DUST Search - You guys think tanks are bad now?

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Mejt0 wrote:

Youre defending broken mechanism.

And what do you mean by saying about price an investition? Av costs more, sp and isks (due to number of fits needed). Also price means nothing.
Tank cost 3x over 1x suit so it should be superior? No

Veh spam = win button.

The whole game is broken so which mechanism are you speaking about ???

It's broken because of players who think like yourself and try to tell others how they should play in a role that you don't play because you don't like the outcome .

That's more broken then anything else and leads to the constant breaking of this game threw nerfs and buffs .

Players don't like how scouts are playing THEIR role so the community asks for nerfs .

Logi's shouldn't be able to defend themselves in a battlefield setting so the community asks for nerfs .

Heavies should not be enforcers ... they do that too good so the community asks for their role to be nerfed .

I can't use a vehicle because two of the same vehicle on the battlefield is considered spam by most in the community so they asked for the vehicles to be nerfed .

I mean when will it stop ??? Defend that type of thinking all you like and what you do is kill a game that was meant to challenge the mind and test one's mental make up threw battlefield simulations .

What the hell do you people want ???

Oh yeah easy victories . I guess if this game had battle carriers on the open waters , they would complain because they couldn't solo it with a swarm .

I mean get a life and wake up already .

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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5962	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:06:00 - [1] - Quote How long do you think it'll be before the return of blackops tanks? You know they're coming. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2303	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:11:00 - [2] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: How long do you think it'll be before the return of blackops tanks? You know they're coming, this time buffed. Well, it's pretty bad that STD tanks are so hard to kill. I really hope they do rebalance Vehicle/AV before implementing ADV and PRO tanks, because the situation on certain maps (read the bridge domination) is unsustainable. Reading here on the forums there are plenty of good suggestion and feedbacks tho... -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 25	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:13:00 - [3] - Quote I think AV is bad now.
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster 602	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:13:00 - [4] - Quote "oh im just gunna defend this objective....uncloak noise -BLAM! BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!-- AHHHHHHHH!!!" precursor in a nut shell closed beta Vet >In a man to man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine. Erwin Rommel
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 972	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:13:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah but on the bright side at least proto AV will be able to be balanced against them instead of standard tanks. Support Orbital Spawns
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5964	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:16:00 - [6] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Yeah but on the bright side at least proto AV will be able to be balanced against them instead of standard tanks. Indeed. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
LittleCuteBunny 427	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:17:00 - [7] - Quote Burst damage with team work can blow any vehicle in seconds and players only require time to start coordinating. Although, I would like to see ADV and PRO tanks I doubt CCP will be delivering more vehicles to this game any time soon (at least in 1 or 2 years)... they are SLOW Retired.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 426	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:18:00 - [8] - Quote My jihad lav will be ready for action. Yesterday I killed 8 tanks!! By far the best AV and free using LAV and suit BPO s
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 485	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:18:00 - [9] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Yeah but on the bright side at least proto AV will be able to be balanced against them instead of standard tanks. c'mon man you know CCP, these cloaked BO tanks will be bricked u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Void Echo Total Extinction 2471	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:31:00 - [10] - Quote last I checked black ops tanks were the worst tanks in closed beta, then came the enforcers, practically brothers to black ops in the case of sucking. Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 973	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:44:00 - [11] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Yeah but on the bright side at least proto AV will be able to be balanced against them instead of standard tanks. c'mon man you know CCP, these cloaked BO tanks will be bricked I'm a dreamer. Support Orbital Spawns
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 426	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:44:00 - [12] - Quote I'm fine with tanks, the only thing I think they should change is tanks should be on your radar at least on 60 meters no matter which suit you use. It's a freaking tank, how can my super duper jigh end sensors not pick up something that huge? another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 426	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:45:00 - [13] - Quote Void Echo wrote: last I checked black ops tanks were the worst tanks in closed beta, then came the enforcers, practically brothers to black ops in the case of sucking. Yep. BOHAVs were fun, but total **** when it came to actual fighting. They just didn't fit into the meta then, and I'm not sure that they will now. Enforcers were just a case of needing more HP and slightly improved speed (but still slower than regular HAVs), they needed to be a brick wall area-denial unit, and they just weren't. Too slow to skirmish, too weak to brawl. It just needed some help is all. Marauders would be a nice thing to bring back, but with much reduced HP, 1 or 2 more slots, slightly more fitting power, and much increased speed. Also, when I talk about HP I mean pre-1.7 levels. 5200 EHP without any kind of modules is just silly. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2502	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:53:00 - [14] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Void Echo wrote: last I checked black ops tanks were the worst tanks in closed beta, then came the enforcers, practically brothers to black ops in the case of sucking. Yep. BOHAVs were fun, but total **** when it came to actual fighting. They just didn't fit into the meta then, and I'm not sure that they will now. Enforcers were just a case of needing more HP and slightly improved speed (but still slower than regular HAVs), they needed to be a brick wall area-denial unit, and they just weren't. Too slow to skirmish, too weak to brawl. It just needed some help is all. Marauders would be a nice thing to bring back, but with much reduced HP, 1 or 2 more slots, slightly more fitting power, and much increased speed. Also, when I talk about HP I mean pre-1.7 levels. 5200 EHP without any kind of modules is just silly. Seems like you have Enforcers and Marauders backwards in this statement. I would be all for both of them returning tbh. Although we need more modules first, atm there is little variety in fitting basic tanks now, specialist tanks dont have a lot of reason atm until we have more modules to diversify.
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 335	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:58:00 - [15] - Quote I know its going to be a pain whenever the release MTACs. How skewed is the AV/V balance going to be when a giant robot is strolling through the neighborhood? The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 479	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:00:00 - [16] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: "oh im just gunna defend this objective....uncloak noise -BLAM! BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!-- AHHHHHHHH!!!" precursor in a nut shell Don't think a cloaked tank will be able to do that, unless the cloak includes a sound suppressor of the engine noise. As infantry you should be able to hear a tank "sneak up" on you. A cloaked tank will probably only be useful against other vehicles.
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 118	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:17:00 - [17] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: I know its going to be a pain whenever the release MTACs. How skewed is the AV/V balance going to be when a giant robot is strolling through the neighborhood? They better be able to jump high because on some maps they'll be denies access otherwise. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 973	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:25:00 - [18] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Sev Alcatraz wrote: "oh im just gunna defend this objective....uncloak noise -BLAM! BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!-- AHHHHHHHH!!!" precursor in a nut shell Don't think a cloaked tank will be able to do that, unless the cloak includes a sound suppressor of the engine noise. As infantry you should be able to hear a tank "sneak up" on you. A cloaked tank will probably only be useful against other vehicles. The problem is you can hear them a mile away as if they were just a few feet away. Same thing with dropships, I hear it like it's hovering right above my head but it's nowhere in the sky to be seen. Support Orbital Spawns
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster 604	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:41:00 - [19] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Sev Alcatraz wrote: "oh im just gunna defend this objective....uncloak noise -BLAM! BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!-- AHHHHHHHH!!!" precursor in a nut shell Don't think a cloaked tank will be able to do that, unless the cloak includes a sound suppressor of the engine noise. As infantry you should be able to hear a tank "sneak up" on you. A cloaked tank will probably only be useful against other vehicles. The problem is you can hear them a mile away as if they were just a few feet away. Same thing with dropships, I hear it like it's hovering right above my head but it's nowhere in the sky to be seen. Clearly you were not around for cloaking tanks...>_> closed beta Vet >In a man to man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine. Erwin Rommel
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2572	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:41:00 - [20] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: How long do you think it'll be before the return of blackops tanks? You know they're coming, this time buffed. Well, it's pretty bad that STD tanks are so hard to kill. I really hope they do rebalance Vehicle/AV before implementing ADV and PRO tanks, because the situation on certain maps (read the bridge domination) is unsustainable. Reading here on the forums there are plenty of good suggestion and feedbacks tho... Properly balancing av from std-pro would require the removal of adv and pro since the tanks we are fighting are actually standard issue tanks. For the Federation!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 625	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:30:00 - [21] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: Burst damage with team work can blow any vehicle in seconds and players only require time to start coordinating. Although, I would like to see ADV and PRO tanks I doubt CCP will be delivering more vehicles to this game any time soon (at least in 1 or 2 years)... they are SLOW Not only that but the fact that players complain so much , why open up another can of worms ??? Who like's to get told what to do at and on their job by outsiders ??? How many insult's can one person take ??? Why have the forums flooded by complaint's ??? There's enough of that already . People just don't understand how they cripple the game with all the extra and added bull . This game is screwed because of the community and their impatient attitude . Bugs don't get fixed , new content get's implemented in a rush which adds bugs , forums are flooded by complaints so CCP tries to use that to balance the game but how can you do that with negative input ??? This community is it's own poison . Drink up people ... I see the signs on the wall and I poured mines out while you weren't looking . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 625	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:41:00 - [22] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Also, when I talk about HP I mean pre-1.7 levels. 5200 EHP without any kind of modules is just silly. Are you saying silly like bad or good ??? A maddy is 5000 without any mods and a Gunner is almost 4000 . They better be beefy for the price and the investment . If people can't handle it then they need to play another game . I'm tired of being handcuffed by the community , making this game a weak , skill less , watered down version of all the other shooters out here is just a waste of time by the DEV's or anyone who play's this game . This community is filled with , win button wanting to press , insta-death weapon wanting , no skill and strategy having babies . This crap needs to stop . This should be the toughest , most mind blowing , strategy filled and complex game out ... couple that with the fact that it is free with constant content added and CCP could ride this game into the sunset if they stop listening to the poisoners of the community . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Yoma Carrim Kinsho Swords Caldari State 430	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:34:00 - [23] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: How long do you think it'll be before the return of blackops tanks? You know they're coming, this time buffed. As long as they are actually a specialization rather than what people would call a Proto tank I really don't care. Then again I think the HAV specializations should go as fallows. - Marauder -> Stand and deliver - Enforcer -> High Damage hit and run - Black OPS-> Ambush predator - STD -> Jack of all trades master of none. Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 159	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:55:00 - [24] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Also, when I talk about HP I mean pre-1.7 levels. 5200 EHP without any kind of modules is just silly. Are you saying silly like bad or good ??? A maddy is 5000 without any mods and a Gunner is almost 4000 . They better be beefy for the price and the investment . If people can't handle it then they need to play another game . I'm tired of being handcuffed by the community , making this game a weak , skill less , watered down version of all the other shooters out here is just a waste of time by the DEV's or anyone who play's this game . This community is filled with , win button wanting to press , insta-death weapon wanting , no skill and strategy having babies . This crap needs to stop . This should be the toughest , most mind blowing , strategy filled and complex game out ... couple that with the fact that it is free with constant content added and CCP could ride this game into the sunset if they stop listening to the poisoners of the community . Youre defending broken mechanism. And what do you mean by saying about price an investition? Av costs more, sp and isks (due to number of fits needed). Also price means nothing. Tank cost 3x over 1x suit so it should be superior? No Veh spam = win button.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9691	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:05:00 - [25] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Also, when I talk about HP I mean pre-1.7 levels. 5200 EHP without any kind of modules is just silly. Are you saying silly like bad or good ??? A maddy is 5000 without any mods and a Gunner is almost 4000 . They better be beefy for the price and the investment . If people can't handle it then they need to play another game . I'm tired of being handcuffed by the community , making this game a weak , skill less , watered down version of all the other shooters out here is just a waste of time by the DEV's or anyone who play's this game . This community is filled with , win button wanting to press , insta-death weapon wanting , no skill and strategy having babies . This crap needs to stop . This should be the toughest , most mind blowing , strategy filled and complex game out ... couple that with the fact that it is free with constant content added and CCP could ride this game into the sunset if they stop listening to the poisoners of the community . Youre defending broken mechanism. And what do you mean by saying about price an investition? Av costs more, sp and isks (due to number of fits needed). Also price means nothing. Tank cost 3x over 1x suit so it should be superior? No Veh spam = win button. Debatable.....but how can I go into a match wishing to use my skilled playstyle like everyone else in the lobby..... then be told I am a tank spammer when 3 other people not even remotely related to me pull tanks too? Spam is a poor choice of words. It implies it is intentional. Whereas I tend to see greater HAV number forming as when unrelated players who are tankers call in, or to counter enemy HAV..... Broken mechanic to allow players to use their skilled playstyles? I think not....... Maps unsuited for large number of HAV to small infantry numbers and poor AV vs Vehicle balance? Yes. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
ChowMaiDong Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:09:00 - [26] - Quote You guys are talking about black op tanks. there is no Amarr Hav or Minmatar hav... lets see those first dumb thread is dumb thread
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 629	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:39:00 - [27] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Youre defending broken mechanism. And what do you mean by saying about price an investition? Av costs more, sp and isks (due to number of fits needed). Also price means nothing. Tank cost 3x over 1x suit so it should be superior? No Veh spam = win button. The whole game is broken so which mechanism are you speaking about ??? It's broken because of players who think like yourself and try to tell others how they should play in a role that you don't play because you don't like the outcome . That's more broken then anything else and leads to the constant breaking of this game threw nerfs and buffs . Players don't like how scouts are playing THEIR role so the community asks for nerfs . Logi's shouldn't be able to defend themselves in a battlefield setting so the community asks for nerfs . Heavies should not be enforcers ... they do that too good so the community asks for their role to be nerfed . I can't use a vehicle because two of the same vehicle on the battlefield is considered spam by most in the community so they asked for the vehicles to be nerfed . I mean when will it stop ??? Defend that type of thinking all you like and what you do is kill a game that was meant to challenge the mind and test one's mental make up threw battlefield simulations . What the hell do you people want ??? Oh yeah easy victories . I guess if this game had battle carriers on the open waters , they would complain because they couldn't solo it with a swarm . I mean get a life and wake up already . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5965	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:29:00 - [28] - Quote ChowMaiDong wrote: You guys are talking about black op tanks. there is no Amarr Hav or Minmatar hav... lets see those first dumb thread is dumb thread Why so serious, just a joke thread, at least these have existed in the past anyway lol. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1248	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:20:00 - [29] - Quote I still want a logi tank/ MAV, no large turret. Vehicle/infantry repper, mobile cru, mobile supply depo. A brick wall infantry can move and hide behind. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 159	Posted - 2014.04.24 13:25:00 - [30] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Youre defending broken mechanism. And what do you mean by saying about price an investition? Av costs more, sp and isks (due to number of fits needed). Also price means nothing. Tank cost 3x over 1x suit so it should be superior? No Veh spam = win button. The whole game is broken so which mechanism are you speaking about ??? It's broken because of players who think like yourself and try to tell others how they should play in a role that you don't play because you don't like the outcome . That's more broken then anything else and leads to the constant breaking of this game threw nerfs and buffs . Players don't like how scouts are playing THEIR role so the community asks for nerfs . Logi's shouldn't be able to defend themselves in a battlefield setting so the community asks for nerfs . Heavies should not be enforcers ... they do that too good so the community asks for their role to be nerfed . I can't use a vehicle because two of the same vehicle on the battlefield is considered spam by most in the community so they asked for the vehicles to be nerfed . I mean when will it stop ??? Defend that type of thinking all you like and what you do is kill a game that was meant to challenge the mind and test one's mental make up threw battlefield simulations . What the hell do you people want ??? Oh yeah easy victories . I guess if this game had battle carriers on the open waters , they would complain because they couldn't solo it with a swarm . I mean get a life and wake up already . Yes but we need people like you.. who want this game to be easy buttons win. Like tanked invisible gal scouts (in terms of scan), tanks ruining games (i can empty fg clip, yet tank just rep and kill)

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