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Banjo Robertson
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:57:00 -
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So I used to only use AR, I had some other weapons at level 1, and things like shotgun around level 4. Then the sidearm event started and I got SMG to level 5 proficiency 1 because no gallente smg was out. And boy the assault varient smg was really awesome. So awesome I just got combat rifle to level 5 proficiency 1, and wow!
Assault combat rifle is like the old AR, it kills so fast! I was having an absolute miserable time trying to play the game with my AR, getting owned by people using advanced combat rifle while I was using creodron with one damage mod.
Now that I have my sixkin assault combat rifle, and the bk-46 assault combat rifle before it, the game is much more fun. I'm killing scrubs left and right instead of getting killed by them, and yeah sure I die because there are people who are better at the game than I am, but who cares? I can actually kill people again!
I say, don't nerf the combat rifle! |
Jackal 006
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:11:00 -
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id be happy with the combat rifle not getting a nerf if they got rid of the slowdown/web effect it has. assault rifle needs a buff i nearly feel sorry for gallente role players stuck with it lol |
Obodiah Garro
Tech guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:16:00 -
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CR is OP, needs more pgrid, less range and less base dmg TO BEGIN WITH
The AR wouldnt be bitched about if the CR was basically a tech 2 version of the AR.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:18:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:CR is OP, needs more pgrid, less range and less base dmg TO BEGIN WITH
The AR wouldnt be bitched about if the CR was basically a tech 2 version of the AR.
Its a Minmatar weapon, its supposed to have low PG/CPU Consumption.
Increase its kick, by a lot, say no to random damage and range nerfs.
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Banjo Robertson
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:18:00 -
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I really was agonizing over specializing into another rifle because everything I had skilled into had basically been gallente. With AR proficiency 4 and level 3 in sharpshooter, rapid reload, and ammo capacity.
I will say that it feels like the AR needs a buff. But maybe the 4 main rifles just need some rebalancing as a whole. The AR being by 'default' an assault weapon has lower RPM than the CR. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:28:00 -
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A buff to AR where? More damage? It can already melt it targets. More range? So it turns into a superlative stable non bs RR? More ROF? Turn it into the CR?
AR kills off shields and armor in equal amount, its a gallente ie in your face assault weapon, it works as intended, its just completely overshadowed by the CR.
CR atm is the only weapon that is out of place of all the main rifles with perhaps the laser rifle which is now incredibly deadly at its intended range but is completely balanced by its short range disadvantage, so yea sort the CR and all will be right in the world of main battle rifles.
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:32:00 -
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I've used CR for a long time and always used AR before 1.7 I still love AR and it's my favorite weapon, but the range nerf and rather low DPS compared to CR and RR have made it practically useless except in certain maps and situations. I don't really like CR all that much even though I always use it now. Yeah, I can use the regular burst variant like a full auto, but doing that all the time is kinda difficult as I don't use a modded controller. Plus it just feels OP considering when you run into someone with a Boundless and you're still dead in about 2-3 seconds, or I kill someone in the same amount of time with my own.
AR needs a rather large DPS buff if it's supposed to be the big CQC weapon (besides HMGs). Between the lack of range and the low ROF and damage output unless you get the jump on someone, you'll die to a good CR user every time (providing they know what they're doing that is.)
The slowdown effect needs to be gotten rid of entirely, it's especially BS with HMGs.
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Banjo Robertson
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:32:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:A buff to AR where? More damage? It can already melt it targets. More range? So it turns into a superlative stable non bs RR? More ROF? Turn it into the CR?
AR kills off shields and armor in equal amount, its a gallente ie in your face assault weapon, it works as intended, its just completely overshadowed by the CR.
CR atm is the only weapon that is out of place of all the main rifles with perhaps the laser rifle which is now incredibly deadly at its intended range but is completely balanced by its short range disadvantage, so yea sort the CR and all will be right in the world of main battle rifles.
I think the AR gets +10% vs shields and -10% vs armor so it doesnt 'kill shield and armor in equal ammount' plus the fact that its easier for suits to increase their armor than it is for them to increase their shields means once you take their shields down, which I admit is really quickly, you have a hard time taking down their armor.
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:37:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:CR is OP, needs more pgrid, less range and less base dmg TO BEGIN WITH
The AR wouldnt be bitched about if the CR was basically a tech 2 version of the AR. Its a Minmatar weapon, its supposed to have low PG/CPU Consumption. Increase its kick, by a lot, say no to random damage and range nerfs.
It has low resource consumption because Minmatar have low resources to begin with (I believe). Every suit needs some sort of racial bonus to their weapons to discourage people from fitting low-cost weapons and taking advantage of having more fitting resources available on suits that are meant for more resource intensive weapons, such as Amarr suits.
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Banjo Robertson
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:00:00 -
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Idealy I'd like to see a buff to ROF and clip size for the AR. I'm fine with it being the shortest range rifle, but really there should be some level of balance between max effective range and DPS, right now the highest DPS rifles also have longer ranges. Or re-tweaking its damage type to +10% vs shield and only -5% vs armor. |
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:54:00 -
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CR needs a burst delay
Either the assault combat rifle needs a damage nerf or the AR needs a buff (either ROF or DMG) |
Banjo Robertson
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:00:00 -
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I would agree with that. The old Tac AR is basically the current CR, with such a low delay its highly abusable. |
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