp names that are clearly derived from obscenities, a favourite of mine is a corp called, "the c*n7s," or something to that effect. Other online games I have played make every effort to stamp out such language and, for me, the only reason anyone would use such things is with the intention of causing offense. This is not what I think DUST and EVE are about. I was wondering what others in the community think about this ... the floor is yours
I completely agree. I am incredibly tired of this crap in game. Someone needs to bear their ban-hammer over the Dust 514 community. |
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