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Echo 1991
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:22:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:we need more supply depots on the field.
ohh @ OP, I hear you about not being able to change suits. But self-destructing after a while?? Bad idea. For those that don't die in matches, we would have to die in order to get ammo? This is where my statement of "tactical play" comes in. You would need to plan ahead. Supply Depots run out of ammo? No problem, you have a logi on your team dropping hives. This also negates the massive equipment spam because people switch from suit to suit placing as many hives as they can (and uplinks) which cause latency and lag issues. The Depot would self destruct because it would have no more supplies. With no more supplies it means you can't very well "change" into your same fit for more ammo. Its still a bad idea for a supply depot to have a limited amount of ammo available. What if i need to switch to AV? Thats not something that i feel i should plan for, come in with a swarm launcher because i cant switch suits. Rather than do this to stop equip spam, put a limit to the amount of a certain type of equipment. Like only 3 uplinks can be put down at a time by a player or like 3 nanohives. We barely have enough supply depots as it is. |
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:33:00 -
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This idea is just bad. I shouldnt have to die to change a suit. |
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:39:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:This idea is just bad. I shouldnt have to die to change a suit. or go all the way back to home base. LOL Its quicker to die |
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:43:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:why should a tanker be able to go to a vehicle anywhere if an aver has to go back to base to change to an av fit.
limit vehicles and make them only be allowed to be called in in designated areas. removing fit change on supply depots is a bad idea at the moment. Did I ever say to implement it "soon"? I just said it's something that should happen. Quote:This idea is just bad. I shouldnt have to die to change a suit. This is just QQ because you would be forced to stay in the same suit all match unless you returned to base to swap out. It forces teamplay and tactics. It does not force teamplay. A team cannot drop equipment to let you change suits. Also not really tactics if they can just call in a tank and stomp you and you cant do anything.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:52:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Echo 1991 wrote: It does not force teamplay. A team cannot drop equipment to let you change suits. Also not really tactics if they can just call in a tank and stomp you and you cant do anything.
You're ignoring the point. You're assuming this was in the game right now. Obviously it's a bad idea if in the game right now because of how imbalanced it is. It does force teamplay because they can keep you supplied with ammo, equipment and such. Just because you can't swap out to your AVfit/otherproto fit to regain your health and gain temporary invincibility doesn't mean you can't do well in a match. Quote:why should it be implemented if its a bad idea and tanks dont need teamplay or tactics? and again tankers dont need to return to base to swtich vehicles so why should we? Refer to this: Quote:You're ignoring the point. You're assuming this was in the game right now. Obviously it's a bad idea if in the game right now because of how imbalanced it is. The RDV is a terrible vehicle deployment method and should be revised: but that is not the nature of this topic. Then you are encouraging slayer logis and scouts leaving the assault with no point in being used. Everyone would just run logi or scout with a few hevies thrown in. Again thats not teamplay or tactics. |
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Posted - 2014.04.25 09:09:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Echo 1991 wrote: Then you are encouraging slayer logis and scouts leaving the assault with no point in being used. Everyone would just run logi or scout with a few hevies thrown in. Again thats not teamplay or tactics.
Assaults would still be used. They are the front runners. They need ammo? Resupply. No Supply Depot? Go find a logi who dropped hives, or carry one yourself. Scouts should have 1 equipment slot, not 2. That is also another topic. Of course most people would run logi/scout/heavy. Logi would reap in the points and everyone would get ammos. Scouts would do what they do and Heavies would need to stick by logis, as is what is necessary. They consume ammo faster than a 1960's Ford does gas and need the logi for reps (assuming they run Amarr/Gallente). Assault suits are meant to ground-pound the front lines. Scouts are borked right now, which is, again, another topic. :Assault suits should be the DPS machines in medium-long reange engagements. Heavies are your CQC/Defensive suits and Scouts are your stealthy flanking-gonna-BUFU-you-without-a-reach-around.: And while a logi can hold a light weapon and 4 equipment slots why would anyone use an assault suit? |
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Posted - 2014.04.25 09:19:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Echo 1991 wrote: Then you are encouraging slayer logis and scouts leaving the assault with no point in being used. Everyone would just run logi or scout with a few hevies thrown in. Again thats not teamplay or tactics.
Assaults would still be used. They are the front runners. They need ammo? Resupply. No Supply Depot? Go find a logi who dropped hives, or carry one yourself. Scouts should have 1 equipment slot, not 2. That is also another topic. Of course most people would run logi/scout/heavy. Logi would reap in the points and everyone would get ammos. Scouts would do what they do and Heavies would need to stick by logis, as is what is necessary. They consume ammo faster than a 1960's Ford does gas and need the logi for reps (assuming they run Amarr/Gallente). Assault suits are meant to ground-pound the front lines. Scouts are borked right now, which is, again, another topic. :Assault suits should be the DPS machines in medium-long reange engagements. Heavies are your CQC/Defensive suits and Scouts are your stealthy flanking-gonna-BUFU-you-without-a-reach-around.: And while a logi can hold a light weapon and 4 equipment slots why would anyone use an assault suit? >Going into yet another topic unrelated to Supply Depots Its not. You say that logis will be needed because supply depots will be gone. Why would anyone run something that will hinder them? In your scenario, any suit that carries only 1 equipment or no equipment would be gimped. We would have to make sure that at least 5-6 (maybe more) people were logis because ammo would disappear fast. Also, given we all stay alive long enough. What do we do when we run out of equipment? |
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