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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:16:00 -
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I never play ambush, I won't ever play it if I can help it, and prefer to only play in FW where we get some good challengers. I sit on a 2.54 currently that grows whenever I play.... I just don't play very much now.
Personally I think a long term "good tankers" should have about a 3.0 KDR.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:05:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Obviously there are not enough threads about tanks or protostomping so I thought I would rectify that.
When discussing balance there is no single metric that can encompass all the variables but kdr is probably the best one to compare. So what do you think the AVERAGE tanker kdr should be? Why? What do you think it is right now? I cant see how you put an avg KDR on tankers and balance them from that ideal.... really tankers should get it as good as they are at tanking, I don't even think you really need to touch tanks, what we need is better av, more balanced av.... and cloaks on jihadi jeeps.
This thread has nothing to do with balance....its just a person asking TANKERS what they feel their KDR's should be to qualify as a "good tankers".
Mine is 0.5 higher than my own, objectively speaking if a tanker can't kill at least 3 people for a single life, the same values I place on my Commando, then they aren't doing the best they can.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:07:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:CCP are game simulators. See EVE for details. Its amazing real science and math simulating space,
Dust is a version of that. Lets not get hung up there. But themed with EVE is similar and hopeful soon joined.
My point. In real life if a army had a tank there was clear unstoppable power. The other army had to deploy specialized tactics or deploy a tank... Before this horses on the battle field played the same unstoppable power.
I don't use tanks, but if they get 40-0 and you QQ ... Bad on you. If you hate it so much specialise to blow them up - the gratification will be 10 fold fueled by revenge. A good attitude to have, to be sure. But Eve and Dust both have strong elements of team play involved. In Eve a well built fleet is superior in every way to a solo player. In Dust, a well equipped squad working together will dominate against randomns. Tanks require 1 operator and usually don't equip small turrets. It is also not uncommon to witness a squad raining down "specialized retaliation" against a tank and they get away before being destroyed.
To many benefits for players who put emphasis on fitting their HAV selfishly and not enough for those who choose to do it otherwise.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:11:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Balanced would be 1.
Av should blow up tanks and tanks should kill infantry. the whole a good tanker can survive thing is bs. Tankers can kill avers infantry can't kill tanks like they used to. Meaning tanks need to be as vulnerable to av as infantry is to vehicles now
Balance is 1:1:1
Debateable.
A Good infantry man can kill 2-3 clones of every one they loose. Some who are very skilful and lucky never die.
Why is it unfair that I can kill 2-3 for every vehicle I loose, and if I player well and carefully I never die?
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:41:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Does it matter my lifetime is 2.04 or so slowly rising I cared about K/D when it was Sh!tty (I still remember dat mail Adamance) but now meh. My weekly hovers around 6 Monthly hovers 5 if I purely ambush stomped I could achieve about 10-11 weekly with relative ease. K/D means nothing just because Duna's K/D is 17 times mine doesn't mean I won't beat him 5/4 times
Mail?
Oh did I send hatemail? oh show me, please show me..... I love hatemail....kind of wish I could see into Pyrex's inbox.
How long ago was it? Pre 1.6 when I thought I was good or in 1.7 when tanking was so easy I couldn't possibly have been good.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.24 03:17:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:True Adamance wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Does it matter my lifetime is 2.04 or so slowly rising I cared about K/D when it was Sh!tty (I still remember dat mail Adamance) but now meh. My weekly hovers around 6 Monthly hovers 5 if I purely ambush stomped I could achieve about 10-11 weekly with relative ease. K/D means nothing just because Duna's K/D is 17 times mine doesn't mean I won't beat him 5/4 times Mail? Oh did I send hatemail? oh show me, please show me..... I love hatemail....kind of wish I could see into Pyrex's inbox. How long ago was it? Pre 1.6 when I thought I was good or in 1.7 when tanking was so easy I couldn't possibly have been good. post 1.6 wasn't techniquely hate mail and I suppose you were probably right.
Damnit.... I'll send you some hate mail this evening and you can bring it up in 6 months.
Also what did I say? Was it an "I beat you once so am better", "you're a proto stomping douche", or something else?
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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