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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7114
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:18:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:
They used to be tactical in beta and kind of special but now any vet squad can easily rinse the sht out of newbs with 6 OBS and sometimes more. Its just cheap now.
That's because there wasn't as many ways to earn WP back then, most noticeably from Repair Tools.
I remember when I saw my first OB. I was like "Whoa! What heck is that?". Now it's just "Welp, another Orbital." Heck, the OB's even looked better in Chrome.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7115
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:21:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:
He's playing as a Gallente purist.
"Let's try to solve these problems democratically..."
Well it's a good thing he's not playing as an Amarr purist.
Otherwise he'd have to walk everywhere at 3m/s and stop to praise a Totem Pole everytime they got a kill.
HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3774
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:24:00 -
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I get ~2000 per match running Heavies.
How anyone that is "forum smart" can't do at least 1500 is a mystery. Especially guys with multiple equipment slots.
It's been 2500 since we had 4 man squads and 20 fewer ways to earn WP.
It's time to update this **** mechanic to fit in with today's standards.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Rusty Shallows
1626
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:06:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:It needs to be removed all together.
That is something that belongs in PC, to further the EVE/Dust connection with orbitals from ships.
It has no place in public game modes. It's far too easily abused, and can completely make a good competitive match become lopsided or downright frustrating.
I don't know how many times my team was about to win through objectives, then gets cloned for the loss by the one dude who saved his orbital just for that occasion.
It was the farming abuse that got WP-repping nerf in Closed Beta. So naturally CCP punished people playing Logis rather than directly deal with the problem.
As far as I am concerned there should never be free battlefield assets. That includes Warbarge strikes and all structures (yellow & blue). Hack Points being the exception of course.
If people want Orbitals then require an Eve Capseleer, if they want turrets then pay ISK and drop them during battle in a proper player controlled OMS fashion. There may be places for hand-holding by CCP, these are not among them.
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Roy Xkillerz
Red Star.
EoN.
29
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Posted - 2014.04.23 07:13:00 -
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Let me put it this way this is all a temporary mechanic. There will still by a med and a large and a capital one. In the far future only eve ships can give that in me thinking. Maybe they hold the small one in pubs. But overall the end result off this will change.
If you then want to spam it? Well get the eve ships or have no orbital support at all. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.23 07:23:00 -
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There are now far more ways to earn WPs than before, so naturally to keep things in check, the orbital threshold should've been increased. This has been said before (sorry, no source)
Add to this that it's so easy to farm WPs, exacerbating the problem.
The idea of an incremental WP threshold increase per squad is a good one. You could extend this idea to increase the threshold for the whole team if you wanted. I also think the 2500 WP threshold should increase, and whilst there are far bigger fish to fry right now, CCP could address some of the farming mechanics too.
So many matches these days everyone saves their OBs and drops them all at the end of the match....this means either they're redundant, or there are way more available than required.
My two-penneth
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
202
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Posted - 2014.04.23 07:45:00 -
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Dude do you just look for things to change daily? This is an old topic that we shouldn't revisit again, for the 5th time. Let it go bro.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Aderek
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
78
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Posted - 2014.04.23 07:50:00 -
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System of WP is ok in, because we use it to learn in public matches. In Pc we need Eve pilots and it is good.
So, learn and go to Fw or PC battles ;) |
Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
165
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Posted - 2014.04.23 09:35:00 -
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I agree (provided the current system stays in place) that the wp requirement should be increased to compensate for bigger squads and more wp revenues.
I also like the idea of increased wp requirement per strike, but it should be by squad and not team.
(It would not be fair to good teams that are slightly behind better teams in regards to wp)
One further idea that loped into my head just now (don't know if it is good or bad yet)
- what if you actually had to "pay" wp to get a OB? (I.e you drain wp evenly from every squad member)
That way there is no incentive to spam OBs, since that will considerably reduce your ISK return after battle... |
TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
3116
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Posted - 2014.04.23 09:36:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Dude do you just look for things to change daily? This is an old topic that we shouldn't revisit again, for the 5th time. Let it go bro.
If you knew anything then you'd know that around the 100th times a charm. In dust so far, anything that's bitched about enough gets implemented/broken lol.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
596
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Posted - 2014.04.23 09:48:00 -
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i always thought it should be based on amount of people in the squad but i admit they can be easy to get if you have a full squad. other evenign i had my heavy alt out with 5 logis behind it and we almost had 6 WB strikes in an 80 clone ambush 
Rolling with the punches
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1902
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Posted - 2014.04.23 09:56:00 -
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So, 2500 with 4 man squad were 2500/4=625WP
625*6=3750WP but i dont like strange numbers and also there are more WP rewards than in chromo
I would say:
750*6=4500WP
Seems good.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
\o/ summon me
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1340
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Posted - 2014.04.23 11:05:00 -
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I think we should go one step further => warbarges are too easy to get for the WINNING team.
you are already kicking your enemies asses and to add insult drop 6 strikes on faces.
Dust is about winning AND efficiency. if you are already winning hard a sane commander would not just waste his warbarge strikes left and right just because he can, he would save them for counter attacks.
the loosing team on the other hand would be more likely to desperately throw out some warbarge strikes to push forward.
imho there should be:
1. diminishing returns for warbarge strikes, that means each new one requires more WP to get
2. a penalty system should be in place. the harder you are winning (which can be calculated with clone count and warbarge HP) the more expensive a warbarge strike gets. |
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