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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:38:00 -
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After hearing everything you all said, I have come to one conclusion.
New Eden would be better off without religion. What has religion caused so far? Wars, slavery, bitter division between empires, countless lives lost (before the cloning process began) and all for what? A God that may or may not exist.
I respect your choice in religion and beliefs, I just think the rest of New Eden would benefit greatly by now having it forced down every orifice you deem fit.
As for the Starkmanir Rebelling, I thought the Sisters of Eve liberated all your kind from Halturzhan and currently living in the Republic. So if thats true, are you rebelling against the Matari? Your own brothers? I only ask as a 'Rebellion' suggests fighting against those who rule or seek to rule you.
And as I recall, most Starkmanir cannot recall their own heritage. Which is sad and the blame falls on the Amarr for that.
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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:23:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:After hearing everything you all said, I have come to one conclusion.
New Eden would be better off without religion. What has religion caused so far? Wars, slavery, bitter division between empires, countless lives lost (before the cloning process began) and all for what? A God that may or may not exist.
I respect your choice in religion and beliefs, I just think the rest of New Eden would benefit greatly by now having it forced down every orifice you deem fit.
As for the Starkmanir Rebelling, I thought the Sisters of Eve liberated all your kind from Halturzhan and currently living in the Republic. So if thats true, are you rebelling against the Matari? Your own brothers? I only ask as a 'Rebellion' suggests fighting against those who rule or seek to rule you.
And as I recall, most Starkmanir cannot recall their own heritage. Which is sad and the blame falls on the Amarr for that. If anything it is a blessing for the Starkmanir, they now stand closer to God than any remaining Matari tribe, poise on the brink of transcendence..... a gift we chose to give them. Within the Empire we educate slaves in the manner of our people, and why should be do anything else. Education is a gift, to teach them how the Amarr live is another. It breeds perspective. I long await the day those Matari of pure heart and mind, learned of our ways, return to the Empire to live as true sons and daughters of God.
Like I have said to you before, we have differing views of slavery and education.
However, to correct you, as I corrected the Matari trying to start an unnecessary uprising, the Starkmanir currently reside in the Minmatar Republic as the Sisters of EVE liberated them as well as some members of the Nefantar tribe. So even if I was to agree their enslavement was a blessing (which I don't), it no longer is as they are no longer under the control of the Amarr Empire.
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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:After hearing everything you all said, I have come to one conclusion.
New Eden would be better off without religion. What has religion caused so far? Wars, slavery, bitter division between empires, countless lives lost (before the cloning process began) and all for what? A God that may or may not exist.
I respect your choice in religion and beliefs, I just think the rest of New Eden would benefit greatly by now having it forced down every orifice you deem fit.
As for the Starkmanir Rebelling, I thought the Sisters of Eve liberated all your kind from Halturzhan and currently living in the Republic. So if thats true, are you rebelling against the Matari? Your own brothers? I only ask as a 'Rebellion' suggests fighting against those who rule or seek to rule you.
And as I recall, most Starkmanir cannot recall their own heritage. Which is sad and the blame falls on the Amarr for that. If anything it is a blessing for the Starkmanir, they now stand closer to God than any remaining Matari tribe, poise on the brink of transcendence..... a gift we chose to give them. Within the Empire we educate slaves in the manner of our people, and why should be do anything else. Education is a gift, to teach them how the Amarr live is another. It breeds perspective. I long await the day those Matari of pure heart and mind, learned of our ways, return to the Empire to live as true sons and daughters of God. Like I have said to you before, we have differing views of slavery and education. However, to correct you, as I corrected the Matari trying to start an unnecessary uprising, the Starkmanir currently reside in the Minmatar Republic as the Sisters of EVE liberated them as well as some members of the Nefantar tribe. So even if I was to agree their enslavement was a blessing (which I don't), it no longer is as they are no longer under the control of the Amarr Empire. For now.
Your devotion to your cause is why I respect you Adamance.
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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2014.05.08 08:39:00 -
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Axxol Mino wrote:
That is incorrect. The Starkmanir were not among those liberated.
((I'm sorry but I need to go OOC. Have you not read up on the lore of Starkmanir? They HAVE been liberated. ALL OF THEM. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Starkmanir Proof there.))
I'm not sure if you are a true Starkmanir then, for I am very certain they are currently residing in the republic.
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