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Doctor Day
EoN Minmatar
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:30:00 -
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its wayyy to easy to 2 or 3 shot senitels in the back it should take 1 clip
Obvious troll is Obvious
TROLOLOLOLOL HEAR MY MIGHTY TROLOLOLOL
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5207
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:34:00 -
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It's way too easy to kill 3 non-brick-tanked Assault suits, or 3 Scouts with 3 shots from a Militia Sniper Rifle without reloading too.
And it's way too easy to run through 3 players at once when you get behind them with a Militia SMG and they're armour-tanked suits.
It's also way too easy to kill with a short burst from a Militia AR.
All those weapons should take a full clip to kill a player too, right?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2328
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:00:00 -
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Buff heavies HP!! we need more HP! More HP! Also, buff tanks HP and resistances and lower their price!
-#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:14:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Buff heavies HP!! we need more HP! More HP! Also, buff tanks HP and resistances and lower their price!
did you read 1.7 patchnotes?
Dedicated heavy through the hard times, still supporter of A FULL 1.8 respec and MOAR HEAVY WEAPONS!
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5211
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:15:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Buff heavies HP!! we need more HP! More HP! Also, buff tanks HP and resistances and lower their price! did you read 1.7 patchnotes?
You mean the ones you just quoted him reading out to you in this thread?
I think he might have. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2979
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:15:00 -
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Those must be some damn terrible sentinel fits to go down to a militia shotgun in just 2 shots - 2 shots doesn't even do 1000 damage, especially considering the resistances and poor damage profile against armor. 3 shots is more realistic but they'd still have to be utter crap sentinels with awful reaction times to not turn and mow you down in the one and a half seconds 3 shots take to fire.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5212
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:26:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Those must be some damn terrible sentinel fits to go down to a militia shotgun in just 2 shots - 2 shots doesn't even do 1000 damage, especially considering the resistances and poor damage profile against armor. 3 shots is more realistic but they'd still have to be utter crap sentinels with awful reaction times to not turn and mow you down in the one and a half seconds 3 shots take to fire.
But... but...
SCOUTS WITH CLACKS! You can't see where they're shooting you from! They're behind you, but you can't see them. And they stay cloaked FOREVER even while firing because you don't see them standing RIGHT THERE behind you and out of your line of sight. And that 25% dampening bonus makes them invisible to my 65dB scans so I CAN'T EVEN SCAN THEM (ignore the fact that they're invisible to my scans even without the cloak OR dampeners OR any skill invested in Scout suits... totally irrelevant to my complaint) CLACKS AND SHOTGUNS IZ OP NURFF NAO PLZ SEE SEA PEEEEEE!!!11!!!1!!!eleven!
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
222
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:29:00 -
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I have time after time stated that heavies are fine and CCP shouldn't consider taking away any of their health (which a LOT of people are calling for), but you can't have it both ways, as it is, I ran up against a Sentinel wielding a shotgun and we started a dance of death, I have 336 eHP, he had 1200. Don't tell me my shotgun is TOO strong, especially since nova knives can do more damage and the range is pretty much the same. People are just sick of seeing the shotgun around.
FYI, the militia ones only have 6 instead of 8 rounds and an additional .5 sec reload. Unless you have a blueprint and are trying to save money, its not worth running it cause it will get you killed, with the bad hit detection I can roll through 7 rounds to kill a heavy easily.
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Meknow Intaki
143
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:08:00 -
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You can tell what class and weapons people use by how they troll the op.. =ƒÿä |
Cruor Abominare
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
116
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:42:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:It's way too easy to kill 3 non-brick-tanked Assault suits, or 3 Scouts with 3 shots from a Militia Sniper Rifle without reloading too.
And it's way too easy to run through 3 players at once when you get behind them with a Militia SMG and they're armour-tanked suits.
It's also way too easy to kill with a short burst from a Militia AR.
All those weapons should take a full clip to kill a player too, right?
Your sig says it all.
amusingly they all do take a clip to kill a proper heavy fit. Op is still asking for a masturbatory revenge fantasy nerf. |
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
6
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:58:00 -
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This Heavy is fine with the state of Shotty's DPS.
I'd even go so far as to say they need a 50% range increase.
Kill the Cloak-fire bug and these chumps will be back on CRs in a minute.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5221
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:06:00 -
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Cruor Abominare wrote:amusingly they all do take a clip to kill a proper heavy fit. Op is still asking for a masturbatory revenge fantasy nerf.
In actual combat, they take a full clip.
In controlled situations (or against stupid enough Heavies) they can do it with only 3 hits on a good fit. |
noobsniper the 2nd
Inner.Hell
441
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:49:00 -
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Ya knw what if my prof 5 mlt shotty can 2 shot you im fine with that its a huge investment so its not OP
"things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2333
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:20:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Buff heavies HP!! we need more HP! More HP! Also, buff tanks HP and resistances and lower their price! did you read 1.7 patchnotes? You mean the ones you just quoted him reading out to you in this thread? I think he might have.
Thought it was quite obvious I was sarcastic...
-#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
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Tectonic Fusion
1595
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:48:00 -
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Bored person is bored. Don't take these posts with no passion seriously.
/thread
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
Ehem...OBVIOUSER troll is OBVIOUSER
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
4050
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:50:00 -
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Just a stretch here...but its a shotgun? Up close? At your back? Yea...
So what's the other side of the coin? It should take 6 cause you're a heavy? It's a shotgun.
Also, maybe core skills are upgraded? I run in my starter fits and I know some mercs I have killed must have a surprised but angry look on their face when they see its a MLT fit with a MLT assault rifle
Shrugs.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Eldest Dragon
Nyain Chan
468
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:17:00 -
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Doctor Day wrote:its wayyy to easy to 2 or 3 shot senitels in the back it should take 1 clip
Wtf are you smoking bro, its too hard to kill heavys as it is, its a sg.
If I get my scout/sg close enough to shoot you and shoot you 4 times you should die, when I run up and nail a heavy with 2 shots and then pump 2 more in him while hes turning around spraying bullets, he should be dead. Atm its still a toss up, 50% of the time the heavy still kills me before I get the final 4th or 5th shot in, basically any engagement with a heavy is high risk even when you get the jump on them.
As far as sg's go I can agree partially, nerf the militia and the basic, but buff the adv and the proto.Thats my opinion.
So you think cloak/sg scouts are op huh, tbh idk if it's op or not, but i'll tell ya one thing I sure do like it lol.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1279
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:20:00 -
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Eldest Dragon wrote:Doctor Day wrote:its wayyy to easy to 2 or 3 shot senitels in the back it should take 1 clip Wtf are you smoking bro, its too hard to kill heavys as it is, its a sg. If I get my scout/sg close enough to shoot you and shoot you 4 times you should die, when I run up and nail a heavy with 2 shots and then pump 2 more in him while hes turning around spraying bullets, he should be dead. Atm its still a toss up, 50% of the time the heavy still kills me before I get the final 4th or 5th shot in, basically any engagement with a heavy is high risk even when you get the jump on them. As far as sg's go I can agree partially, nerf the militia and the basic, but buff the adv and the proto.Thats my opinion.
You do know that 4 shots is too little? Heavies cant turn fast enough to kill you so...yea
I <3 girl gamers
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Tectonic Fusion
1599
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:41:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Eldest Dragon wrote:Doctor Day wrote:its wayyy to easy to 2 or 3 shot senitels in the back it should take 1 clip Wtf are you smoking bro, its too hard to kill heavys as it is, its a sg. If I get my scout/sg close enough to shoot you and shoot you 4 times you should die, when I run up and nail a heavy with 2 shots and then pump 2 more in him while hes turning around spraying bullets, he should be dead. Atm its still a toss up, 50% of the time the heavy still kills me before I get the final 4th or 5th shot in, basically any engagement with a heavy is high risk even when you get the jump on them. As far as sg's go I can agree partially, nerf the militia and the basic, but buff the adv and the proto.Thats my opinion. You do know that 4 shots is too little? Heavies cant turn fast enough to kill you so...yea
Mine can.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
Ehem...OBVIOUSER troll is OBVIOUSER
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1279
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:45:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Eldest Dragon wrote:Doctor Day wrote:its wayyy to easy to 2 or 3 shot senitels in the back it should take 1 clip Wtf are you smoking bro, its too hard to kill heavys as it is, its a sg. If I get my scout/sg close enough to shoot you and shoot you 4 times you should die, when I run up and nail a heavy with 2 shots and then pump 2 more in him while hes turning around spraying bullets, he should be dead. Atm its still a toss up, 50% of the time the heavy still kills me before I get the final 4th or 5th shot in, basically any engagement with a heavy is high risk even when you get the jump on them. As far as sg's go I can agree partially, nerf the militia and the basic, but buff the adv and the proto.Thats my opinion. You do know that 4 shots is too little? Heavies cant turn fast enough to kill you so...yea Mine can.
Most heavies get 3 shoted
Not everyone has 1,200 armor
I <3 girl gamers
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Spike Slania
Horizons' Edge
56
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:48:00 -
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I have no problem with where shotguns are currently. As the scouts are saying, you will kill an unskilled heavy in 2 shots, but an unskilled shotgun user will more than likely miss almost all of their shots giving the heavy a heads up, hey there's some one trying to kill you but is failing miserable so put him out of his misery. Then you got the really good people with shotguns from Fatal Absolution who charge straight at you sprinting faster then your can move to keep your hmg up with it and then dieing in like 1-2 shots with a shotty to the face. Man that guy was good. I know he at least went 20-0 that match.
I'm not too far from you, I can't wait to see you, again and again
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.04.27 05:30:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Eldest Dragon wrote:Doctor Day wrote:its wayyy to easy to 2 or 3 shot senitels in the back it should take 1 clip Wtf are you smoking bro, its too hard to kill heavys as it is, its a sg. If I get my scout/sg close enough to shoot you and shoot you 4 times you should die, when I run up and nail a heavy with 2 shots and then pump 2 more in him while hes turning around spraying bullets, he should be dead. Atm its still a toss up, 50% of the time the heavy still kills me before I get the final 4th or 5th shot in, basically any engagement with a heavy is high risk even when you get the jump on them. As far as sg's go I can agree partially, nerf the militia and the basic, but buff the adv and the proto.Thats my opinion. You do know that 4 shots is too little? Heavies cant turn fast enough to kill you so...yea Mine can. Most heavies get 3 shoted Not everyone has 1,200 armor
With my sensitivity at 100 for both ADS and hipfire, I can turn on most scouts and shred them instantly. I'll hear that first shot, turn, and kill the cocky bastard. Also, I'm in an Minmatar Sentinal suit with kincats and extenders...
I had one single scout try to kill me four times. He got me on the 5th try.
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