DUST Search - CCP, is it even worth it?

Maken Tosch wrote:

They do listen. The problem is reading through the useless crap that people post on the forums. Imagine seeing a well thought out and constructive idea and criticism that is well worth anyone's attention yet it ends up buried under 3-5 pages of useless thread after useless thread. It has happened to me several times and to many other players.

There is also the fact that many people in the forums often spew a lot of hate and conspiracy theories about how CCP is intending to kill Dust for some reason or that somehow CCP has a bias towards a certain class of suits and so on without so much as a shred of evidence and then expecting people to accept their conspiracy theories as fact. You see that far more often than constructive threads and that saddens me a lot that such good criticism often gets flooded by pointless bickering. And the good threads that do get noticed often get hijacked by trolls who want to derail those good threads with silly comments like "CCP doesn't listen" or "GET GUD NEWB".

As I have pointed out countless times throughout my time here on the forums, I don't mind negative criticism at all as long as that negative criticism is very constructive and doesn't go so far as to bash the devs with unproductive comments like "CCP SUXS" or something like that.

Unfortunately there are just too many people out there that don't care and just want to flood the forums with useless crap.


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Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2107	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:02:00 - [1] - Quote trying to communicate with you guys, posting threads on real issues (not the nerf this buff that QQ crap but the real issues PC, npe, matchmaking etc) do you all even care? do you all have any respect for the core of this community? and I don't mean the trolls, cpm or big corp heads, I mean the majority of players who have been here since closed/open beta and the new players since who have stuck it out and put money into this game. I know I have been brutal to you all, and quite frankly I would be amazed if I get a blue tag. I have to tell you the people who really care about this game are burnt out and don't really create many threads anymore on the deep seeded issues of dust because its like talking to a brick wall. yeah some make decent threads and post youtube vids, but these few are such a small portion of your community that care and you could have so much more if we thought you actually gave a crap about the time and effort we put into your game and our feedback. so is it worth it ccp? am I wasting my breath now even? do our voices matter? this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2110	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:09:00 - [2] - Quote so is it worth it ccp? this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2110	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:14:00 - [3] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: trying to communicate with you guys, posting threads on real issues (not the nerf this buff that QQ crap but the real issues PC, npe, matchmaking etc) do you all even care? do you all have any respect for the core of this community? and I don't mean the trolls, cpm or big corp heads, I mean the majority of players who have been here since closed/open beta and the new players since who have stuck it out and put money into this game. I know I have been brutal to you all, and quite frankly I would be amazed if I get a blue tag. I have to tell you the people who really care about this game are burnt out and don't really create many threads anymore on the deep seeded issues of dust because its like talking to a brick wall. yeah some make decent threads and post youtube vids, but these few are such a small portion of your community that care and you could have so much more if we thought you actually gave a crap about the time and effort we put into your game and our feedback. so is it worth it ccp? am I wasting my breath now even? do our voices matter? Some people's voices matter. Yours? Probably not. glad you cleared that up. this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2111	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:25:00 - [4] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: If they gave any fucks, we'd have seen it 6+ months ago with a MM fix before 50% of the playerbase migrated. If they had any fucks to give, they would've put them into a completed title for official release at an appropriate date, not break the game and throw it at an anxious crowd of patrons on a childishly, cutesy date. If they gave a ****, CCP would end Dust development in Shanghai and move somewhere that wouldn't deter staffing better programmers. I have to agree with this 100% but I am willing to give ccp the chance to tell us otherwise.... the threads right here ccp, should we bother with our feedback, is it worth spending money on your game? please tell us, is it even worth it? this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2118	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:33:00 - [5] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Tali Di'Dreassess wrote: Since there are loads of hackers/cheaters, CCP does nothing about them. Like when our red line was removed and there were tanks and two squads shooting anyone spawning in on our ground spawn or MMC. But its fine because people spend money and if a hacker/cheater spends money why stop them. that's a lie and you know it yeah I don't buy this bologna either.... this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2121	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:49:00 - [6] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: They do listen. The problem is reading through the useless crap that people post on the forums. Imagine seeing a well thought out and constructive idea and criticism that is well worth anyone's attention yet it ends up buried under 3-5 pages of useless thread after useless thread. It has happened to me several times and to many other players. There is also the fact that many people in the forums often spew a lot of hate and conspiracy theories about how CCP is intending to kill Dust for some reason or that somehow CCP has a bias towards a certain class of suits and so on without so much as a shred of evidence and then expecting people to accept their conspiracy theories as fact. You see that far more often than constructive threads and that saddens me a lot that such good criticism often gets flooded by pointless bickering. And the good threads that do get noticed often get hijacked by trolls who want to derail those good threads with silly comments like "CCP doesn't listen" or "GET GUD NEWB". As I have pointed out countless times throughout my time here on the forums, I don't mind negative criticism at all as long as that negative criticism is very constructive and doesn't go so far as to bash the devs with unproductive comments like "CCP SUXS" or something like that. Unfortunately there are just too many people out there that don't care and just want to flood the forums with useless crap. but if we are able to sift through the BS surely ccp could if it mattered to them right? and I've seen posts 30+ pages and months old that were not on page 1 finally get a blue tag with the beginning phrase " a reply to this post is long over due".... you would also think if they cared they would make more of an attempt to control misinformation and defend themselves...what else are we supposed to think if 1 suit type always seems to get attention over others? I don't participate in those types of conspiracy threads but I get where they are coming from... like those poor plc users, they have never gotten love, why shouldn't they think ccp hates the plc? maken tosch, you and I have been here for quite awhile, we have seen page 1 full of amazing suggestions and much needed changes with maybe 1% being responded to, the forums weren't always this bad....you have to agree ccp made this mess through their inaction and failure to respond to the community in a meaningful way... the state dust is in didn't happen over night game or forum wise, and it wont be fixed over night....but what if anything does ccp do to fix it, so far the best I can say they have done is fired a lot of the staff who made this mess, but the new guys haven't done much to improve this debacle now, have they? this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2149	Posted - 2014.04.25 04:36:00 - [7] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Well your a ****. The reason a lot of vets don't post "serious topics" everyday, because we have already posted them and there is no need to post it over and over again for the message to get through. I'm sure CCP enjoys that you spend time on their game but don't say stuff like "do you have any idea how much people who care about this game spend on it?" Do you have any idea how much time the devs spend on it?! Poor form mate, I care about this game too and I enjoy playing it I understand CCP works slowly and I'm patient, I suggest you relax your crack. you have always been a sycophant (no offence) and there are small numbers in your breed right now....I was once like you, but I've been let down many of us have, many who were once like you, but are now burnt out on the empty promises of ccp and their lack of meaningful dialog with us.... I obviously haven't given up on them or this game in spite of my present vitriol for the situation this game is in right now....bad form? I'm just speaking my mind, if that's bad form, well then, I'm fine with that. you and I have never seen eye to eye on anything, so quite frankly I don't expect you to understand my position, or care.... this game makes me sad....