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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:27:00 -
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Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
988
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:30:00 -
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i use one on all my gal commando fits. As I typically just run basic suits I do quite well with my Exile with in it's range of course. Paired with a RR as much as I hate the RR and you can do some damage at any range.
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:33:00 -
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i enjoy the breach AR since it does decent dmg and you wont miss that much. the other variants arent that good besides breach and the regular automatic but besides that its fairly decent.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:42:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh.
no
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Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:45:00 -
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The assault scram costs more, is more fitting intensive and the muzzle flash is off-putting to say the least. The damage profile can be an issue too, of course.
Essentially, the AR is fine so long as you deny all knowledge of the CR existence.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:45:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh. no
It seriously needs a buff.
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:46:00 -
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If you're messing around in pubs, it's alright.
Competitively, it's crap. Not enough DPS to take down heavies in most scenarios. That and the damage profile doesn't usually favor going against heavies.
It honestly needs an RoF boost given it's range in comparison to its DPS. It's tougher to fit, has less range, and less DPS than the CR. Dont nerf the CR, just make the AR beastly in close range. It should be the ultimate short range brawler rifle.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:58:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:If you're messing around in pubs, it's alright.
Competitively, it's crap. Not enough DPS to take down heavies in most scenarios. That and the damage profile doesn't usually favor going against heavies.
It honestly needs an RoF boost given its range in comparison to its DPS. It's tougher to fit, has less range, and less DPS than the CR. Dont nerf the CR, just make the AR beastly in close range. It should be the ultimate short range brawler rifle.
The CR needs a 50% chance of jamming when in max DPS (but it shouldn't be as long as say the overheat of a HMG, just enough to make him stop firing).
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:58:00 -
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It's alright, but you're better off with another Rifle. A popular one is the CR due to the RoF and damage profile.
It barely gets to compete with the other rifles even if used on a proto Commando. |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:00:00 -
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Ran a Duvolle today. Mostly trying to get rid of some stock, one of the matches I went 23/0.
Not a bad gun, but it's not great.
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nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:02:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh.
as a cal commando yes id say its worth it i get killed by more ar and lazer weaponry then anything its just most people in dust have chosen to go armor based. which works nicely on my end anyway lol |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:07:00 -
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Boring but Practical= Assault Rifle.
I like it, is definitely a jack-of-all-trades type weapon. You want a challenge use the GLU-TAC. The name and features of it make it a 'classic' type
weapon. Still boring, but far from inferior. In my personal experience with it. GEK-38 is my favorite besides the GLU-TAC.
Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:17:00 -
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It's great. It's like a low damage, fully automatic shotgun with a bit more range. Paired with a good sidearm, the only thing it can't do as good as the shotgun is taking on heavies, and that can still be done well if you flank them.
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keno trader
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:22:00 -
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It's terrible.
1.8 --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes.
1.8 --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:22:00 -
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Pubs or PC 
sadly there is a difference
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:23:00 -
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Over the SCR? No I wouldn't say so. I'm not an SCR user myself, so I enjoy hearing the drums roll on my GEK. Still play with it sometimes, especially in Ambush where I play with my starter fits.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:24:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Pubs or PC sadly there is a difference
Pubs and fw
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:56:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh.
Well it's easier to fit for a start.
The AR also seems easier to control than the AScR.
No.
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WILL FIGHT ANYONE
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:59:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh.
The only way I use an ar is with a gal comando with a damage mod.
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dullrust
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:08:00 -
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The AR is not horrible IF you are speced into it. Is it PC or even FW worthy? I would have to say no. Still with decent specing it does pretty well in pubs. Decent being lvl 5 and at least lvl 3 everything but fitting.
Most shield damage weapons are crap for killing. But that's why we have the good old smg now ain't it? oh wait sorry guess that ain't right now either. hmmmm
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:12:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:It's great. It's like a low damage, fully automatic shotgun with a bit more range. Paired with a good sidearm, the only thing it can't do as good as the shotgun is taking on heavies, and that can still be done well if you flank them.
my breach ar.
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:14:00 -
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its all i use, you can drill people in the head really good with it
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.04.26 05:03:00 -
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I ran duv tac ar on my cloaked caldari scout, and it f*cked sh!t up!
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Aria Gomes
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.26 05:09:00 -
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AR no..... Tactical AR? Yes. Yes it's worth it.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 05:17:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The assault scram costs more, is more fitting intensive and the muzzle flash is off-putting to say the least. The damage profile can be an issue too, of course.
Essentially, the AR is fine so long as you deny all knowledge of the CR existence.
ASCR chews up everything for breakfast with it's large magazine and more damage per shot, faster reload and longer range.
It's also not exactly fitting intensive, it costs more PG but less CPU.
It's muzzle flash can be annoying, but it's nothing I can't deal with.
I have also never found the damage profile to be a problem, I have chewed up Gallente Sentinels better than I did with the AR.
Overall, the AR is the weakest link in the group.
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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Posted - 2014.04.26 11:46:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:AR no..... Tactical AR? Yes. Yes it's worth it.
The TAC AR's ROF is too low now, I oversample too much when using it for it to be viable.
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
725
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Posted - 2014.04.26 12:40:00 -
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nelo kazuma wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh. as a cal commando yes id say its worth it i get killed by more ar and lazer weaponry then anything its just most people in dust have chosen to go armor based. which works nicely on my end anyway lol
This - the majority of DUST players don't understand HP and damage-profiles.
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.04.26 12:54:00 -
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I wishd I had the 3 million SP i put into the AR back! The CR outperforms the AR in every aspect. Where is the balance? |
Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2014.04.26 12:55:00 -
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In Pubs - Depends on how good the enemy is.
In PC - Good luck
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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Posted - 2014.04.26 12:55:00 -
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G Torq wrote:nelo kazuma wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Seriously though, is it worth using over the assault scrambler?
I like Gallente weaponry actually, but the AR feels so.....meh. as a cal commando yes id say its worth it i get killed by more ar and lazer weaponry then anything its just most people in dust have chosen to go armor based. which works nicely on my end anyway lol This - the majority of DUST players don't understand HP and damage-profiles.
I understand them quite well, that is why I always attack Min and Cal suits first with a ScR or AR, and leave the Amarr and Gal be. While armor tanking may be the new style of the game, I refuse to use the CR due to it being a Minmatar weapon.
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:53:00 -
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the ar should have its optimal reduced to 30 meters, but give it maybe a few more points of damage and ~200 more fire rate
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2442
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:58:00 -
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Please buff the AR RoF, my gal commando alt needs more DPS!
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Rygharr Sturmeister
DUST University
Ivy League
27
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:02:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:the ar should have its optimal reduced to 30 meters, but give it maybe a few more points of damage and ~200 more fire rate
The AR user would have to get dangerously close when fighting an HMG user with an optimal like that. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4918
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:29:00 -
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Not bad. Not especially good, but not bad.
As compared to the assault scrambler, it definitely has it on cost and fitting requirements.
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
671
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:01:00 -
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If I had over a 1million SP invested in CR I know which rifle I'd use over the shotgun.
Unfortunately, I only have those points in AR. It isn't so bad within its optimal, and it probably still outperforms the shotgun in many respects. Im just lucky I find myself engaging in those sorts of ranges. And have a BPO so...whatever.
I use it as an anti shield SMG pretty much. I like it against cal scouts.
Otherwise - I'm holding off on investing in another rifle, cause by the time I've invested the SP, AR will hopefully have the DPS it should have considering the range.
The ACR ***** all over the AR while smiling.
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:06:00 -
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i use it on my gal logi. i feel like it gives you the most control, consistancy and dmg per clip in its range compared to the other assault variants, and it's optimal range is great for where a logi will be on city maps and for dealing with sg scouts you've caught- something i feel is a problem when repping people and providing support.
as well as that, i felt the damage profile was good for the initial engagement, where switching to armor repper or other equipment might become neccessary later, when the enemy is in armor.
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
16
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:26:00 -
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It needs a buff, but it won't make you go negative. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.04.27 08:58:00 -
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dullrust wrote:EDIT: My point being if your gonna have something called assault rifle. Should it not be king of ALL assault variations? Every assault type does better that the assault rifle.
Exactly. The Gallente AR should out perform every other rifle's "assault" variant. Likewise, Amarr's base rilfe should be better than any other "tactical" rifle, Minmatar should have the best "burst" rifle and Caldari the best "breach" rifle.
But w/e, not much seems to make sense in DUST 514 anyway. I'll just keep playing with the hope that one day all will make sense.... lol, yeah right!
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Trained Skills
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.04.27 09:13:00 -
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The AR is garbage for its fitting cost. The combat rifle has lower fitting cost, better range and allmost identical damage output. In my opinion the AR really needs a rate of fire buff to make it viable.
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
682
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:09:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:
But w/e, not much seems to make sense in DUST 514 anyway. I'll just keep playing with the hope that one day all will make sense.... lol, yeah right!
OT: I could make this my sig - it's my response to pretty much everything Dust related
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:23:00 -
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It needs either a RoF increase or an 5-8% damage increase. its good but not quite there when compared to other guns. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.04.27 11:57:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:It needs either a RoF increase or an 5-8% damage increase. its good but not quite there when compared to other guns.
Damage increase wouldnt do anything good. The thing why the combat rifle is so popular is that its the ultimate spray and pray gun stright after the HMG. Just press the trigger and you see your ammo count dwindling at a very high rate. And for close quarters the usual rule is: the slower a gun fires the worse it is against people who are strafing. And thats why its not competetive. Oh and the low range takes a part in it aswell.
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