At this point, a repper is better than a hardener. Why give up a slot for 25% more resistance when you can DOUBLE your rep rate?

Hardeners were viable when they gave 40%. Then you had to choose from either doubling your rep rate or almost doubling your EHP.

Edit: you can also say that two reppers will undoubtedly let your recover from swarms much more quickly than a single rep. Whereas with a single rep you'd be forced to eventually retreat, with double reps you'd almost never have to retreat to a single swarm.

What we need is more modules and more slots to fit them. With these modules and slots and a nerf to reppers will only result in everyone using Armor Hardener, Armor Plate and Armor Repair module, zero variety.

"What's that guy using?" - "Armor Plate, Hardener and Repper."
"Ok, so what's that guy over there using then?" - "Armor Plate, Hardener and Repper."
"Fine, what are you using?" - "Armor Plate, Hardener and Repper."
"Erm... and your friend?" - "Armor Plate, Hardener and Repper."
"Hmm.. what should I use?" - "Armor Plate, Hardener and Repper."

Get it?

Well, uh... how should I put this? Heavy with 5 lows? Really? Not in this game. Heavies that are using 4 plates are expecting to get help from a logi player. Vehicles don't have logi roles anymore, sadly. I do admit that heavies don't have a lot of choises either, plates or reps. More variety is what this game needs in a lot of areas, but hey, at least infantry didn't get most of their modules removed at any point in the game.

Hmm... In a tank I try to bring the victory to my team almost always, even in pubs. And do you have any idea how much going all out for the win means to tankers? I don't think you do, it means losing millions of ISK in a pub match. When you bring down more ISK than that into a pub match as infantry, then you can complain that we are not doing anything and everything for the win.

No, it's not. Though I don't see what you have against stacking modules. You didn't see AVers complaining about how the only viable fit involved stacking 3x Complex Damage Modifiers did you?

Here's another fitting. It's teamwork oriented, but it doesn't involve stacking modules of any kind.

This is just not true .

I run heavy and use vehicles .

I run heavy because I had that sig since they announced the suit drop and just enjoy the support factor . I would have been a medi-logi but with the changes , Caldari logi's would not be best suited for that role and now the SP's that I have in injectors and rep tools are useless because of a racial bonus that compartmentalized the functions of each races logi .

I use tanks , again because I like the support factor .

Tankers don't see tanks as a win button like I see most in the community imply . That's just a bad attitude and I really don't see tankers give negative input on the role's of others , actually I see them defending the role's of others .. while they get screwed by these same players that they speak up for .

If you drove during 1.6 you would know that tankers don't mind dying as long as they can insure that they can support their squad and help to bring about a win . During 1.6 , tanks were borderline underpowered slash almost in a right place and now most believe that they are overpowered . I feel that they are almost in a good spot because CCP didn't have to break them down the way that they did but that wasn't for me to decide .

Swarms are getting better and FG's are nice . The Plasma Cannon isn't that useful .

Can't really say much because I just don't want to get drawn into the tit for tat argument that most indulge themselves in .

If they can't and don't get it their way then they don't want you to either and that gets nothing positive done .

Everyone knows that extra HP's doesn't mean that you will come out on top but it's how you play the game and the role .

^Terribad didn't bother to check if it's a troll your lack of understanding of tanks must be the reason your so butt hurt about them.

Monkey I don't think appreciates what Tankers attempt to do for the team.

Personally I don't care about kills, WP, or Deaths. Just about the win. But as people often say to me.

"True how can you be helping us win if all you are doing is killing ****?"

Which is why I don't do that. I provide my squad and crew mates, yes I often have crew, with a platform from which to deploy and be supported from. This means I don't get 3x Reppers or hardners. It does however mean I get gunners.

Most players see tanks and kill farming machines, and yes you can kill farm with them, but that doesn't stop them being a valuable and tactical asset in the field.

What I currently dislike is to see tanks being abused under casualist mechanics and poor AV balance.

I said no stacking because whenever we stack any modules the AV community cries OP and unfair.

Often times the only way to deal with those deep-in-the-redline cowards is to go out there and kill yourself and hopefully take them with you. If I don't go out there, they will just stay there pounding our team safely from the distance with no risk and all reward.
So you think I'm stupid because I take care of the guy that is hated by the whole community? I may be stupid, yes, but I do it out of willingness to try to help. But yes, I'm stupid, if I was smart, I would only play for my own enjoyment, not anyone else's.

When you are using AV, you cannot expect to go take the HAV head on, you gotta use the environment as your cover. And I was in a match yesterday where there was ADV minmando pounding my friend's triple rep Maddy (I don't use triple rep myself) with swarms and he made the observation that if that minmando would ever get 5 volleys off, it would kill him, but fortunately that minmando was stupid enough to stay out in the open every single time, so he was dead before he could fire 5 times. If he had taken elevated position, he could have easily gotten 5 shots off if my friend would have remained within his range. So if you engage the HAV where it is at it's strongest, you are expected to lose. Engage it where the HAV is at it's weakest and you will come out on top almost every time.