DUST Search - Warbarge strikes are too easy to get

Atiim wrote:

I have a better idea.

First, increase the WP required for a Warbarge Strike. These things should be used as "game changers" as opposed to a win button used to exacerbate stomping. The requirements for one are 2500WP simply because squads used to only have 4 people, and there weren't nearly as many ways to earn WP as we have now.

I do agree with removing the ability to gain WP earned from the Warbarge. The average strike gets about 10 kills, which leads to about 500WP. If you have the squad members repair the leader that squad can earn up to 2250WP from the Guardian action, and when you have everyone scan the area before dropping the Warbarge, the squad can earn 750WP from Intel Kill Assists.

That alone is 3575WP, which can grant a squad yet another Warbarge Strike and still leave them with a spare 1075WP (that's half of the WP required for another Warbarge Strike mind you).

However, I do believe there should be a small reward for using the Warbarge Strike, as you are contributing to the team by using one. I think 100-150WP for Warbarge Deployment would seem fair.

Atiim wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

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I'd say 7200 WP would be the best.

That way every member of the squad would have to make at least 1200 WP to get one.

My 0.02 ISK on Warbarge Strikes.


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Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 768	Posted - 2014.04.22 21:46:00 - [1] - Quote It needs to be removed all together. That is something that belongs in PC, to further the EVE/Dust connection with orbitals from ships. It has no place in public game modes. It's far too easily abused, and can completely make a good competitive match become lopsided or downright frustrating. I don't know how many times my team was about to win through objectives, then gets cloned for the loss by the one dude who saved his orbital just for that occasion.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 771	Posted - 2014.04.22 21:50:00 - [2] - Quote If not removed, then limit it to one WB strike per squad per game. If you have to use something that powerful, you should have to make it count.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 771	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:07:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: Atiim wrote: I have a better idea. First, increase the WP required for a Warbarge Strike. These things should be used as "game changers" as opposed to a win button used to exacerbate stomping. The requirements for one are 2500WP simply because squads used to only have 4 people, and there weren't nearly as many ways to earn WP as we have now. I do agree with removing the ability to gain WP earned from the Warbarge. The average strike gets about 10 kills, which leads to about 500WP. If you have the squad members repair the leader that squad can earn up to 2250WP from the Guardian action, and when you have everyone scan the area before dropping the Warbarge, the squad can earn 750WP from Intel Kill Assists. That alone is 3575WP, which can grant a squad yet another Warbarge Strike and still leave them with a spare 1075WP (that's half of the WP required for another Warbarge Strike mind you). However, I do believe there should be a small reward for using the Warbarge Strike, as you are contributing to the team by using one. I think 100-150WP for Warbarge Deployment would seem fair. Atiim wrote: Awry Barux wrote: [...] I'd say 7200 WP would be the best. That way every member of the squad would have to make at least 1200 WP to get one. My 0.02 ISK on Warbarge Strikes. The only real problem i have with WB strikes are the ones who buffer that **. A squad can get 2 HAV's put two turrets each for infantry, and just go HAV hunting together to gain MASSIVE assist and blue doughnut points. Even before vehicles receiving WPs from damage this was an effective method. If a single squad can throw out 4 OB's in an ambush, its just flat out ******.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 771	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:15:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Most squads can't pull 1200 per person; that puts it waaaaay out of reach of anyone except good squads, most of whom actually don't need them. I regularly run in squads with me and two other guys comfortably breaking 1500-2k per match, with the other three getting sub-1k. Six guys not schooled in the fine art of WP-whoring would never be able to achieve those scores. ZDub's system is best IMO. WTH are you playing as? I've yet to find a role that doesn't let a member push 1200WP at the very least. He's playing as a Gallente purist. "Let's try to solve these problems democratically..."