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Rygharr Sturmeister
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:28:00 -
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Just speaking from my own experience here:
Cat Merc wrote: . . . taking one down feels like a chore, there is no "Fun" in fighting a heavy . . .
Taking one down should be a chore, just like constantly turning around every 5 seconds to make sure a cloaked scout is not sneaking up on you is a chore (I have no complaints about scouts by the way.)
Cat Merc wrote:Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them
Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots
Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
RE's - I usually run a standard Caldari Sentinel with two shield rechargers in a high slots, but even with two complex shield extenders I've never survived a remote explosive. Does anyone know how many extenders are needed to tank an RE?
Shotguns - How many heavies have you come across that can tank 5 shotgun rounds at optimum range? I have CalSent skilled to 5 for 15% resistance to shotguns and I still go down in 3 rounds.
Nova Knives - I don't understand why you're laughing. From first hand experience, I know a Minmatar scout with charged NK's can one shot my suit. Other suits can finish me off with a regular slash.
Cat Merc wrote:I can sit 30 meters out and flank the heavy, and he can still turn around and blap me after I unloaded 1/3rd of my clip into him.
Some heavies I literally can't take out with a full clip.
I have prof V and I still can't take them out with a full clip.
That's insane.
Cat Merc wrote:I find myself reloading all the time before I can bring them down to 1/5th armor.
What are you using? If I'm not careful, I get eaten by ADV CR's while waddling across the street.
At 30 meters, the TTK of a HMG is around 2 seconds against most medium suits. Slowdown effect notwithstanding, this is more than enough time to get back in cover and reposition. I ran dual Magsecs (skilled only to Operations 1) during the sidearm event and with 2 enhanced damage mods I was able to take down most heavies without having to reload or swap.
I do agree the slowdown effect should be removed; if a player is fast enough to react to being shot he should have the opportunity to get to cover.
The HMG Sentinel's durability and close-in DPS are requisite to its purpose as a short range brawler. It's literally the only thing it's good at.
If a nerf is necessary for the heavy, reduce its sprint speed. This will narrow the useful envelope of the suit without harming what it's supposed to be good at while it's in that envelope.
And if an HP nerf really is necessary, I suggest that it be done on a per race basis instead of a flat % across the board. Also, perhaps a reduction in HP of non-primary tank coupled with a smaller HP gain in primary tank (example: +100 to shields and - 200 to armor for the Caldari Sentinel) would help make using -- and fighting -- the different racial suits more interesting. |
Rygharr Sturmeister
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.22 21:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
It trumps all classes at all situations.
Every single one.
So if your team is getting tank stomped in Ambush and you need to run away so you can drop uplinks in a safe location it trumps the cloaked scout?
So if your squad is assaulting an objective and you need to relay enemy positions to them it trumps the Gal Logi or Cal Scout?
So if you or your team are in need of ammo and a supply depot is nowhere to be found it trumps any other suit that actually has an equipment slot? |
Rygharr Sturmeister
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.22 21:27:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Then what is your take on the hmg range? Not a single person responded when I said it's too much.. So clearly even the heavy users agree, they just don't want it to be fixed. I'm not saying a big nerf but you shouldn't be competing at 40-60m.. And yes this does happen and yes it's still an insta kill.. Though it could be some type of glitch I wouldn't be surprised but idk.
There is no way an HMG can compete at with a light weapon 40-60 meters. The natural spread of the gun would cause the majority of your bullets to miss.
I am a full time HMG user, and i can tell you that even scouts and starter fits do not die instantly to an MH-82 at 40 meters. Anything past 30, and you see an exponential increase in TTK for the HMG. Even at 30 it takes me around 2 seconds to take out most medium suits, which is sometimes more time than it takes some rifles to kill me in my standard Caldari Sentinel. We can test this on video if you wish.
If I have the luxury of finding an enemy unaware of my presence and that enemy is past 30-35 meters, I switch to my Magsec. |
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