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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:01:00 -
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Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops.
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Cheydinhal Guard
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:10:00 -
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I don't have trouble taking down most armor tanked suits, except for heavies. I can hardly ever get them to half armor before overheating. Free kill for them I guess...
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:11:00 -
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Cheydinhal Guard wrote:I don't have trouble taking down most armor tanked suits, except for heavies. I can hardly ever get them to half armor before overheating. Free kill for them I guess...
I can kill noob gallente suits and Amarr. But not a 3 enhanced armor plates gallente.
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:11:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops.
Bro i feel you.
Replace it with a Combat Rifle and be happy.
Thats my advice.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:15:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops. Bro i feel you.
Replace it with a Combat Rifle and be happy.
Thats my advice.
I really like the guerrilla warefare with the Scrambler Rifle though. But I do like running the combat rifle. It's my second favorite next to the scrambler rifle. I use a cal scout with it also, popping in and out of cover and taking out targets with tactically placed heashots, or just being a derp and hopping around to kill them.
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Yoma Carrim
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:18:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops.
There are many Caldari that would like to protest this statement about that never to be sufficiently d*mned riffle.
Also why are you trying to kill Gallente stuff with an anti-shield weapon?
Oh Heck
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:20:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops. There are many Caldari that would like to protest this statement about that never to be sufficiently d*mned riffle. Also why are you trying to kill Gallente stuff with an anti-shield weapon?
Because it's a gun, and it should be able to kill all suits except armor tanked heavys. How would you feel if your combat rifle couldn't kill my caldari assault suit?
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:21:00 -
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7166
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:21:00 -
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First off, If you can't down a Min or Cal Assault with a Scrambler Rifle, you need some serious help.
The Scrambler Rifle already excels at it's intended purpose, which is to annihilate Shield users. It is not meant to be effective against Armor Tankers in the same sense that Explosive weapons (such as the Mass Driver & Flaylock Pistol) are not meant to be effective against Shield Tankers.
When you ask yourself "Are SCRs effective against Shield users?" and the answer is no, then it will need an adjustment. Untill then it is working as intended.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:23:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:
Because it's a gun, and it should be able to kill all suits except armor tanked heavys. How would you feel if your combat rifle couldn't kill my caldari assault suit?
I'd feel disappointed, as the Combat Rifle is supposed to be the answer to players who dual tank.
The Rail Rifle is meant to be the answer to Armor Tankers, but I'd be okay with it if it meant an increase of effectiveness against armor.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:23:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops. There are many Caldari that would like to protest this statement about that never to be sufficiently d*mned riffle. Also why are you trying to kill Gallente stuff with an anti-shield weapon?
The CR is a armor bonused weapon yet it still r@pes shields.
The ScR is very, very weak against armor, and since most players armor tank, the scrambler is weak in general. I used to love the scrambler, now I only love using it against scouts.
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Yoma Carrim
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:24:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops. There are many Caldari that would like to protest this statement about that never to be sufficiently d*mned riffle. Also why are you trying to kill Gallente stuff with an anti-shield weapon? Because it's a gun, and it should be able to kill all suits except armor tanked heavys. How would you feel if your combat rifle couldn't kill my caldari assault suit?
I'm not really sure I don't remember the last time I picked up a Combat rifle
I mostly stick to the ARR and my Templar ScR.
Oh Heck
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Tectonic Fusion
1535
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:First off, If you can't down a Min or Cal Assault with a Scrambler Rifle, you need some serious help.
The Scrambler Rifle already excels at it's intended purpose, which is to annihilate Shield users. It is not meant to be effective against Armor Tankers in the same sense that Explosive weapons (such as the Mass Driver & Flaylock Pistol) are not meant to be effective against Shield Tankers.
When you ask yourself "Are SCRs effective against Shield users?" and the answer is no, then it will need an adjustment. Untill then it is working as intended.
I can kill caldari and minmatar suits lol
I'm saying it's uber crap if they stack armor plates. It needs to be able to kill them before overheat, which just a disadvantage...
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:27:00 -
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Sure buff me.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:28:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sure buff me.
Me first.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7166
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:34:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:
I can kill caldari and minmatar suits lol
Then what's the problem?
Tectonic Fusion wrote:
I'm saying it's uber crap if they stack armor plates. It needs to be able to kill them before overheat, which just a disadvantage...
So your complaining that someone countered your weapon by using its weakness?
You already have the best Anti-Shield profile in the game (+20%). Your sacrifice in being able to easily destroy Shielded targets is your ineffectiveness against armor (-20%).
If you want SCRs to effective against Armor, then you have to give up the +20% profile against shields. You aren't having a weapon that doesn't make sacrifices.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9709
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:34:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Absolutely destroys scout, but it sucks against assaults and heavys. I'm of course talking about non Amarr suits. It should be able to at least solo an advanced Gallente decked out suit without overheating. I mean come on...seriously? It sucks against them, but it shouldn't suck THIS much. Proto scouts are really easy to kill with this thing, but I don't think it was in the description for primarily being a scout killer...
Give it enough of a buff so I can let off 20 shots instead of 15. That will do it.
OR decrease overheat time. It really. Really sucks. It feels like an eternity when hopping around.
EDIT: Especially since you normally have to reload right after the overheat stops. There are many Caldari that would like to protest this statement about that never to be sufficiently d*mned riffle. Also why are you trying to kill Gallente stuff with an anti-shield weapon?
You don't really get much of choice what suit type you go up against......
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7166
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:39:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
You don't really get much of choice what suit type you go up against......
Which is why you always come prepared.
If your packing SCRs, bring an Anti-Armor sidearm (SMGs, MSMGs, Flaylocks, etc.) and/or Locus Grenades.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9709
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:
You don't really get much of choice what suit type you go up against......
Which is why you always come prepared. If your packing SCRs, bring an Anti-Armor sidearm (SMGs, MSMGs, Flaylocks, etc.) and/or Locus Grenades.
Pfff only if you have no faith in the Wargear of your people.
Pfff only scrubs mix and match weapon efficiencies on various appropriate dropsuits for a tactical adavantage......gosh
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Spectre-M
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:42:00 -
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I've only used it a little after 1.8. Seriously, the proficiency change and blanket rifle nerf has rendered it very niche.
I had pro 5 and fitting opt, but it's no longer an effective killing rifle, just an assist farmer.
I have switched to the CR because if I don't use it, im as good as dead.
Oh well, my samurai fit is useless ( Amarr ass ). When they changed the pro skill they effectively made anything armor more powerful. Tanks better and kills better.
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Minnmatar in Amarr Armor
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:
You don't really get much of choice what suit type you go up against......
Which is why you always come prepared. If your packing SCRs, bring an Anti-Armor sidearm (SMGs, MSMGs, Flaylocks, etc.) and/or Locus Grenades.
I can't fit that on my adv cal scout without sacrificing a lot of EHP.
Atiim wrote:So your complaining that someone countered your weapon by using its weakness?
You already have the best Anti-Shield profile in the game (+20%). Your sacrifice in being able to easily destroy Shielded targets is your ineffectiveness against armor (-20%).
If you want SCRs to effective against Armor, then you have to give up the +20% profile against shields. You aren't having a weapon that doesn't make sacrifices.
Nerp. It should be able to kill them. I don't mind the ineffectiveness, I just want to be able to kill one of them without overheating.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:50:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:
You don't really get much of choice what suit type you go up against......
Which is why you always come prepared. If your packing SCRs, bring an Anti-Armor sidearm (SMGs, MSMGs, Flaylocks, etc.) and/or Locus Grenades. I can't fit that on my adv cal scout without sacrificing a lot of EHP.
You can't fit 9CPU and 2PG without sacrificing a load of eHP? Really?
Though you are a Light Frame. eHP shouldn't be a concern in the first place.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:
You don't really get much of choice what suit type you go up against......
Which is why you always come prepared. If your packing SCRs, bring an Anti-Armor sidearm (SMGs, MSMGs, Flaylocks, etc.) and/or Locus Grenades. I can't fit that on my adv cal scout without sacrificing a lot of EHP. You can't fit 9CPU and 2PG without sacrificing a load of eHP? Really? Though you are a Light Frame. eHP shouldn't be a concern in the first place.
The M209 is not that low...
I'm stuck with using the flaylock.
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