I like the double isk idea, but see the possibility of it just compounding the issue of protobears in pubs. .

but heres the thing, proto stompers will always be proto stompers. The bigger corps are full of em' and they provide $ for the corp members so they stay proto stomping, while you got guys like us trying so hard to make a profit each match against proto gear.

You are correct, some proto stompers will be proto stompers. This is motly because of funds from PC, corp subsidies, etc. PC has it's own issues which I won't go into here, but I agree that PC funds going into pubs is a problem.

However, if you were to raise the payouts, players like me, who currently only dabble in proto, would be able to afford and use it much more often. Right now, the amount of ISK I earn is the only thing holding me back. If you raise that, I would be able to afford (and probably would) proto much more. Then the difference between me and a noob becomes skillpoints (rather than both skillpoint and ISK limitations), and I think you see where I am going with this.

The current payouts limit the amount of proto stomping to those who are subsidized by their corp in some way, those who have been frugal and are rich, and those who use aurum gear. If you raise the payouts, aurum gear sales would go down (I know, saving ISK isn't the only reason people use AUR gear, but it's one of the main 2 reasons people do it), which in turn, hurts CCP and game development.

You are correct, some proto stompers will be proto stompers. This is motly because of funds from PC, corp subsidies, etc. PC has it's own issues which I won't go into here, but I agree that PC funds going into pubs is a problem.

However, if you were to raise the payouts, players like me, who currently only dabble in proto, would be able to afford and use it much more often. Right now, the amount of ISK I earn is the only thing holding me back. If you raise that, I would be able to afford (and probably would) proto much more. Then the difference between me and a noob becomes skillpoints (rather than both skillpoint and ISK limitations), and I think you see where I am going with this.

The current payouts limit the amount of proto stomping to those who are subsidized by their corp in some way, those who have been frugal and are rich, and those who use aurum gear. If you raise the payouts, aurum gear sales would go down (I know, saving ISK isn't the only reason people use AUR gear, but it's one of the main 2 reasons people do it), which in turn, hurts CCP and game development.

whats the point of a currency mechanic if were intended to all afford top tier all the time?

I am requesting the amount of isk we get paid at the end of a match to be doubled. Its not an easy task to break even in this game, and if your like me, you don't like using budget suits because quite frankly, you don't like dying in 3 shots. If this is too much to ask, hows about side tasks with the contracts we can take on for like 50,000 isk, and it we pull it off, we are rewarded with more isk. So it would be like;



Objective: Capture or assist capture an objective and get 5 kills near the objective

Challenge cost: -20,000 isk

Completion reward:+200,000 isk

Challenge duration: 2 matches



I am open to criticism

This is stupid. First off. Run a damn MLT MIn-Heavy with a MLT kinkat, your LW of choice, SA of choice, Nade of choice and run amok. You aren't dying in 3 shots...i promise. The Gal MLT Med can also stack 3 mlt armor plates and an equipment. Grind it out like the rest of us.

um, YOU can run that stuff if your actually that broke. My grinding gear is all adv. I may consider myself as broke, but not that broke to use that stuff. And you mentioned the gallente med suit that fits armor plates, you do realize not every one only uses armor plates right? Also, I don't know who this rest of us is, but not all of us have a lot of spare time on our hands to do this. But thanks for stating the obvious thing to do, which BTW, I made this post to avoid.

I have over 100 mil ISK. I'm not broke silly.

* How to stop being poor. This main aspect applies to the real world as well.

2: Make sure you know how much each suit costs, part of your suit name should be the suit cost (For example, "Amarr Sent HMG- 17K"). Often you might not realize how much ISK you're losing, when you're losing a suit.

3: You don't have to run "Free" starter suits to make ISK. Be like Macklemore, go to the dollar store, buy some s#*t and rock that mother****er. You'd be surprised how little difference there is between 10-15K basic fitted suit, and an similar 45K advanced fitted suit.

Most of the suits I run are 15-20K. Some are as cheap as 5K. That's not to say that I don't splurge on nice toys every once in a while, but 85% of the time, I'm in a suit that costs less than 20K, because I know, otherwise I wont be able to afford those nice toys.

Then stop ********. I would expect as much for someone who has time to isk grind "silly"

I don't know if you realize this, but I dropped the whole idea about doubling the pay and sticking to my idea of challenges. but also, remember this; if the money was doubled, you would still have to be superior in a match to make 500,000+

They should make isk payouts based on the price of the gear the enemies lost. This means, when a proto stomp group goes up against 16 blueberries fresh from academy, yes they can pad their kdr but they don't get any real isk payout. However, if each blueberry has one lucky shot and kills a proto, they'll all get 200k isk.

This also means if your in one of those awesome rare battles where the teams are balanced and everyone stays fighting till the end, both sides will get a massive payout and running proto in that type of match will be justified.