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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2014.04.27 09:49:00 -
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The hardener fit will have more EHP when taking damage.
Whenever you lose armor, the hardener fit will be repping back more EHP/s than the plated fit (as long as the hardener is active). I'm sure you can argue pros and cons for both fits, but I think they both have their place at the moment.
With that said, I still think the hardener nerf was wrong as I don't believe they were too effective before the nerf. The problem was cycling more than one hardener, which should have been solved by making fits with more than one hardener invalid.
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:18:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Example
Yeah, that's just one example with a Breach FG dealing high alpha damage. Against less damage over more time I think the hardener fit will be better.
I believe both fits have their place. In your example the plated fit would fare best, in other cases the hardener fit might be the best.
But as I also said, the hardener nerf was wrong. With the old numbers the hardener fit would be even better, so CCP did break the hardener fit somewhat, but that's to be expected at this point.
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:32:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Alpha damage is the only thing that is going to take down an ADS though, if you try to kill it with small but sustained fire it's just going to fly away and recoup. Plus the main AV threats to the ADS is either a forge or large rail gun, both of which don't necessarily give you fair warning they are going to hit so a lot of the times an armor hardened Incubus will have the hardener up for the first hit, unless he was smart enough to activate it early as a precaution. Even then the heavy armor plated Incubus doesn't have to wait for some cool down before it can safely return to the fray.
I think that's exactly my point. The hardener fit will be able to stay in the fray for longer when being targeted by sustained damage due to repping more EHP back each second, but will then have to stay in safezone while the hardener is recharging while the plated fit can engage at all times, but have to be cautious against sustained damage.
It's about preference/what is needed for the specific situation I would say.
Quote:I believe armor hardened Incubi could have a place, but definitely not with just 25% resistance compared to these heavy plated fits.
Sure, the hardener fit might be a little worse than other fits overall due to the unneeded nerf to hardeners, but it still have it's places (in my opinion). I still agree with you that 25% resistance is too little though.
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