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Heavenly Daughter
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:07:00 -
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Todays offer of
"ALL AUR WEAPONS 60% OFF"
should be ALL weapons 60% off, the people that ONLY use ISK weapons should also benefit from reduced prices , NOT JUST CASH WEAPONS.
WHICH BY THE WAY CCP - WERE MEANT TO BE AVAILABLE AS A LOWER TIER WEAPON UNTILL YOU REACH THE DESIRED SKILL LEVEL.
SO HOW COME NO ISK WEAPONS GET REDUCED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO MUCH FOR NOT BEING A PAY TO WIN GAME.
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Heavenly Daughter
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:26:00 -
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Couldn't have put that any better, nice post.
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Heavenly Daughter
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:29:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Aurum =/= ISK, so an Aurum sale is not overpowered or pay to win. As Aurum and ISK have different relative values, and are acquired in different ways, there's really no imbalance of any kind.
Aurum sales are entirely designed to encourage players to spend money that pays for DUST development, so you should really be glad people are buying. Those who buy Aurum pay for you to play the game.
AS FOR CPM, NO !
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Heavenly Daughter
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:37:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Heavenly Daughter, let me ask you then: How would you propose CCP makes money on DUST, in order to pay the developers to improve it, and to keep the servers running every day? I mean, there's some ways Aurum item options could be shifted, but there's an inherent model that someone, somewhere, has to pay for the game. And that for them to be willing to pay, it has to be a valuable enough purchase for them to feel it's worth giving CCP their credit card.
Bloody Hell, this has sod all to do with how CCP makes money or not, Only the imbalance between the AURUM getting massive discounts where non paying players do not.
Try actually reading the post by draco this time.
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Heavenly Daughter
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:08:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:CCP has stated in the past that the money generated by Dust doesn't actually even come close to covering the cost of development. It is the Eve players who are paying to produce this game so you can think about Aurum as paying devs all you want, I am sure some of the cash needed to keep the game going comes from Dust but the vast majority of it does not. I would love to have some sort of evidence of this claim. If you have anything to back this, please post it here. Draco Cerberus wrote:Having deals on Aurum items doesn't actually increase the rate at which players spend cash on the game, rather it allows them to buy more of the same assets they would purchase anyways. This in fact reduces their need to inject cash into the game and rather than increasing the cash flow for CCP more likely reduces it. Actually, a lot of people will buy more than they need when things are on sale, or be encouraged to maybe make a jump to buying Aurum stuff when they haven't before. If sales didn't increase the amount of money brought in by a company, nobody would do sales on anything.
Of course they will, just common sense to do so, After all NOT EVERYONE gets 60% discount,..!!!!!!
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:23:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:Aurum can be effectively calculated as isk in relation to the weapon values. X Proto weapon costs Y isk, X aurum proto weapon costs X2 aurum, Aurum cost then is calculate like this: Y/X2=Z isk Aurum gear is more valuable than ISK gear due to it's skill requirements.
NO NO NO. !!!!
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Heavenly Daughter
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:08:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Yes, DUST was developed with other money than Aurum stuff. (Possibly some EVE revenue, and very likely outside investors.) But since CCP's a business, and they make things under the intention of turning a profit, the long term plan is obviously that DUST's own income, from Aurum, needs to eventually make back the money they invested in developing the game. And turn a profit on top of that.
I'm not going to go back and rewatch the entire YouTube history of CCP because someone makes an unsubstantiated claim on a forum post. If you want to claim it as a fact, you should be able to reference it.
So should you noob. Edit: sorry for the intentional defamation of your character, I am sure you take plenty of time to go around and actually fact check, Hilmar clearly stated in several videos that Eve was putting the cash up to produce Dust so don't even start comparing my unreferenced statement about funding as your lack of interest in the topic go troll elsewhere
I second that, !...
Go Troll Elsewhere. or get back on topic.
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Heavenly Daughter
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:12:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I'm responding to Draco's claims. He brought the topic here.
Heavenly, I'm still waiting for you to clarify your responses, they haven't been really informative of your opinion, and I was trying to inquire for more detail.
I'm not spending my time here head banging anymore than I already have, If you don't get it yet, too bad.
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