The turret thing is balance related, though I would also prefer their designation changed to be perhaps a less excessive measurement of power.
The scanner thing is I think represented by our passive scanning capabilities?

The map thing shoulanotherbeen there years ago.

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Can't be that hard to put in. I think people have been asking for a tac-net grid for a while though and we still don't have one. Can't imagine why.

In terms of vision, it needs to be mentioned that DUST mercs are literally never - N-E-V-E-R - using their "naked eyes" to see. We have no vision slits in our helmets.

There are cameras and other forward-facing sensors which record things in a wide spectrum, not just normal visible light, and that data is then translated into something our brains will process.

Basically, night vision, etc. are incorporated into what we see already.

the majority of players wouldnt even know or bother to learn about stuff like that, people in MAG would never even bother to figure out what platoon they were in or what squad they were in, half the time you hear people calling out directions they are bad at it anyway let alone involving more numbers and grid, its a great idea though something i'd personally enjoy, but i think it would lose most people

Sounds like your issues stem from dust being a game that attempts to achieve balanced gameplay.

you made a good point about directional awareness and relaying reliable information to your team. everything else was just silly.

Thermal imagery and night vision? We don't even have a night map anymore. And thermal would completely negate the purpose and use of the cloak. Making something completely useless isn't a hard counter, just bad game design.

Making guns have the ability to shoot across the entire map and pop anything, just because in theory they can achieve much longer distance is just ********. In EVE, everything is automated because its an entirely different genre of game that uses entirely different sets of rules. This is an FPS game and it needs to be balanced like one.

My advice is for you to start reading Sci - Fi war novels. You aren't gonna get flavor over function in a video game.

guided lock-on missiles (aside from swarms) need to be a thing.

thermal imaging is a great suggestion. as long as it has to activated and costs mercs module slot.

Hello,.... and sorry to Leonid and all the players who gave an endorsement to your point of view. I disgree with most of what you're wishing for.

From time to time the forum repeatedly flares up with one of three counter POVs that (respectfully) challenge Dust's structure: One is the POV from the Classic FPS gamers among us who suggested Dust should correct itself and join the "ole-guard" design of traditional shooters...stop trying to be so DIFFERENT...

One is the POV that all weapons in this fantasy game should be matched to a real-life counterpart weapon, and immitate its performance and physics. Dust's SMG should be like the Karlov Precision IV smg made in Prussia between 1990-1994; the mass-driver should be modified to mirror the US thump-gun from Vietnam era, etc...

I'm not a military-buff (I know the names of many of today's and yesterday's war pieces, but that doesn't make me JACK, LOL). But my photography interest got me plugged into flight-based games alot, so I'm always drawn to "flying controls" and "aerodynamics" in lots of my games. That's the THIRD POV that flares up from time to time... "The flight-characteristics of the DS, and the ground-characteristics of the HAVs ought to comply with the Bell AH- Hawk and the Bradley Fighting Vehicle---CCP needs some advice about...."
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I TRY not to get into the trap of wanting Dropships to "fly" and have things in the game comply with real-combat entities. PC and Playstation have made some pretty solid contibutions to "photo-realistic, militarily-faithful" combat games.... Eve Online and Dust 514 clearly appear to want to escape any relationships to Earth-race or Earth-tech (kinda the reason why for me it's a nice break from gritty Sturmovik and heavenly BoS). Trying to increase military-realism in a game with tiny maps and TONS of counter-technology going on... is going to burden the balancing act unnecessarily.

Perhaps as a result of its pioneering-track, "Balance" is more crucial to this game than ANY we may have typically play.
By the way, it's sort of a balance of "player behavior" that CCP is struggling to tweak, not really raw-clinical balance of the playing pieces. We're seeing this is REALLY hard to acheive, and I don't think it's necessarily doing it wrong if some of the weapons/vehicles they originally intended to be POWERFUL, have to be curbed down and twitched up until the way players USE them is controlled enough to have a fun game.

I want the gear, the personal protection technology, and the vehicles to be CONVINCING, not comical. That's true. But I don't think it's a good idea for Dust to be "combat-realistic" in the way some of us are wishing.

Lol, that game is FAR from what dust is. I did play it, if you are referring to the only good one, and alien was by far more enjoyable the predator or humans. Though admittedly the predator vs squad of humans game mode was pretty entertaining.

Again, a far different type of FPS then what dust is. Predators and aliens could OHK anyone and the TTK was shorter then CoD. Not to mention a large portion of the game was centered around different forms of imagery so yea, of course an entire game designed around a concept can pull it off.

Just because it works in one game, doesn't mean it will in others.

Don't create a thread on a forum if you cant handle criticism and difference of opinion.

What bothers me the most out of this "sci-fi" game is the range of everything.
It's pathetic.
Modern day rifles have way more range than these airsoft Dust rifles.
Not to mention tanks! Just play World of Tanks with WW2 vehicles and laugh at the "super advanced tanks" that can't shoot further than 300 meters or something.

In an era where battles are fought over tens of kilometers in space, where an Orbital Strike can reach the planet surface with quite good accuracy, but a tank ON THE SURFACE can't shoot further than a few hundred meters?

I laughed at the "mushroom thingy" part, since that is exactly how we call it in our Corp.

I am also surprised that these super advanced suits don't have anything like... pneumatic legs to jump higher, or a mini jump drive in the boots.
So many possibilities, and so many wasted.

Actually Leonid, the stuff you mentioned in this quote IS stuff I mostly WOULD agree with you about. LOL!

I wouldn't want future-EARTH technology reflected in the game (CCP cleverly crafted the New Eden lore so that these Gallente, Amar, etc have originated from Earth, but are so long detached, reduced to primordial, and forced to evolve independent for generations, that CCP can claim they're not Earth-related at all).

But yes, it DOES make sense, and is painfully lacking sometimes, for some some more understandable "physics" to be attached to the technology (not earth physics necessarily, but believable physics that follows a general course of logic).
I sense some of your logic, Leonid, in the descriptions of some of the gear early in Dust's introduction:

--Drop Uplink that causes gradual degradation of the clone body and eventual death the more times you use it to spawn on the map.

--Dangerous heat discharge from Amar laser-based weaponry that is harmful to the user if you fire it incessantly.

--CRU field was supposed to drain a percentage of the player's health and shielding when you first spawn and step away from the CRU.

Maybe that much physics was originally their intent, but they decided to "dumb down" the game until they could get a better knowledge of how "smart and logical" a game we console players can handle.
LOL, we PS3 players do tend to be more visceral than cerebral...