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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:33:00 -
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I strikes me that you have never either met an Amarrian outside of the combat zone, or that you are simply ignorant of our ways.....regardless of the situation I suppose it is my duty to offer to put to rest these misconstrued notions of the previous era's Reclamation.
Now I suppose to understand the premise of the Reclamation you need to truly understand that the Amarr have been chosen, and are gifted with an Immortal Destiny to unite all of mankind under a single Imperial Creed as men are supposed to be. In order to ensure this is done all peoples must heed the word of God and submit to His rule.
As the people chosen to carry out this Immortal Destiny it is our duty to ensure that the Light of the Faith is spread to all of the corners of the stars so that when the time comes all Faithful may declare themselves True to the Amarr.
Still my friend I cannot perhaps feel you are bitter about events that happened almost 300 years ago. The Amarr are not what they once were, as we follow God's path we develop, we change and we discover more of ourselves and better interpret the Word of God.
Any who were formerly of Matari stock residing within the Empire are now no longer your people, they are ours, they will be Amarr, and they will be the Chosen Children of God.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9771
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Posted - 2014.04.27 05:11:00 -
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Satja Askarin wrote:Axxol Mino wrote:Satja Askarin wrote:Axxol Mino wrote:True Adamance wrote:I strikes me that you have never either met an Amarrian outside of the combat zone, or that you are simply ignorant of our ways.....regardless of the situation I suppose it is my duty to offer to put to rest these misconstrued notions of the previous era's Reclamation.
Now I suppose to understand the premise of the Reclamation you need to truly understand that the Amarr have been chosen, and are gifted with an Immortal Destiny to unite all of mankind under a single Imperial Creed as men are supposed to be. In order to ensure this is done all peoples must heed the word of God and submit to His rule.
As the people chosen to carry out this Immortal Destiny it is our duty to ensure that the Light of the Faith is spread to all of the corners of the stars so that when the time comes all Faithful may declare themselves True to the Amarr.
Still my friend I cannot perhaps feel you are bitter about events that happened almost 300 years ago. The Amarr are not what they once were, as we follow God's path we develop, we change and we discover more of ourselves and better interpret the Word of God.
Any who were formerly of Matari stock residing within the Empire are now no longer your people, they are ours, they will be Amarr, and they will be the Chosen Children of God.
Your kind nearly eradicated my entire tribe, qnd turned my homeland into nothing more than a barren wasteland. Those that remained you proceeded to enslave, that is unforgivable. Your "god" commands you to enslave innocent people, my friends, my family, just because they have a different viewpoint than your empire. That is unforgivable. Your "Immortal Destiny" calls for you to force people into your ways against their will or face being terminated, but yet you call your kind righteous. That my adversary, is unforgivable. The Starkmanir will never be your people, regardless of what you believe. We will always be of Matari, always. That is folly. You do not know the Amarr as those who are slaves do, as I do. They are a magnificent people, truly they are, and while not always the easies to understand.... they represent something I had never known before. Hope. A hope that one day all men might truly know one another, that we might stand united before the Dark of the universe, and that we might take our rightful place as rulers of everything beneath the Heavens. I urge you to try to understand, I once hated them too, hated them because I did not known them, because I was told to hate them, told by my family and teachers. But when I saw them as a people, compelled by duty, possessed of a purpose and dignity that was initially beyond my understanding.....I could not help but feel I too was a part of this purpose. So it is and shall always be. God be with you cousin, may you make the right choice. But I ask you this, if you left your kind because of an ideology that was forced on you that you believe is false, why do you in turn do the same to others? You are disregarding the beliefs of your opposition in order to smother them with a belief that they often do not share with you. How is this just? This is the same thing that you just told me led to you leaving the Matari, so why do you thrust the same fate upon your former brothers? I never left of my own volition...... you might call it providence....and what are the short sighted and ignorant whims of men before that of God. The Amarr do what must be done, they do not like it, but they do their duty as they see fit. There has not been a Reclaiming for many hundreds of years.....the Starkmanir, the Brutor, the Siebestor, and my kins the Vherokior who live in the Empire are Amarr now. Many of us wish to be Amarr, and we would return home to spread the word of God and the teachings of the Amarr to our people......who are you to stop us if you preach of personal beliefs and values?
Calm yourself little one..... you speak true and wise words beyond your years.
Leave the Starkmanir to find their way to God as they one day surely will, our concerns lie with protecting what we have inclusive of all soverign space belonging to the Amarr Empire, the Khanid Kingdom, and the Ammatar Mandate.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9771
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Posted - 2014.04.27 05:50:00 -
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Axxol Mino wrote:
Who are you to preach your beliefs to those that do not wish to hear it?
We are the Amarr.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9903
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:07:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:After hearing everything you all said, I have come to one conclusion.
New Eden would be better off without religion. What has religion caused so far? Wars, slavery, bitter division between empires, countless lives lost (before the cloning process began) and all for what? A God that may or may not exist.
I respect your choice in religion and beliefs, I just think the rest of New Eden would benefit greatly by now having it forced down every orifice you deem fit.
As for the Starkmanir Rebelling, I thought the Sisters of Eve liberated all your kind from Halturzhan and currently living in the Republic. So if thats true, are you rebelling against the Matari? Your own brothers? I only ask as a 'Rebellion' suggests fighting against those who rule or seek to rule you.
And as I recall, most Starkmanir cannot recall their own heritage. Which is sad and the blame falls on the Amarr for that.
If anything it is a blessing for the Starkmanir, they now stand closer to God than any remaining Matari tribe, poise on the brink of transcendence..... a gift we chose to give them. Within the Empire we educate slaves in the manner of our people, and why should be do anything else.
Education is a gift, to teach them how the Amarr live is another. It breeds perspective. I long await the day those Matari of pure heart and mind, learned of our ways, return to the Empire to live as true sons and daughters of God.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.04.30 04:36:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:After hearing everything you all said, I have come to one conclusion.
New Eden would be better off without religion. What has religion caused so far? Wars, slavery, bitter division between empires, countless lives lost (before the cloning process began) and all for what? A God that may or may not exist.
I respect your choice in religion and beliefs, I just think the rest of New Eden would benefit greatly by now having it forced down every orifice you deem fit.
As for the Starkmanir Rebelling, I thought the Sisters of Eve liberated all your kind from Halturzhan and currently living in the Republic. So if thats true, are you rebelling against the Matari? Your own brothers? I only ask as a 'Rebellion' suggests fighting against those who rule or seek to rule you.
And as I recall, most Starkmanir cannot recall their own heritage. Which is sad and the blame falls on the Amarr for that. If anything it is a blessing for the Starkmanir, they now stand closer to God than any remaining Matari tribe, poise on the brink of transcendence..... a gift we chose to give them. Within the Empire we educate slaves in the manner of our people, and why should be do anything else. Education is a gift, to teach them how the Amarr live is another. It breeds perspective. I long await the day those Matari of pure heart and mind, learned of our ways, return to the Empire to live as true sons and daughters of God. Like I have said to you before, we have differing views of slavery and education. However, to correct you, as I corrected the Matari trying to start an unnecessary uprising, the Starkmanir currently reside in the Minmatar Republic as the Sisters of EVE liberated them as well as some members of the Nefantar tribe. So even if I was to agree their enslavement was a blessing (which I don't), it no longer is as they are no longer under the control of the Amarr Empire.
For now.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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