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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

Delta90212 wrote:

What if we gave the plasma rifle the same ROF as the balac?

it really only needs to be raised to 800 with a small increase to balac to fall in line. as it stands AR's are outgunned by pretty much everything these days, both at range and up close. CCP really need to look at all the weapons and completely rebalance their functions.

its supposed to be shortest range, highest damage but at the moment thats simply not the case the plasma rifle string of rifles is pretty much how things are supposed to be set. its only family with all types laid out the TAC is the single shot long range precision same as ScR, Breach is supposed to be Gallente Rail Rifle, Burt is supposed to be mid range precision.

soem of the changes i'd make are..

Standard RR's and ScR - Change hip fire to that of TAC rifle to reduce close range use.
Assault rifle - RoF to 800
Breach - RoF to 450 damage to 50/52.25/54.50 (STD/ADV/PR) its supposed to be highest damage shortest range CQC weapon. RR is 47 damage (STD) and 461 rof so these are not that high in comparison to range also increase accuracy to 58.92 base. RR is 58.28 and this is a close range weapon afterall.
Burst - RoF to 1000, accuracy to 57
TAC - RoF to 500 (ScR is over 700) accuracy to 53. the increased kick brought in to prevent rapid fire mods will still be in effect. this just makes single shot actually worthwhile)

as for the assault varients of the other racial rifles they should all have ranges brought in and dps adjusted accordingly to the short range/high damage line with shortest ranges also having tigher hip fires. the current dps on every other assault vairent simply outclasses plasma at every turn.

Also change to proficiency skills too. 3% per level to the primary damage and 1% per level to secodnary damage so example lasers get 3% damage to shields 1% to armor, RR;s get 3% Armor 1% shields ect. just so they help get a bit of overal damage benefit fromt he skill

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Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7239	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:12:00 - [1] - Quote Who thinks Plasma Rifles need a buff. (Well, other than the esteemed Gallente Loyalists of course). HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Ansiiis The Trustworthy duna corp 1094	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:14:00 - [2] - Quote You're never the only one. Looks into the distance... Footage from the Caldari socket
John Lengrios Horizons' Edge 9	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:16:00 - [3] - Quote I would love a ROF buff as some people have suggested, maybe 800 to 850 RPM (just throwin' out some numbers). Two scouts proto'ed, two more to go! ((^-^)/)
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES 133	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:21:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Who thinks Plasma Rifles need a buff. (Well, other than the esteemed Gallente Loyalists of course). How about an actual name change while we're at it? It should be renamed to Plasma Rifle. Or Assault Plasma Rifle? Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 601	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:21:00 - [5] - Quote yeah small tweak to rof would sort out most the issues. also with the new gallente assault bonus its almost crying out for the breach assault so actually makign that useful would be awesome. atm it gets outgunned by sharp sticks and sand in the eyes Rolling with the punches
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12726	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:26:00 - [6] - Quote I cry a little inside when I look at that table of blanket nerfs from 1.8 and see the breach assault rifle nerfed as hard as the main assault rifle. Zero thought went into that set of changes whatsoever. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 935	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:40:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I cry a little inside when I look at that table of blanket nerfs from 1.8 and see the breach assault rifle nerfed as hard as the main assault rifle. Zero thought went into that set of changes whatsoever. Isn't this indicative of most of the balancing changes (whether that be to new realeased things or rebalanced stuff) Honestly CCP needs to hire a developer to be in charge of balancing this game, just one guy/girl. Allow him/her to perform hot-fixes weekly, and let him/her fix this game. If they already have that person, fire his/her ass as they are basically robbing from the company (i.e. you are geting no value for the money you are paying him/her.) Oh and stop listening to the CPM0, they were supposed to speak for us but they only speak for themselves as far as I have seen so far (IWS). Fixing swarms
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 424	Posted - 2014.04.26 09:12:00 - [8] - Quote What if we gave the plasma rifle the same ROF as the balac? Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
D4GG3R Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 193	Posted - 2014.04.26 09:30:00 - [9] - Quote I think the plasma cannon is perfect Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 602	Posted - 2014.04.26 09:36:00 - [10] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: What if we gave the plasma rifle the same ROF as the balac? it really only needs to be raised to 800 with a small increase to balac to fall in line. as it stands AR's are outgunned by pretty much everything these days, both at range and up close. CCP really need to look at all the weapons and completely rebalance their functions. its supposed to be shortest range, highest damage but at the moment thats simply not the case the plasma rifle string of rifles is pretty much how things are supposed to be set. its only family with all types laid out the TAC is the single shot long range precision same as ScR, Breach is supposed to be Gallente Rail Rifle, Burt is supposed to be mid range precision. soem of the changes i'd make are.. Standard RR's and ScR - Change hip fire to that of TAC rifle to reduce close range use. Assault rifle - RoF to 800 Breach - RoF to 450 damage to 50/52.25/54.50 (STD/ADV/PR) its supposed to be highest damage shortest range CQC weapon. RR is 47 damage (STD) and 461 rof so these are not that high in comparison to range also increase accuracy to 58.92 base. RR is 58.28 and this is a close range weapon afterall. Burst - RoF to 1000, accuracy to 57 TAC - RoF to 500 (ScR is over 700) accuracy to 53. the increased kick brought in to prevent rapid fire mods will still be in effect. this just makes single shot actually worthwhile) as for the assault varients of the other racial rifles they should all have ranges brought in and dps adjusted accordingly to the short range/high damage line with shortest ranges also having tigher hip fires. the current dps on every other assault vairent simply outclasses plasma at every turn. Also change to proficiency skills too. 3% per level to the primary damage and 1% per level to secodnary damage so example lasers get 3% damage to shields 1% to armor, RR;s get 3% Armor 1% shields ect. just so they help get a bit of overal damage benefit fromt he skill Rolling with the punches

Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 424	Posted - 2014.04.26 09:58:00 - [11] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Delta90212 wrote: What if we gave the plasma rifle the same ROF as the balac? it really only needs to be raised to 800 with a small increase to balac to fall in line. as it stands AR's are outgunned by pretty much everything these days, both at range and up close. CCP really need to look at all the weapons and completely rebalance their functions. its supposed to be shortest range, highest damage but at the moment thats simply not the case the plasma rifle string of rifles is pretty much how things are supposed to be set. its only family with all types laid out the TAC is the single shot long range precision same as ScR, Breach is supposed to be Gallente Rail Rifle, Burt is supposed to be mid range precision. soem of the changes i'd make are.. Standard RR's and ScR - Change hip fire to that of TAC rifle to reduce close range use. Assault rifle - RoF to 800 Breach - RoF to 450 damage to 50/52.25/54.50 (STD/ADV/PR) its supposed to be highest damage shortest range CQC weapon. RR is 47 damage (STD) and 461 rof so these are not that high in comparison to range also increase accuracy to 58.92 base. RR is 58.28 and this is a close range weapon afterall. Burst - RoF to 1000, accuracy to 57 TAC - RoF to 500 (ScR is over 700) accuracy to 53. the increased kick brought in to prevent rapid fire mods will still be in effect. this just makes single shot actually worthwhile) as for the assault varients of the other racial rifles they should all have ranges brought in and dps adjusted accordingly to the short range/high damage line with shortest ranges also having tigher hip fires. the current dps on every other assault vairent simply outclasses plasma at every turn. Also change to proficiency skills too. 3% per level to the primary damage and 1% per level to secodnary damage so example lasers get 3% damage to shields 1% to armor, RR;s get 3% Armor 1% shields ect. just so they help get a bit of overal damage benefit fromt he skill Gallente weapons are supposed to have shortest range, highest DPS not damage and the rail rifle is a caldari weapon Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
Alena Ventrallis PAND3M0N1UM Top Men. 1216	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:06:00 - [12] - Quote A DPS increase, either through ROF or raw damage. If through ROF, then give it an increased clip size. I want to start seeing Duvolles in the killfeed again. That's what you get!! - DA Rick
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 783	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:07:00 - [13] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: What if we gave the plasma rifle the same ROF as the balac? Uahahhahaahhahahahha Yes, also give the plasma rifle a WIN BUTTON. Minmatar loyalist!
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 424	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:11:00 - [14] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Delta90212 wrote: What if we gave the plasma rifle the same ROF as the balac? Uahahhahaahhahahahha Yes, also give the plasma rifle a WIN BUTTON. Yes a win button of 40m range where its SUPPOSED to dominate. Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
Jason Pearson State Terrestrial Mercenaries 4190	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:12:00 - [15] - Quote Atiim wrote: Who thinks Plasma Rifles need a buff. (Well, other than the esteemed Gallente Loyalists of course). Silly Atiim, we can't buff Plasma Rifles, they'd be OP. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1912	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:20:00 - [16] - Quote The Plasma Rifle only need a very slight buff, otherwise it's going to be too good once again. The Combat Rifle also need a slight nerf. It's a close to mid range weapon, but has a 67/84 optimal/effective range (for Proto) while the long range Rail Rifle only has a 75/102 optimal/effective range (for Proto), which is nearly the same. That's just terrible (the mid to long range Scrambler Rifle has 76/96 optimal/effective range for Proto as well). Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3063	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:41:00 - [17] - Quote I personally would like to see it have a damage increase, but a shorter range. Make it the deadliest rifle, but have it limited by a 40-50 meter range. That's balance. It's why the ACR isn't that OP. Sure it kicks your ass at 20-60 meters, but at least I'm not getting killed by it at 100+ meters in less time than I have to react to what's hitting me (i.e. the 1.7 RR) Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!


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