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BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:18:00 - [1] - Quote This is with 3 proto damage mods, proficiency 5 and rapid reload 5. I'm pretty sure it would blow up from being unmanned before you were able to blow it up with the swarms. Oh and this is with the tank just sitting there; taking no evasive action what so ever. Damages 1710.6 base / 1881.66 armor/ 1539.54 shield Time 1.05 sec lock/ 1.1 sec flight time/ 3.825 sec reload Tank 1200 shield/ 4000 armor/ 5200 ehp/ 512.5 rps 1st -1200 shield/ -373.494 armor (3626.506) +373.494 armor (4000) 2nd -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 3rd -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +2661.445 armor (4000) 4th -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 5th -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +1101.875 armor (2440.43) 6th -1881.66 armor (558.77) +3062.1875 armor (3620.9575) 7th -1881.66 armor (1739.2975) +1101.875 armor (2841.1726) 8th -1881.66 armor(959.5125) +1101.875 (2061.3875) 9th -1881.66 (179.7275) +3062.1875 armor(3241.915) 10th -1881.66 armor (1360.255) +1101.875 armor (2462.13) 11th -1881.66 armor (580.47) +1101.875 armor (1682.345) 12th -1881.66 armor (-199.315) Boom. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:26:00 - [2] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Forgot to add nanohive or supply depot needed, since you would've run out of ammo half way through. With level 5 ammo capacity you get 3/11. Tho that info I would say is irrelevant . and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:32:00 - [3] - Quote lol on a brighter note; You could farm a **** ton of "Madrugger damage". and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:39:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: BIind Shot wrote: This is with 3 proto damage mods, proficiency 5 and rapid reload 5. I'm pretty sure it would blow up from being unmanned before you were able to blow it up with the swarms. Oh and this is with the tank just sitting there; taking no evasive action what so ever. Damages 1710.6 base / 1881.66 armor/ 1539.54 shield Time 1.05 sec lock/ 1.1 sec flight time/ 3.825 sec reload Tank 1200 shield/ 4000 armor/ 5200 ehp/ 512.5 rps 1st -1200 shield/ -373.494 armor (3626.506) +373.494 armor (4000) 2nd -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 3rd -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +2661.445 armor (4000) 4th -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 5th -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +1101.875 armor (2440.43) 6th -1881.66 armor (558.77) +3062.1875 armor (3620.9575) 7th -1881.66 armor (1739.2975) +1101.875 armor (2841.1726) 8th -1881.66 armor(959.5125) +1101.875 (2061.3875) 9th -1881.66 (179.7275) +3062.1875 armor(3241.915) 10th -1881.66 armor (1360.255) +1101.875 armor (2462.13) 11th -1881.66 armor (580.47) +1101.875 armor (1682.345) 12th -1881.66 armor (-199.315) Boom. My triple-rep Maddy at around 400 hp/s will die to a single magazine of Wyrkomi Swarms. That is if I don't hit my speed mod and hurtle away, while my armor reps back to full in less than ten seconds. Is that with 3 proto heavy reps? Because protofits puts it at 512.5 reps per second. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:48:00 - [5] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: BIind Shot wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: BIind Shot wrote: This is with 3 proto damage mods, proficiency 5 and rapid reload 5. I'm pretty sure it would blow up from being unmanned before you were able to blow it up with the swarms. Oh and this is with the tank just sitting there; taking no evasive action what so ever. Damages 1710.6 base / 1881.66 armor/ 1539.54 shield Time 1.05 sec lock/ 1.1 sec flight time/ 3.825 sec reload Tank 1200 shield/ 4000 armor/ 5200 ehp/ 512.5 rps 1st -1200 shield/ -373.494 armor (3626.506) +373.494 armor (4000) 2nd -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 3rd -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +2661.445 armor (4000) 4th -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 5th -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +1101.875 armor (2440.43) 6th -1881.66 armor (558.77) +3062.1875 armor (3620.9575) 7th -1881.66 armor (1739.2975) +1101.875 armor (2841.1726) 8th -1881.66 armor(959.5125) +1101.875 (2061.3875) 9th -1881.66 (179.7275) +3062.1875 armor(3241.915) 10th -1881.66 armor (1360.255) +1101.875 armor (2462.13) 11th -1881.66 armor (580.47) +1101.875 armor (1682.345) 12th -1881.66 armor (-199.315) Boom. My triple-rep Maddy at around 400 hp/s will die to a single magazine of Wyrkomi Swarms. That is if I don't hit my speed mod and hurtle away, while my armor reps back to full in less than ten seconds. Is that with 3 proto heavy reps? Because protofits puts it at 512.5 reps per second. The absolute max you can fit is 2 proto heavy reps and 1 enhanced (he mentioned nitrous) and that required STD blaster with Blaster Fitting Opt lv5. Not really worth it tbh. His fit is most likely 3 enhanced. Ya edited my post right before you posted. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:50:00 - [6] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: BIind Shot wrote: This is with 3 proto damage mods, proficiency 5 and rapid reload 5. I'm pretty sure it would blow up from being unmanned before you were able to blow it up with the swarms. Oh and this is with the tank just sitting there; taking no evasive action what so ever. Damages 1710.6 base / 1881.66 armor/ 1539.54 shield Time 1.05 sec lock/ 1.1 sec flight time/ 3.825 sec reload Tank 1200 shield/ 4000 armor/ 5200 ehp/ 512.5 rps 1st -1200 shield/ -373.494 armor (3626.506) +373.494 armor (4000) 2nd -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 3rd -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +2661.445 armor (4000) 4th -1881.66 armor (2118.34) +1101.875 armor (3220.215) 5th -1881.66 armor (1338.555) +1101.875 armor (2440.43) 6th -1881.66 armor (558.77) +3062.1875 armor (3620.9575) 7th -1881.66 armor (1739.2975) +1101.875 armor (2841.1726) 8th -1881.66 armor(959.5125) +1101.875 (2061.3875) 9th -1881.66 (179.7275) +3062.1875 armor(3241.915) 10th -1881.66 armor (1360.255) +1101.875 armor (2462.13) 11th -1881.66 armor (580.47) +1101.875 armor (1682.345) 12th -1881.66 armor (-199.315) Boom. My triple-rep Maddy at around 400 hp/s will die to a single magazine of Wyrkomi Swarms. That is if I don't hit my speed mod and hurtle away, while my armor reps back to full in less than ten seconds. This is with 2 complex heavy reps 1 enhanced and a basic blaster. It's hard to tell what is what on protofits. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 105	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:14:00 - [7] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Inb4 - Just get a tank and - I solo tanks all the time get gud scrub Huh? Not sure if english isn't your first language or you're just terrible at speaking troll. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 107	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:34:00 - [8] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Fixed Sorry. I didn't understand what Inb4 meant. Googled it. I didn't mean to be so defensive. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 108	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:44:00 - [9] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: BIind Shot wrote: With level 5 ammo capacity you get 3/11. Tho that info I would say is irrelevant . Negative Ghostrider. SL Max ammo is 6, magazine + reserve. You max out at 11 not 14 rounds You're still at least one short with Ammo V. Say the SL is sitting at a Nanohive/Supply Depot. According to what's posted this encouter is ~34s, at least two shield ticks come in(15s delay, shield regen 0) and that's 230.4 ehp that makes it survive that 12th shot. The SL then has to reload, +3k hp for the tank. I'm pretty sure that isn't irrelevant. I believe the delay refreshes every time you break a damage threshold. So if you launch a volley within 15 seconds of shield depletion, It won't regenerate; Of course I could be wrong. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 108	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:53:00 - [10] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: BIind Shot wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: BIind Shot wrote: With level 5 ammo capacity you get 3/11. Tho that info I would say is irrelevant . Negative Ghostrider. SL Max ammo is 6, magazine + reserve. You max out at 11 not 14 rounds You're still at least one short with Ammo V. Say the SL is sitting at a Nanohive/Supply Depot. According to what's posted this encouter is ~34s, at least two shield ticks come in(15s delay, shield regen 0) and that's 230.4 ehp that makes it survive that 12th shot. The SL then has to reload, +3k hp for the tank. I'm pretty sure that isn't irrelevant. I believe the delay refreshes every time you break a damage threshold. So if you launch a volley within 15 seconds of shield depletion, It won't regenerate; Of course I could be wrong. Threshold stops regen but not the timer. I'll assume you know more about it than I do. My argument for the thread is that swarms need to be buffed and I believe it holds true even more now. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".

BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 110	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:14:00 - [11] - Quote Harpyja wrote: sigh People seem to keep failing at realizing the broader picture. A repping tank has a few really powerful strengths, but in exchange has some glaring weaknesses. Why do you guys insist so much to not adapting? A proto assault forge gun with maxed skills will kill a repping Maddy with max skills in one clip. You guys present one set of information and demand buffs/nerfs without looking at the overall picture. It's like saying that my shotgun can't kill beyond 10 meters so it obviously needs buffing. Use it for what it's intended for. Don't use it for something it's not meant to be used for, then cry for buffs/nerfs. Obviously swarms are not good against triple rep Maddies. So go find something that they are good for. I hear dropship pilots hate swarms. lol ya dropships absolutely get eaten alive by swarms; with there 45% passive damage reduction to swarms. The thing is swarms can barley blow up anything. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 111	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:25:00 - [12] - Quote Just had a new idea. Give swarms a DOT effect. If nothing else come out with another AV weapon that does this. Thermite is known to burn through anything.. just a thought. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 113	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:53:00 - [13] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Now I feel bad that I was the 3rd person to say it. I should read before posting. Oh yeah with my 2.8 something life time KD and I run a 5 weekly and monthly.. On a min scout. with 430 ehp.. You're so right. I just need to get good and pray to satan for some skills. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 113	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:07:00 - [14] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Now I feel bad that I was the 3rd person to say it. I should read before posting. Who the **** are you anyway kid? With your 0.36 life time, 0.33 monthly and your 0.38 weekly. You should post on your main. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".

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