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rpastry The Rainbow Effect 165	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:06:00 - [1] - Quote cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. [Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro]
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 536	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:15:00 - [2] - Quote run in a squad... i hear your corp runs pretty good squads.. then cover each other. skills are not being applied till 30 secs after spawn fixes before nerfs thank you.
Toby Flenderson research lab 519	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:26:00 - [3] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: run in a squad... i hear your corp runs pretty good squads.. then cover each other. Yeah I start with minmatar for the hack bonus and then keep that out until I notice scouts getting under my scans. Then I just switch to caldari and load on the precision. Easiest scout counter ever. For my entire squad.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 562	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:30:00 - [4] - Quote rpastry wrote: cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. You could use your eyes AND your thumbs to see scouts. You COULD turn around every once and a while and check behind you. I know I know, It's hard but sometimes it's all it takes. Deciphering the truth from a web of lies is far easier than you'd think. Especially if you're a bureaucrat.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1662	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:39:00 - [5] - Quote I mostly run rail teck and ewar mods on my cal scout. Now given the low alpha dammage and low rate of fire it is very important to know what direction your enemy if facing especially when you plan to flank and ambush said enemy. The tricknis to look for lone soldiers who font really have much awareness eg not looking behind themselves or displaying any situational awareness like running rtrait past me when im un cloaked . So lesson to the op get in squad and have some one watch your back or look behind you every so often. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 911	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:48:00 - [6] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: rpastry wrote: cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. You could use your eyes AND your thumbs to see scouts. You COULD turn around every once and a while and check behind you. I know I know, It's hard but sometimes it's all it takes. Yep, even if you are passively scanned just check your flank every so often. You'll see way more scouts then you think, scouts hate it when you turn around. You don't have to do it all the time, only when you are all alone hoofing it somewhere.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1994	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:12:00 - [7] - Quote rpastry wrote: cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. I agree OP. The TACNET is giving us too much information from scanning - is gameplay really improved by knowing the orientation of an enemy(tacnet) and their head height(chevron) so we can line up headshots before they step around the corner? Imo the current scanning mechanics are working against interesting gameplay and high tension situations where we're forced to make assumptions/inferences about enemy intentions. Sometimes less is more: this is one of those cases. P.S. It's not just scouts - my logi sees just about everything coming that isn't a scout. I support SP rollover.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1435	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:21:00 - [8] - Quote rpastry wrote: cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. You would still know what direction people are facing by what direction their moving.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2937	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:24:00 - [9] - Quote Because cloaked scouts are the only ones who use passive scanning? Sounds like you're trying to 'fix' the wrong thing. Maybe you should be looking at what changed to make this so strong in 1.8? Let's see... Passive scanning = no change Shotgun = actually got worse due to proficiency change Cloak = oh yeah, that's new! Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 792	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:26:00 - [10] - Quote Disagree . it's one of the things that make this game scream Sci-Fi Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy

Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1994	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:31:00 - [11] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: rpastry wrote: cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. You would still know what direction people are facing by what direction their moving. Until some cunning bastards start using that assumption as a means of misdirection/bait. Point is you'll never know for sure until you expose yourself. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1994	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:35:00 - [12] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Disagree . it's one of the things that make this game scream Sci-Fi I agree with you and the scifi setting of New Eden is important to me, but i also know that what makes for the best gameplay is when both parties have imperfect knowledge. Things get a lot mor interesting and engaging in that situation, imo. I suppose i'd be even happier with a module that fed distoted data to scanners - a lot more room for surprises there ;) I support SP rollover.
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 790	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:40:00 - [13] - Quote rpastry wrote: cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. The only problem with cloaks is that you can shoot while cloaked. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* Who else thinks I'm Famous?
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3772	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:59:00 - [14] - Quote It's a **** mechanic. Who cares what suit it is? Who cares whether or not you're in a squad? It is carebear coddling at its finest. Pandering to people who just "don't get it" is no excuse or a proper fix for lack of NPE Tutorials and PvE. Or, is it just sloppy coding like the super buff AA of a few months ago, that's accidently left at a value that allows the Devs to play like they're "gud" in QC? Remove it. You're all getting worse because it's in use. I GÖú Kittens.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 711	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:51:00 - [15] - Quote run around in a cheap scout suit. Looking behind you will become habit as one shot from a gal scout with a shotty or a short burst from a CR kills you real quick.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1134	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:52:00 - [16] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: rpastry wrote: cloaked scouts have it too easy, you can say 'use your eyes' but when scouts can passive scan which way you're looking they can easily avoid LOS and then blindside+shotgun = free kill. You could use your eyes AND your thumbs to see scouts. You COULD turn around every once and a while and check behind you. I know I know, It's hard but sometimes it's all it takes. Its too hard and op pls nerf it im sick of it I shoukd have to work at all pls nerf the ahite of of it I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears


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