DUST Search - Hardened Incubus vs Heavy Plated Incubus (why use hardeners?)

Aero Yassavi wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

I'd like to clarify that that is old footage, and it has been my build to run Heavy Plate, Heavy Rep, Afterburner ever since the hardener nerf. I will go back and read the thread now, and thanks for showcasing that vid :p

There is no reason to ever fit a hardener now

Is it even possible to run heavy plate and heavy rep?
You mean Comlex 120mm Armor Plate and Complex Light Armor Rep like the fit I have?

Nope, I run Advanced Heavy Plate, Advanced Heavy Rep, Advanced Afterburner, XT 1 Missile Launcher. You can fit the Complex Afterburner with a Proto Rail. You may be able to squeeze in a complex AB on the XT as well if you max out the fitting skill, but I haven't calculated it, and I don't have any points in that skill

If you could just toss that clarification in your OP somewhere I would appreciate it, since I feel that running hardeners now is for noobs :p

Will do, and I'm going to give this fit a try right now.


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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13151	Posted - 2014.04.27 15:52:00 - [1] - Quote I'd like to clarify that that is old footage, and it has been my build to run Heavy Plate, Heavy Rep, Afterburner ever since the hardener nerf. I will go back and read the thread now, and thanks for showcasing that vid :p There is no reason to ever fit a hardener now My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13151	Posted - 2014.04.27 15:55:00 - [2] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I'd like to clarify that that is old footage, and it has been my build to run Heavy Plate, Heavy Rep, Afterburner ever since the hardener nerf. I will go back and read the thread now, and thanks for showcasing that vid :p There is no reason to ever fit a hardener now Is it even possible to run heavy plate and heavy rep? You mean Comlex 120mm Armor Plate and Complex Light Armor Rep like the fit I have? Nope, I run Advanced Heavy Plate, Advanced Heavy Rep, Advanced Afterburner, XT 1 Missile Launcher. You can fit the Complex Afterburner with a Proto Rail. You may be able to squeeze in a complex AB on the XT as well if you max out the fitting skill, but I haven't calculated it, and I don't have any points in that skill If you could just toss that clarification in your OP somewhere I would appreciate it, since I feel that running hardeners now is for noobs :p My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13152	Posted - 2014.04.27 16:06:00 - [3] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I'd like to clarify that that is old footage, and it has been my build to run Heavy Plate, Heavy Rep, Afterburner ever since the hardener nerf. I will go back and read the thread now, and thanks for showcasing that vid :p There is no reason to ever fit a hardener now Is it even possible to run heavy plate and heavy rep? You mean Comlex 120mm Armor Plate and Complex Light Armor Rep like the fit I have? Nope, I run Advanced Heavy Plate, Advanced Heavy Rep, Advanced Afterburner, XT 1 Missile Launcher. You can fit the Complex Afterburner with a Proto Rail. You may be able to squeeze in a complex AB on the XT as well if you max out the fitting skill, but I haven't calculated it, and I don't have any points in that skill If you could just toss that clarification in your OP somewhere I would appreciate it, since I feel that running hardeners now is for noobs :p Will do, and I'm going to give this fit a try right now. I've been enjoying it, the biggest weakness is damage stacked railguns now, you rely HEAVILY on the afterburner to save you from those or double forge / rail - forge three hit combo. Dodging the third shot is crucial. My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13152	Posted - 2014.04.27 16:16:00 - [4] - Quote Yea, it's the Proto Breach you need to watch out for. The be entirely honest, that weapon alone is the reason I made that fit, just so you can survive that damn shot even if you're slightly wounded. It can come out of nowhere sometimes and damn does it hurt I need to calculate if I could technically fit the complex AB if I maxed the fitting skill for the XT just because that would be sex My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13153	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:14:00 - [5] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >Reading this thread >See no mention of people running passive reps My vehicle armor reps aren't maxed, but I'm running ~250 HP/s rep. This feels much more survivable than an armor hardened/plated Incubus. It is especially effective against swarms (unless multiple people) and in a dropship battle, you essentially out-rep the enemy because no pilot will ever hit all 8 missiles (or ~14 railgun shots in a burst) on another decent pilot. At max armor rep, a Complex Heavy Armor Repair and a Complex Light Armor Repair will net you 275 HP/s. You can still fit an XT-1 and an afterburner, just need to put in a PG module. I tried passive rep tanking, and just like with HAV's it is terrible against alpha damage, which is what the majority of your threats are in a dropship. Swarms are never really an issue, just minor nuisances. Perhaps it works for you, but I absolutely hate passive rep tanking a dropship. This x 1 million. I switched to my fit because of Proto breach forge guns and damage stacked rails, both of which will make your day very unpleasant in a passive Rep Incubus My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud