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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:01:00 -
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Forge gun:
300m range
Very fast projectile
Projectile moves forward directly
1500 damage for assault, 2100 for breach
Plasma Cannon:
40m~ effective range (Sniping vehicles beyond that point is a matter of luck, no matter how good your aim, because the projectile is slow)
Very slow projectile
Arc
1150 damage
The overall fire rate of the PLC and Breach is very similar, because while the breach has charge up time, the PLC has to reload after each shot, and there's the long delay after shooting that adds 2~ seconds before you can even start reloading.
I'm sorry but that's just bullshit.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:15:00 -
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CCP wrote: Game Design has considered this, but weGÇÖre not getting many resources for new code/features so damage over time is not going to happen any time soon. We canGÇÖt see any way to easily improve the Plasma Cannon against vehicles (its intended role) without making it OP against infantry, Game Design will address issues with the Plasma Cannon in the future.
- Never forget
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:53:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP wrote: Game Design has considered this, but weGÇÖre not getting many resources for new code/features so damage over time is not going to happen any time soon. We canGÇÖt see any way to easily improve the Plasma Cannon against vehicles (its intended role) without making it OP against infantry, Game Design will address issues with the Plasma Cannon in the future. - Never forget Didn't we have a burn effect on vehicles? Couldn't they have reworked that somehow to become active upon PLC damage to a vehicle?
The burn effect works whenever a vehicle gets below an HP threshold, and doesn't stop until the vehicle gets above that threshold.
What we want is a weapon applying that effect, and it lasting an X amount of time.
I'm guessing that their code currently doesn't allow for the second one.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8816
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:03:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:I still say it would be fine if it worked ALL the time. That said hopefully those variants found floating around the EVE server can add a bit more versatility to this weapon class.
I can't wait to play Dust today and see if the hotfix for the forge/skill bug has cleared up some of the issues with my beloved PLC. It seems like it is a general fix Roofer. <[CCP]Frame>: We found a single issue related to both 80% spawning and Forge Gun misfire <[CCP]Frame>: Was very strange one. I submitted a bug report regarding the misfire of the plasma cannon 12.06.2013 I will be very disappoint if that is the case. I also submitted a ticket. I really thought the skill bug was causing the PLC issues because of the charge time skill. I guess whoever complains on the forums the loudest wins and there just aren't enough people complaining about the PLC for CCP to care.
That's why I exist.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:12:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:I still say it would be fine if it worked ALL the time. That said hopefully those variants found floating around the EVE server can add a bit more versatility to this weapon class.
I can't wait to play Dust today and see if the hotfix for the forge/skill bug has cleared up some of the issues with my beloved PLC. It seems like it is a general fix Roofer. <[CCP]Frame>: We found a single issue related to both 80% spawning and Forge Gun misfire <[CCP]Frame>: Was very strange one. I submitted a bug report regarding the misfire of the plasma cannon 12.06.2013 I will be very disappoint if that is the case. I also submitted a ticket. I really thought the skill bug was causing the PLC issues because of the charge time skill. I guess whoever complains on the forums the loudest wins and there just aren't enough people complaining about the PLC for CCP to care. That's why I exist. Hey, I've started more "Fix the PLC" threads then most people. And every time they fall off the front page in favor of QQ over rifles or some other FOTM thingy. My support ticket was closed by CCP as "resolved". What a laugh.....
Well, now you have help.
Team work with QQ is necessary 
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8819
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:28:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Forge gun:
300m range
Very fast projectile
Projectile moves forward directly
1500 damage for assault, 2100 for breach
Plasma Cannon:
40m~ effective range (Sniping vehicles beyond that point is a matter of luck, no matter how good your aim, because the projectile is slow)
Very slow projectile
Arc
1150 damage
The overall fire rate of the PLC and Breach is very similar, because while the breach has charge up time, the PLC has to reload after each shot, and there's the long delay after shooting that adds 2~ seconds before you can even start reloading.
I'm sorry but that's just bullshit.
Hey now! The Forge gun shots have a travel speed too! It's just only noticeable at 200+ meters.  But yea the PLC has been too weak from the very beginning. Before they even released the gun, it looked weaker on paper. I say simply increase the travel time of the shot. Then buff the damage to be on par with a normal variant FG, and either add a second shot to the clip or cut the reload speed in half. Should make it viable. The burn effect would be nice but I doubt CCP could pull it off in under 2 years.
Another option is to give it 2100 damage and basically make it a short range breach FG.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8819
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:36:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Forge gun is the raw damage, spike AV weapon of the game and it is appropriately a heavy weapon.
I'm not against a snare effect, or a DoT effect for the PLC as that functions appropriately for duo AV.
It would also have a unique impact when sieging a point from high ground.
1800 damage, halved reload time, reduced the after shot delay to 0.3 seconds, and removed projectile drop.
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